Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Not an obligation we don’t want to see more of this ego war about who’s right you gave your stance on the op which is what you are asked to do.I will tell you why it is strawmanning once I am back home.
Another example of you not understanding me, I am against HDE, I have not even made a comment on the low 1-C yet. Low 1-C is a thing that will not stand I do not have to worry about it.What is an issue of addressing counter-arguments? I am with staying low 1-C and pain is against it.
if you do not have a sense of self-importance, you will not act knowledgeable in things you are notThis is normal conversation, someone who started throwing insults and having an ego is not me in this instance
Then i’m sure that you are a mature enough dude to avoid war with someone that is having an ego since it seems to be getting personal.What is an issue of addressing counter-arguments? I am with staying low 1-C and pain is against it. This is normal conversation, someone who started throwing insults and having an ego is not me in this instance
And I am with HDE, so i am pretty sure understand your opposition.Another example of you not understanding me, I am against HDE, I have not even made a comment on the low 1-C yet. Low 1-C is a thing that will not stand I do not have to worry about it.
I won't be banned as long as I am not throwing back insults and having an ego.Then i’m sure that you are a mature enough dude to avoid war with someone that is having an ego since it seems to be getting personal.
I mean a war of idea could be fun if it was without insults or attempts to discredit each others.
Please just don’t get banned
It's not blatant misinformation though. We understand that they are from a higher plane, HDE is accurate. What we currently don't have a solid grasp of is if that would give Low 1-C. We know HDE can stay because we have statements of HDE. That's literally all we need for it stay on the profiles. And I know the person whose planning the upgrade would prefer it removed, but my entire point is that we stopped giving tiers automatically to HDE a while ago, so we don't have to remove it. We have what we need for HDE to stay, and all removing it does is then make the profile further inaccurate because we literally know they have it, we have the scans for it on this very thread.We necessarily need to do so Duedate, that's the logical consequence of allowing HDE to stay, the fact you're actively arguing we should just ignore this consequence because "someone above said they wish to make a full CRT about it later" doesn't make sense, and honestly is shocking coming from a mod. We shouldn't, and in actuality, we don't allow direct misinformation of this level to exist on our profiles. We can't just hand-wave it away like it doesn't matter, that's bullshit. Also the guy, @Maitreya, who said he'd make a full CRT about it later literally agrees with removing it currently because he actually understands you can't just leave blatant misinformation on the profiles just because he's revising it eventually in the future.
We do not always follow logical consequence here, for a reason. Calc stacking is a logical consequence, but we try not to do that cause it can massively inflate ratings. The logical consequence of any character who goes above like mach 5, is that they have heat resistance cause of not catching fire, but we don't do that cause authors often ignore that bit. The logical consequence is that Striking Strength/AP should scale in proportion to speed, but we don't do that for everyone because speed and strength is separated often in fiction enough a lot of tiering wouldn't make sense. We separated dimensionality from AP because it was a shakey precedence built off of how DC worked or something like that.We can't just leave it, it's our obligation to remove, or correct misinformation on our profiles, the fact you're fighting against me on this is something else.
If the HDE itself is accurate, then the logical consequence of that accuracy is the upgrading of 2-C characters to Low 1-C, there's literally no logical way to bypass that entailment Duedate, unless you believe this doesn't scale to one's stats, that's the only way.
why people are saying ''anyone in the verse''only 3 characters in fire force are the ones who get the 2-C,in soul eater it is only 4I still vehemently disagree with anyone in this verse being 5-D / Low 1-C. 2-C itself is still iffy as ****.
Again, let me introduce you to a little thing called "context."LordGinSama, dimensional scaling has absolutely no relevance here and to be precise, it does not exist in VSBW.
This has nothing to do with the context, you are simply talking about a concept that has no relevance in this thread and imply that we don't know what is dimensional scaling while this scaling does not even exist in the site, hence "qualitative superiority" has a purpose here.
Stop with the accusations.
And matter of fact, he is in agreement of low 1-C.What matters is context, and the context here which even the most knowledgeable members of the verse agree that tier 1 Fire-Force makes no ******* sense contextually.
Dawg, where is deceived?
Lunch BreakDawg, where is deceived?
you really do have a problem with understanding stuffs, stop commenting for christ sakes, this is what DT saidFunny thing that the opposed side of this thread introduced "supposed requirements" and it got literally rejected in next thread.
So guys, I think, we should call staff members here, I agree with styling HDE and low 1-C
So tell me can the adolla be HDE in proper mathematical sense or just in transcendence sense? cause it is the latter, and I wanted to make it so even transcendence could grant you HDE but somehow you think DT argument helps FF. Dread let me say this again, stop commenting if you do not know about something. In fact my requirement is what may have given FF a chance at HDE, and not the other way around, but you simply could not understand that.The HDE page is for entities that are higher-dimensional in a proper mathematical sense, not simply for all Tier 1 beings/constructs, so neither of these three criteria qualify.
I really do not care about the other thread, it is not a hill I want to die on. Either way FF loses HDE.You really have time to comment here, rather on other thread? Finish the other thread since your counter-points here are invalid and based on nothing as long as your requirements you presented has no basis here.
How is FF losing HDE? I don't recall we have a staff consensus. You seem to be very confident.
Quoted from DTThe HDE page is for entities that are higher-dimensional in a proper mathematical sense, not simply for all Tier 1 beings/constructs, so neither of these three criteria qualify.
Dude read for God's sakeHe did not even talk here, not sure what you are even implying.
Also you went from DT comment proves that FF qualifies to "DT did not comment here" loltell me can the adolla be HDE in proper mathematical sense or just in transcendence sense? cause it is the latter, and I wanted to make it so even transcendence could grant you HDE but somehow you think DT argument helps FF. In fact my requirement is what may have given FF a chance at HDE, and not the other way around, but you simply could not understand that.
The reason for Adolla current HDE is cause it was called a Higher Plane twice, which is a form of transcendence but even that means jack here, but let us say we have more prove that it transcends the humans ontologically, then yes FF gets HDE but currently, they do not even qualify.
How is FF losing HDE? I don't recall we have a staff consensus. You seem to be very confident.
I really do not care about the other thread, it is not a hill I want to die on. Either way FF loses HDE.
i wonder,then what is with adolla then?what another space in the same dimensional plane,even if it is literraly not thatAnyway, agree with removal of HDE based on the evidence provided by PrinceOfPein, HDE is intended only for characters who are higher dimensional in the proper mathematical way
No the current discussion was how you said DT replies to me, means that FF gets to keep their HDE and I called you out on it, nothing more.And how this will give you right to actually conclude the thread? Since this is the current discussion.
Against which standards? The requirements that have no basis?
This was DT's comments and I am sure you can read it properly, just cannot comprehend itThe HDE page is for entities that are higher-dimensional in a proper mathematical sense, not simply for all Tier 1 beings/constructs, so neither of these three criteria qualify.