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Not at all what I was implying, but ok
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RWBY: Light Speed Upgrade
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No, she is projecting raw light with her copy of penny's beam as penny's beam does not have a physical projectile. And no, there is no such thing as 'energy dust'
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Bro, just give the scan.
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Boyo chill im responding to Rusty's stuff then i'll grab the scan
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He’s literally asleep, wdym
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You must be new to seeing me and Weekly interact in any way
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This is just a normal conversation for us lol
This is just a normal conversation for us lol
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Currently I am in disagreement with the thread based on Rusty's and King’s points above.
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Ah okay lol
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Lowkey wondering if we'd be allowed to ask one of the writers on twitter, since Penny is dead its not like it would be a spoiler, just like, if Penny and her swords use Dust and if so, what kind
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I didn’t even bring that up tho.
That’s fishing for an upgrade homie, don’t do that. You would be asking them that as evidence specifically for an upgrade, not a good look, even if the question is only upgrade-adjacent.
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Also hold up, so you don’t have a scan saying her lasers are hard light dust?
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Anyway I’m going to sleep
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Is it though? I didnt say to ask if she uses hard light dust, just what kind in general as the Guidebook and RWBY wiki say she uses Dust but not what kind
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I mean, its not just that by itself, its all the other factors and attributes her lasers have, only moving in straight lines, generating heat and cutting material rather than generating force, being made of natural light, etc. And its not just Velvet's laser, its literally every other laser weapon in the verse.
The issue with this train of logic is that Mach 380 comes from four seasons ago, and since then the cast has gone through two timeskip training arcs where they were noted to have gotten stronger and faster at the end of each. Thats like saying they cant be MHS because they only have bullet dodging feats in the Beacon Arc.
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Just a quick question but if Velvet is producing “raw light” from the copies of her weapon then wouldn’t that count as a disqualifying factor for it being light speed due to her constructs curving and such?
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Not really no, the raw form of Hard Light Dust is natural light, which is what Velvet projects in the form of lasers, while her constructs are a processed state of Hard Light dust created by her weapon to make weapon copies, similar to how Hard Light Dust in its processed state is used to make barriers.
Its like how Fire Dust in its raw state just makes fire but when used as a bullet or bomb it makes an explosion. The raw state of Dust projects its natural element, the processed state alters that element and applies it for a specific use.
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Furthermore, even though it bounces right back at Ironwood, Winter’s ice wall still reflects the beam. And as stated in the main CRT, ice, while not being as reflexive as water, is still so. If it was just a standard issue energy blast, then it would have just exploded on contact.
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INB4 we just wait for DB to do Azula vs Cinder and they confirm penny's lasers are lightspeed because Cinder dodged them
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Lol. Sad if true.
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I mean, technically we have met two of the criteria for proving they are LS. A trustworthy source in universe that says they are real lasers and a reflection. Like, Atlas scientists have to know what photons are and what a laser does. Thus, when they call something a laser, they know full well what that entails. I brought up the cloaking devices not because it directly connects to Penny's lasers being LS, but because it shows that those scientists know how natural light works. Again, those descriptions are written in universe by a scientist working for the gaming company that runs Atlas Arena. And, to be fair, nowhere on the list of criteria for LS feats does it say that these statements have to have some extra proof. Just the statement is good enough if they are lightspeed. But, again, I point towards the reflection feat.
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This coupled with the other Atlas laser weaponry and the fact that Atlas is literally the father of Hard Light Dust and uses it in almost everything. If their standard laser weaponry uses it why would they leave it out of the person who was created with the sole purpose of being the city's defender, as well as said scientists referring to both her beam and the hard light beams of atlas weapons like the beam turret as the same kind of lasers
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"Rusty brought up some good points; at least 2 or 3 of those 5 points should also have evidence. Though if the lasers are machine generated I suppose that can be point 1, but we need another point or 2."
Also, to quote Meduses, if the lasers are machine generated, that could count as a point. And we already have another point with the Atlas scientist statement.
Also, to quote Meduses, if the lasers are machine generated, that could count as a point. And we already have another point with the Atlas scientist statement.
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They are machine generated, as well as the thing with Velvet's camera and the cameras in scrolls using hard light dust
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Is it confirmed Penny’s lasers are pure hard light dust though? Has a scan for that been provided?
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It doesn't have to be hard light dust for it to be true lasers. Lasers in the real world are powered by electricity anyway.
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Its not, we just know that her weapons are powered by Dust and her lasers are considered by Atlas scientists (Scientists who pioneered the development of hard light dust based laser weapons) as being the same lasers as the ones employed by the weapons and technology of the atlas military, on top of the properties her lasers have which fall in line with the standards for lightspeed
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Atlesian Airship
The Atlesian Airship was a large military aircraft used by the Atlas Military. The Atlesian Airship was designed by the Atlas military in conjunction with the Schnee Dust Company, a testament to the Dust company's good relations with its kingdom's forces.[1] The airships are first seen in...
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Here on the RWBY wiki, it states that its armaments include laser batteries.
We can see them firing them at the 10:30 mark.
We see them again fire those lasers here at the 17:30 mark, using the same color too.
Again, this just adds another piece of evidence that Atlas knows what lasers are and how to use them.
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Again, Atlas is quite literally stated in RWBY's lore to be the father of hard light dust, they are the only continent in the world that developed and utilizes laser weaponry
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I agree with this upgrade
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