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Battle of God Killers: Gorr vs Kratos (GRACE)

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Planck69 said:
Kratos does win more often than not, that's why it's decisive. It's not a stomp since not only will the approach be slightly different due to the lack of a threat to him and all he loves but like, Gorr has equal physical prowess, prior knowledge and BFR that Kratos can't come back from.

This is more than fair to Gorr. He loses concisely but he's not helpless at all.
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Kratos has like 100 different ways to win and stop BFR. Unless kratos becomes a dumbass statue and stands there Gorr loses. This match tries so hard to give kratos the win ngl 💀
 
ShionAH said:
Kratos has like 100 different ways to win and stop BFR. Unless kratos becomes a dumbass statue and stands there Gorr loses. This match tries so hard to give kratos the win ngl 💀
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Kratos won, I don't see how we're trying that hard.

And quit saying "we removed the main wincon", he never had it.
 
Now i wonder What if this was a bloodlusted GOW Thor vs Gorr
He will likely use due to gorr activating the bfr easier tho
 
ShionAH said:
In my opinion its a stomp. Not so surprising
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You're outvoted by everyone in that regard who deem the fight decisive, people who know both characters well enough to tell you that this won't be the case here. Your personal opinions can only take you so far.
 
KLOL506 said:
You're outvoted by everyone in that regard who deem the fight decisive, people who know both characters well enough to tell you that this won't be the case here. Your personal opinions can only take you so far.
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I really dont care. I am gonna try it because I believe its true
 
ShionAH said:
I really dont care. I am gonna try it because I believe its true
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Don't expect us to humor you though. You can suggest that on the thread, we'll deny it and move on. If you're expecting a massive back-and-forth cause you out of 10 people don't find this fair then you'll be disappointed.
 
Planck69 said:
Don't expect us to humor you though. You can suggest that on the thread, we'll deny it and move on. If you're expecting a massive back-and-forth cause you out of 10 people don't find this fair then you'll be disappointed.
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Why is this such a big deal lol? I think this is not fair, so I use the thread. Its simple I would just ask for a either better explanation on how this is not a stomp or a complete removal. Great matchup though @Planck69
 
ShionAH said:
Why is this such a big deal lol? I think this is not fair, so I use the thread. Its simple I would just ask for a either better explanation on how this is not a stomp or a complete removal
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I'm saying not to waste the supporters, the staff and our time.

What better explanation do you think you're entitled to? Everything's been addressed here. It may come as a surprise to you but threads don't need to fit your clean bill to apply.

So like I said, you can do this if you want but the most you'll receive is a redirect to some comments here and that's all.
 
Planck69 said:
I'm saying not to waste the supporters, the staff and our time.

What better explanation do you think you're entitled to? Everything's been addressed here. It may come as a surprise to you but threads don't need to fit your clean bill to apply.

So like I said, you can do this if you want but the most you'll receive is a redirect to some comments here and that's all.
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Okay. I am hoping a good explanation can be brought up when I do it.
 
ShionAH said:
Okay. I am hoping a good explanation can be brought up when I do it.
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You're not getting anything new. You asked on this thread why it isn't a stomp and we explained it to you. Seeing as the majority keep voting for Kratos and don't change their minds, they agree as well.

Like I said, a waste of time. A single disagreement doesn't overturn 10 votes including actually knowledgeable members on both ends.
 
Planck69 said:
You're not getting anything new. You asked on this thread why it isn't a stomp and we explained it to you. Seeing as the majority keep voting for Kratos and don't change their minds, they agree as well.

Like I said, a waste of time. A single disagreement doesn't overturn 10 votes including actually knowledgeable members on both ends.
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The only explanation was “BFR works because it works” ignoring the fact that kratos can slow down time and one shot
 
ShionAH said:
The only explanation was “BFR works because it works” ignoring the fact that kratos can slow down time and one shot
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Can you stop spamming "he oneshots" when both of them are near even in power? Kratos has an incapacitation method via his Axe, which is usually but not always his initial weapon. The BFR does work and can actually land, it's just far, far less likely to do so before Gorr's overwhelmed.

Only you of all the people here can't fathom that a decisive victory can happen and that not all fights have to be bitter struggles to be viable. He can harm and kill Kratos and he can actually BFR the former. Is this likely to happen before he gets killed? No, in the eyes of most people here currently. But that doesn't make it a stomp. Does that make it a stomp? No.

That's all there is to it. Kratos will land his win conditions far more often than Gorr. And seeing as 10 people, including supporters of both verses agree with that, it's a done-and-done thread.
 
Planck69 said:
Can you stop spamming "he oneshots" when both of them are near even in power? Kratos has an incapacitation method via his Axe, which is usually but not always his initial weapon. The BFR does work and can actually land, it's just far, far less likely to do so before Gorr's overwhelmed.
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You do know kratos does 3 different hax including CM3 on hits? Its a one shot bruh
Planck69 said:
Only you of all the people here can't fathom that a decisive victory can happen and that not all fights have to be bitter struggles to be viable. He can harm and kill Kratos and he can actually BFR the former. Is this likely to happen before he gets killed? No, in the eyes of most people here currently. But that doesn't make it a stomp. Does that make it a stomp? No.

That's all there is to it. Kratos will land his win conditions far more often than Gorr. And seeing as 10 people, including supporters of both verses agree with that, it's a done-and-done thread.
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Its just weird since when I asked if his BFR works the answers I got was "kratos will slow down time if he senses the shard" and "kratos can also dodge the blow without a problem".
 
Planck69 said:
Kratos dodges that with utter ease considering his enhances senses, combat experience, accelerated development and instinctive reactions. Not to mention his own resistance to space-time manipulation.
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This was your answer to BFR. Even after seeing this can you tell me its not a stomp my good sir? Kratos literally resists Gorrs BFR according to this
 
ShionAH said:
You do know kratos does 3 different hax including CM3 on hits? Its a one shot bruh
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He doesn't open with that anyway, what's your point?
ShionAH said:
Its just weird since when I asked if his BFR works the answers I got was "kratos will slow down time if he senses the shard" and "kratos can also dodge the blow without a problem".
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Yes, Kratos can avoid them but it's not a 100% thing. That's really the crux of this.
ShionAH said:
This was your answer to BFR. Even after seeing this can you tell me its not a stomp my good sir? Kratos literally resists Gorrs BFR according to this
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Yeah, and I was corrected later on (either on this thread or Discord, don't remember which).
 
Planck69 said:
He doesn't open with that anyway, what's your point?
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Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation and Memory Manipulation, Vector Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3), Non-Physical Interaction (Should scale to his Demigod self, who could easily bare-handedly kill souls in Elysium even after being stripped of his powers and rendered completely human. Souls are composed of their form, the metaphysical nature of a being, their luck, their mind and their direction, which guides their path to their respective afterlife as per Mimir's words[14]. Damaging souls can shatter and fragment their memories as a consequence[14]. His Leviathan Axe also possess these abilities. Able to interact with Realm Tears, which[78] are holes in the fabric[79] of reality[60] that threaten the existence of individual realms[80], and can easily seal them off with just his raw strength alone[60], said holes also being noted by Mimir to be voids)


he literally has it on his basic attacks
 
ShionAH said:
Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation and Memory Manipulation, Vector Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3), Non-Physical Interaction (Should scale to his Demigod self, who could easily bare-handedly kill souls in Elysium even after being stripped of his powers and rendered completely human. Souls are composed of their form, the metaphysical nature of a being, their luck, their mind and their direction, which guides their path to their respective afterlife as per Mimir's words[14]. Damaging souls can shatter and fragment their memories as a consequence[14]. His Leviathan Axe also possess these abilities. Able to interact with Realm Tears, which[78] are holes in the fabric[79] of reality[60] that threaten the existence of individual realms[80], and can easily seal them off with just his raw strength alone[60], said holes also being noted by Mimir to be voids)


he literally has it on his basic attacks
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You do realize it's not a passive thing right? Like, he's not grazing people and deleting their concepts.
 
ShionAH said:
He resists space and time which Gorr uses to BFR. Look at his page
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Resisting space-time attacks and tearing =/= resisting BFR.

Honestly, you seem to just be grasping at straws at this rate. If you can show me where on Kratos page, he resists temporal BFR then be my guest.
 
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