Fire Force Higher-Dimensional Existence Discussion/Possible Removal

[PrinceofPein]

DT did not evaluate this thread, again you got no right to conclude the thread.

Read

And yes I am confident that FF loses HDE since it is against our standards, so unless you want to change the standards or pass something against the standards, it is not holding

I do not have a right to and never claimed that I do, but again the confidence comes from the fact that it is against the standards, and somehow you think it is an insult when I say you have comprehension issues

 

[Alexander]

pain,what do you want to do with fire force?

 

[Maitreya12]

pain,what do you want to do with fire force?

Turn it back to being 5-B

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Okay can all of you shut up about who said what where.

Wait for arguments for HDE first.

 

[Alexander]

Turn it back to being 5-B

i don't think he is gonna make it,because his arguments for not to the low 2-C was ''it only affecte earth''or ''the moon is in the range of earth''

 

[ImmortalDread]

Okay can all of you shut up about who said what where.

Wait for arguments for HDE first.

You mean wait for valid counterarguments that do not involve a staff member's evaluation from a completely other thread? Sure

 

[BadSystems]

I don't see why it being in another thread makes it irrelevant, it demonstrates the standards for HDE, which Fire Force does not meet, at least with the scans in this thread.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Makes it completely irrelevant since a staff member require commenting in this thread to make a fair evaluation based on the thread's premise.
And not simply a member decide if the thread is concluded or not, specially there is one staff member who oppose removing HDE.

You are new user, perhaps but we have rules here.

 

[BadSystems]

No, it gives us a base to the "baseless standards", which can then be used. How is it irrelevant?

 

[BadSystems]

I'm not sure where you got the idea that PrinceOfPein was concluding the thread from, but I'll tell you that that's probably not the intention.

 

[PrinceofPein]

No, it gives us a base to the "baseless standards", which can then be used. How is it irrelevant?

Do not waste your time, it will elude her regardless

 

[BadSystems]

In short, Fire Force does not meet the requirements for HDE, as HDE applies when a structure or object has these additional spatial axes. Could you tell me where Fire Force shows this? Looking at the actual HDE page, with the statement from DT as a guiding light, how do you rationalize that "higher plane" means it has an extra axis? I ask you to use the statement because it proves that it uses the mathematical concept.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

That’s all cute and all but I personally have an eye on this.

The higher Dimensions should not be there to begin with
Stated to embody or contain higher dimension or stated to be higher dimensions means jack, since you have to prove either of these
1. There is a R>F difference
2 There is an ontological difference
3. They are higher spatial dimensions.
4. Larger in such a way that every other thing is infinitesimally small.

I am leaning towards agreeing with removal, but still neutral based on the fact I want to hear from a few members to share their thoughts. Maybe there is something Idk.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Those requirements are all denied by DT, sure you have your own opinion, but I am pointing out this.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Because with those requirements, everyone should be tier 1 to get HDE.

 

[BadSystems]

In short, Fire Force does not meet the requirements for HDE, as HDE applies when a structure or object has these additional spatial axes. Could you tell me where Fire Force shows this? Looking at the actual HDE page, with the statement from DT as a guiding light, how do you rationalize that "higher plane" means it has an extra axis? I ask you to use the statement because it proves that it uses the mathematical concept.

I'd like a reply to this pls, ImmortalDread

 

[ImmortalDread]

Ya, you are taking one scan out of many to counter it. It has been implied multiple times.

 

[BadSystems]

Could you post the specific scan which supports your point?

 

[PrinceofPein]

Those requirements are all denied by DT, sure you have your own opinion, but I am pointing out this.

Those requirements are what might have given FF HDE and he did not deny them, he just said, HDE are for characters that are Higher D purely based on mathematical sense. And FF HDE is not based on mathematical sense so what are you on about?

Because with those requirements, everyone should be tier 1 to get HDE.

Another reason why I said you do not read

1. There is Reality-Fiction Transcendence over a 3 or more Dimensional World.
2. The Entity or Object is larger than an infinite 3-Dimensional object or world.
3. They hold a form of transcendence over 3-D in a way that 3-D is unreal to them i.e. they hold an ontological difference over 3-Dimensional worlds or objects.

This are what I proposed, is this tier 1 or 4D and above?
No my proposals will not do that, you just lack the knowledge to understand it

This is just not your week

 

[Stryker861]

Decieved is gonna come back with the milk wishing he never started a Fire Force crt

 

[ImmortalDread]

Could you post the specific scan which supports your point?

They are all found in OP.

 

[Majinere566]

Whole lot of hostility in this back and forth y'all should just calm the **** down

 

[ImmortalDread]

Whole lot of hostility in this back and forth y'all should just calm the **** down

@PrinceofPein listen to him.

 

[BadSystems]

You mean the cosmology blog, or the OP itself?

 

[ImmortalDread]

The cosmology and OP.

 

[BadSystems]

After some quick reading, I think this scan () might have some potential. Uses the word extradimensional.

Sorry, I can't figure out how to upload images onto the forum. Anyone have a rebuttal to this?
Edit: Oh, it embedded

 

[BadSystems]

My first thoughts are extradimensional could just be adding on to the fact that its separate from or outside of the space-time continuum of the Universe, but I'd need some more context surrounding this, and how the word "dimension" is used throughout the series. Do they use it to mean realm, or the spatial dimensions? Changing to neutral, but leaning towards remove HDE. Gonna go for tonight.

 

[LordGinSama]

In short, Fire Force does not meet the requirements for HDE, as HDE applies when a structure or object has these additional spatial axes. Could you tell me where Fire Force shows this? Looking at the actual HDE page, with the statement from DT as a guiding light, how do you rationalize that "higher plane" means it has an extra axis? I ask you to use the statement because it proves that it uses the mathematical concept.

^^



As far as I'm aware Dread can comment all they want, that doesn't make them right especially whenever we have staff members like DT who disagree with this type of scaling.

 

[ImmortalDread]

As far as I'm aware Dread can comment all they want, that doesn't make them right especially whenever we have staff members like DT who disagree with this type of scaling.

As far as I am also aware, I never implied I am right, and neither this makes you or Pain right specially that DT never came here and evaluate it with the context

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

My first thoughts are extradimensional could just be adding on to the fact that its separate from or outside of the space-time continuum of the Universe, but I'd need some more context surrounding this, and how the word "dimension" is used throughout the series. Do they use it to mean realm, or the spatial dimensions? Changing to neutral, but leaning towards remove HDE. Gonna go for tonight.

Adolla is called a higher dimension. Evangelist is extradimensional. Sounds like an extra spatial axis.

 

[PrinceofPein]

As far as I am also aware, I never implied I am right, and neither this makes you or Pain right specially that DT never came here and evaluate it with the context

I am thinking you are doing this shit on purpose
Here is what you said, when you thought DT's comment aids your argument

Funny thing that the opposed side of this thread introduced "supposed requirements" and it got literally rejected in next thread.

So guys, I think, we should call staff members here, I agree with styling HDE and low 1-C

And here is what you said when you realized I was trying to help FF and DT comment mean FF is never getting HDE.

He did not even talk here, not sure what you are even implying.

And how this will give you right to actually conclude the thread? Since this is the current discussion.

BTW there is no context on HDE aside that adolla and evangelist were referred to be from a higher plane, that is all. And I cannot speak for you but I can speak for others and I am sure they will understand that such statements is not a mathematics form of higher dimension

Adolla is called a higher dimension. Evangelist is extradimensional. Sounds like an extra spatial axis.

Adolla is made up of pure thoughts and not physically real according to @Maitreya so how can it have axes? Leaps in logic
That aside called a higher plane and extradimensional which means (outside the physical reality) does not there is some extra axis in adolla especially following the contexts

 

[Maitreya12]

In short, Fire Force does not meet the requirements for HDE, as HDE applies when a structure or object has these additional spatial axes. Could you tell me where Fire Force shows this? Looking at the actual HDE page, with the statement from DT as a guiding light, how do you rationalize that "higher plane" means it has an extra axis? I ask you to use the statement because it proves that it uses the mathematical concept.

Ok look…

There’s a lot of arguments that can be made for Adolla qualifying for HDE, including from the list Pain provided, however personally I would’ve preferred these questions and problems and clarifications happened another time which is why I agreed with Deceived when he came up and said “we should remove HDE from Adolla’s page.”

Because revisions were in the works for both the HDE page and tier 1 as a whole and with the atrocious state the profiles were in right now, it made sense to remove the ability from the pages for the moment, and at a later point in time work on a better thread when all the pages were nice and fixed up were all the issues could be handled there.

But nothing can be easy when it comes for the FF lot and now all of these freaking arguments from this thread is turning me mad . So gimme a minute to work on a proper Adolla Higher Dimensional Existence argument.

I’m sorry Deceived I really didn’t want it to come to this.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Adolla is made up of pure thoughts and not physically real according to @Maitreya so how can it have axes? Leaps in logic
That aside called a higher plane and extradimensional which means (outside the physical reality) does not there is some extra axis in adolla especially following the contexts

Embodying what contains concept of higher dimensions as well as being called extradimensional sounds like some pretty damning evidence.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Embodying what contains concept of higher dimensions as well as being called extradimensional sounds like some pretty damning evidence.

it was never stated to contain concepts of Higher dimensions though, it is your own head canon

 

[Maitreya12]

Adolla is made up of pure thoughts and not physically real according to @Maitreya so how can it have axes? Leaps in logic
That aside called a higher plane and extradimensional which means (outside the physical reality) does not there is some extra axis in adolla especially following the contexts

I just saw this

Don’t go “according to Maitreya” Pain that’s what the series says

 

[PrinceofPein]

I just saw this

Don’t go “according to Maitreya” Pain that’s what the series says

potato pothato, same thing. You need maths/physics axes, which does not exist in adolla according to YOU

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

it was never stated to contain concepts of Higher dimensions though, it is your own head canon

Oh yea I forgot this wiki doesn't treat jungian archetypes as concepts!

 

[Alexander]

concepts of Higher dimensions though, it is your own head canon

basic thing
adolla = Human ideation
Humans think and have ideas about adolla being a higher dimension,meaning the idea of higher dimension exist in adolla.

 

[Maitreya12]

potato pothato, same thing. You need maths/physics axes, which does not exist in adolla according to YOU

Pain we literally already had a thread talking about this before. I was wrong about Adolla having Nonexistent Physiology. Why you coming at me like this bro

 

[Nierre]

Common Alexander W