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U are a troll
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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
- Thread starter TheRustyOne
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We don’t need to find the attacks: Dabi passively having Phosphor active is contributing to the cloud’s size. And the timeframe shouldn’t be any longer than 5 minutes realistically
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Assuming the attack took 5 minutes, the result drops down to 39.9 Teratons (6-B). Then divide it by 3 because it was the combined effort of Dabi, Shoto, and Endeavor, and you get 13.3 Teratons (6-B)
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Also, fun fact, assuming Deku takes out the cloud with a single punch, the results go from 5-C to 5-B
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Right now I'm dead serious
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He's actually a little bit right
But I don't think that is a reason to ignore the feat
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It still doesn’t scale though. Dabi passively contributing still means this feat was accomplished by numerous attacks by him and the others. It can’t be properly attributed and it logically wouldn’t scale anyway.
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No you’re not
every single post I’ve seen u make on this thread is bait. I refuse to believe u genuinely think Dabi and Endeavor and Shoto creating a storm that spans over CONTINENTS and raising the temperature on a WORLDWIDE scale aren’t intended feats to show their strength
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Dabi vaporized a considerable portion of a skyscraper with Jet Burn
and Dabi literally melted city blocks to create fissures of magma and lava. He is beyond the feats of vaporizing a city block
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It isn’t worldwide though. It’s a big cloud that could be blown to America by wind is what I’m getting.No you’re not
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To create a continental level storm through vaporization they should at least vaporize a city or a good part of all of Japan lolDabi vaporized a considerable portion of a skyscraper with Jet Burn
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Horikoshi definitely doesn’t know how strong the cloud feats are. I get the feeling he knows they’re impressive but not exactly how much.
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The storm isn’t worldwide, but it is stated that they created heat waves that span over the entire planet
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Really? I don’t recall seeing something like that in the leaks I saw. Lets wait for the officials then.
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At the very least, Dabi, Shoto, and Endeavor need their range bumped up to Thousands of Kilometers
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Multiple problems with this.
1) Remember to use the new updated cloud density which I believe I recall you using the original cloud density method, which overinflates the results.
2) The feat was done over the course of wayy longer than just 5 minutes. Again Endeavor hardly even began fighting AFO until after Shoto already took down Dabi for the first time. And Dabi didn’t regain his strength until after AFO was taken down for the first time. A timeframe of more like 20 minutes I think is more appropriate.
3) The feat was performed through a multitude of attacks and not just a single one so the feat would hardly scale to them if at all in the first place.
4) It needs to be double checked if we even use temperature feats such as this to scale characters on the site.
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...You do know that clouds getting pushed out of the sky and usually evaporating only happens when nuclear weapons are used, right?
Horikoshi 100% knows what he's doing, lol
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Mane why is this talk even being had, it’s not like they did this with physical force, it was the temperature of their attacks and the physics of making clouds. Even if they covered the entire world with clouds in 1 second, no one would scale because of the nature of making them.
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I’ll wait for Therefir or Damage or Rusty’s input on the feat when the chapter releases
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I guess, but I thought they made it known after removing Todoroki’s ice feats or removing his AP value for Vaporizing ice.
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I assume the feat will end up being listed as combat inapplicable Environmental Destruction if it’s calculable.
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Why are you even on here?
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Because this thread is public and he has an account on the site lol
EDIT: NVM. I just looked at the guy's profile. He only comments on this thread. Sus as ****
EDIT: NVM. I just looked at the guy's profile. He only comments on this thread. Sus as ****
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No one is saying he can't be on here or isn't allowed, I'm asking what his motive is which, from what I can see, is hell bent on characters being capped at town level and sub sonic.
6C and 6B MHA keeps him up at night
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But his account is 2 years old
. And I can agree with him, not saying they shouldn’t scale to the level they are at, but when ALL of their strong feats come from clouds and their other feats are vastly inferior to them it should raise some eyebrows.
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Like I like the series n all but calling someone a troll or making them out to be one because they believe that is just wrong, because he’s not incorrect. Like, you can’t even name 3 feats city level and above that aren’t related to clouds
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AFO wiping out an entire city with a single blast
Gigantomachia creating a crater in a mountain
Bakugou has a 7-A feat in Heroes Rising that doesn’t involve the storm, forgot the name of the feat
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Unquantifiable, don’t know if he destroyed it, how it was destroyed, how big the city was. Nothing, we know nothing.
Not city level.
You mean when he melt the side of the mountain? I don’t recall that being 7-A, iirc it was calc at small city level AND that was a temperate feat iirc.
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100% Ofa best showing (no cloud feats) 
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Doesnt matter if the feat isn’t quantifiable, we can still call it 7-B
Not that feat, Bakugou’s final blast was calced at 7-A
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And I don’t understand the whole “most of the best feats are cloud feats” thing, I explained the logic like 50 times and I am convinced a 3rd grader can grasp the concept
It is a HERO SOCIETY. They can’t just wipe out cities, which is why they resort to clouds. This is exactly why Star and Stripe and Shiggy’s fight took place in the sky, and this is also why Hawks literally stated that Endeavor would have caused massive damage to the city if he hadn’t flown Hood into the sky.
It is a HERO SOCIETY. They can’t just wipe out cities, which is why they resort to clouds. This is exactly why Star and Stripe and Shiggy’s fight took place in the sky, and this is also why Hawks literally stated that Endeavor would have caused massive damage to the city if he hadn’t flown Hood into the sky.
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If Horikoshi didn’t understand the intensity of cloud feats, he wouldn’t have had SIX instances of top tiers dispersing or creating clouds. It’s a simple train of logic.
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“These feats from the top tiers are consistent, so they should be thrown out, because they’re consistently higher than other feats”
Like are we serious rn? Acting like Deku can just destroy a whole city in one hit and everything be fine in the story after is the height of stupidity. Avoiding collateral is something that is actively done by the heroes, who are also the ones causing all these strongest feats.
It’s a story first, power scaling is secondary to that. If Horikoshi wants there to be 100 cloud dispersing feats so that the heroes don’t cause unnecessary damage, then there will be 100 cloud dispersing feats, and they will all be valid because why would they not be.
Like are we serious rn? Acting like Deku can just destroy a whole city in one hit and everything be fine in the story after is the height of stupidity. Avoiding collateral is something that is actively done by the heroes, who are also the ones causing all these strongest feats.
It’s a story first, power scaling is secondary to that. If Horikoshi wants there to be 100 cloud dispersing feats so that the heroes don’t cause unnecessary damage, then there will be 100 cloud dispersing feats, and they will all be valid because why would they not be.
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And when horikoshi finally decides to use a nuke in the manga, the fireball has a calculable diameter at City-Island AP, but they use CLOUD FEATS to raise it to CONTINENTAL.
No, of course Horikoshi doesn't understand what he's doing.
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Almost like brand new fantasy missiles were being used so he used clouds to display how much stronger than average the explosion of those missiles are than they normally would be irl.
Also the Star Intercontinental Punch is Small Country level, fym continental
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Okay, you got me.
Oh wait, and the villains?
Afo and Endeavor are literally in the mountains and the best thing Horikoshi does for them is to destroy a bunch of trees.
Doesn't it seem strange to you that the best collateral damage in the series is from Gigantomachia and it didn't even totally destroy one single mountain? We can't even use it because we don't know how long it take him
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Sure but why didn’t AFO destroy a city in one shot when he first appeared? Instead it specifies multiple city blocks. Why didn’t Muscular or Deku blow away the mountain they were fighting on?
Like I said I certainly think Hori knows cloud feats are impressive but he doesn’t know how much.
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I just love BNHA more than almost any verse
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Because he was holding back and just wanted to get rid of the heroes? What does he gain from destroying a city in his current state? Does blasting Kamino to pieces help his goal? You can’t just say “he didn’t do this so that’s sus” when you don’t even know his full motive for attacking.
And he doesn’t destroy Kamino especially after All Might arrives because he’s taunting and trying to break him first, with AM blocking all of his attacks to MINIMIZE the collateral. The biggest impact they had was their final clash, and all of that momentum was directed into a crater (which was most recently Re-calced at above baseline 7-A if I recall correctly).
This narrative that they should just blow up everything and everyone instantly otherwise their tiers aren’t justified by their feats is ridiculous. Are we going back to DBZ logic for attacks not destroying the planet? Do we want to downgrade Bleach too cause Ichigo doesn’t cleave a solar system in half everytime he goes all out?
These people are doing feats and taking hits from people that do those feats. There are several of these feats and likely more to come. I don’t understand this logic that cloud feats shouldn’t be acceptable because the strongest possible characters perform them.
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Horikoshi didn't even dare to represent the explosion with a mushroom cloud.
Horikoshi did not even use in them mentions such as "the strongest missiles in USA" only that they were "hypersonic+"
All this is summed up in that you have to assume a higher level than the one actually shown or mentioned in the manga.
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