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Any new ability for Sonic? You didn't want manipulation of probability or fate considering that he is the only one who managed to escape from cyberspace.
and the probabilities of escaping is like,well,0.
 
Literally the beginning of the end.

Overall I agree with the CRT, btw shouldn't "The End" have some kind of heighten senses ? since it tracked the Ancients across space to Earth and it knew Sonic had the capabilities to set it free, I dunno how it'll be quantified tho.

Also it's both funny yet poetic that game Sonic is progressively catching up to his Archie counterpart in terms of both hax and AP still a ways to go before catching up to his SMT version tho.
The fact that the once abyssal gap between game and Archie sonic will very likely be much smaller quite soon is crazy to think about honestly

Archie’s extradimensional tiering and crazier haxx will probably still outdo game sonic but the difference won’t be as crazy anymore.

Also isn’t SMT Sonic just insane stats but not much haxx?

Also guys can we please save immeasurable suit for later it’s not for this thread and will only muddy shit further
 
The fact that the once abyssal gap between game and Archie sonic will very likely be much smaller quite soon is crazy to think about honestly

Archie’s extradimensional tiering and crazier haxx will probably still outdo game sonic but the difference won’t be as crazy anymore.

Also isn’t SMT Sonic just insane stats but not much haxx?

Also guys can we please save immeasurable suit for later it’s not for this thread and will only muddy shit further

well the shin megami tensei should be the same as the video game, only more buffed in stats
 
You already know the answer. It starts with an "o" and it rhymes with eyeliner
But you literally cannot progress the story without doing that, and it happens 3 times throughout the game.
At what point does outlier apply, when Sonic is supposedly always getting stronger.
Sage is even controlling the Titan’s movements during the final boss, so make that 4 instances potentially, for speed
 
Immeasurable Speed is ****** when the character who has it is still written with three-dimensional speed.
 
But you literally cannot progress the story without doing that, and it happens 3 times throughout the game.
At what point does outlier apply, when Sonic is supposedly always getting stronger.
Sage is even controlling the Titan’s movements during the final boss, so make that 4 instances potentially, for speed
and you think four instances of Plot-Induced Stupidity make it okay and outweigh the incalculable gap between Sonic and Super Sonic?
 
and you think four instances of Plot-Induced Stupidity make it okay and outweigh the incalculable gap between Sonic and Super Sonic?
Clearly the gap between them isn’t incalculable when Sonic has achieved feats once done only by Super Sonic.
 
Immeasurable Speed is ****** when the character who has it is still written with three-dimensional speed.

if sonic already traveled in time from sonic CD,and consedering he can fix space and time in sonic generations,i think he is immeasurable speed because of that.

Of course I know that the thing that takes a lot is a meme and that's it, but literally keep moving when time doesn't exist. Isn't it going to be that something like taking time even matters?like, really? a lot of characters in video games get nerfed for the sake of the plot, because no one wants everything to end instantly, that's too boring
 
Oh my god immeasurable speed is nowhere as an addition in this thread can we please save this shit for another time so newer admins can actually evaluate the mountain of content that’s already here
since sonic CD exist and since Sonic generations exist,sonic is immeasurable speed.
 
Oh my god immeasurable speed is nowhere as an addition in this thread can we please save this shit for another time so newer admins can actually evaluate the mountain of content that’s already here
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Can any of you not derail for a minute?
This, leave that discussion at the door because the thread will instantly be boosted by like 5 pages if we want to sit here and argue about this. It's nowhere in the sandboxes, it should be nowhere in this discussion.
 
It being immeasurable was sort of irrelevant to me, but I do think another thread should be made for considering scaling base Sonic’s speed to the Titans at a later date.
 
I suppose if we want to cushion on The End's statement/showings. Sage knows about Eggman's "entire campaign history" (which would include Egg Wizard data) and says to Sonic that "the threat we face is beyond imagination".
 
I suppose if we want to cushion on The End's statement/showings. Sage knows about Eggman's "entire campaign history" (which would include Egg Wizard data) and says to Sonic that "the threat we face is beyond imagination".
which would support what I already said, that the end is more powerful than solaris
 
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