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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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The question is whether the effects of this Rewind can be erased since it isn't a quirk. But yeah, my hope is that AFO dies by either Shigaraki, Deku, or All Might so I'm hoping he doesn't get rewinded to non-existence.
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Were there any confirmation on what is causing the rewinding? Did AFO received a botched version of Eri's quirk and used it on himself or was it injected into his body like the quirk bullet cuz if it's the former then Erasure is definitely able to stop the effect as seen in the Overhaul arc
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AFO's rewinding was done via reversed engineered bullets.
Aizawa stops Quirks by prevent their usage in the first place. But he doesn't get rid of the effects that already exist. He can stop Endeavor from making flames but cannot get rid of existing flames. Though they should quickly vanish without Endeavor maintaining them, but you get the idea.
When the Doctor was explaining this to AFO in the flashback he was holding a bullet. We already know he was capable of reproducing them and admits he focused on the rewind aspect more than the Quirk destroying part. So I don't believe Erasure would stop the effects of the bullets.
It's possible he could pull a Izuku and damage his body faster than it rewinds. I doubt the bullet keeps rewinding forever, but who knows how her power works.
Edit: Also the flashback heavily implies AFO didn't even know Eri existed. Since the Doctor didn't know and was shocked this came from a Quirk. Maybe AFO could've secretly known, but I'd put my money on him not even knowing she existed. He only just found out that this rewind Quirk exist after he escape.
Aizawa stops Quirks by prevent their usage in the first place. But he doesn't get rid of the effects that already exist. He can stop Endeavor from making flames but cannot get rid of existing flames. Though they should quickly vanish without Endeavor maintaining them, but you get the idea.
When the Doctor was explaining this to AFO in the flashback he was holding a bullet. We already know he was capable of reproducing them and admits he focused on the rewind aspect more than the Quirk destroying part. So I don't believe Erasure would stop the effects of the bullets.
It's possible he could pull a Izuku and damage his body faster than it rewinds. I doubt the bullet keeps rewinding forever, but who knows how her power works.
Edit: Also the flashback heavily implies AFO didn't even know Eri existed. Since the Doctor didn't know and was shocked this came from a Quirk. Maybe AFO could've secretly known, but I'd put my money on him not even knowing she existed. He only just found out that this rewind Quirk exist after he escape.
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The state that AFO is in is truly fascinating. If you hurt him then not only is he able to Rewind the damage away, you'll be prolonging his existence. On the flip side if you leave him alone he'll slowly wither away, but given how dangerous he is and how much time he got due to his lifespan, not attacking also seem like a bad choice.
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If there’s one thing I appreciate the anime for with last episode, it would be that the elbow to Deku’s gut was treated how it should have been; full range of motion hit that was literally a non issue to Deku. Thank you anime for confirming his durability like that.
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Would've appreciated if they add a bit more blood to match the manga
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AFO, Dabi, and Toga-Twice Clone all in one place
Shigaraki is about to be freed by Kurogiri
Heroes are ******
Shigaraki is about to be freed by Kurogiri
Heroes are ******
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Im aware he was tagged by the explosion, im arguing against the belief he was punched head on, which is literally unsupported by the series, never have we seen Star hit him head on, nor does the sequence of events show this.
If he was hit head on he would be planted into the bottom of the crater, not thousands of meters away from the epicenter and by the jets who are shown to be outside of the explosion.
There’s no denying anything, he wasn’t hit head on. The sequence of events doesn’t support it nor does the series show this. The only evidence of her hitting him head on is yall claiming “there’s no way she would miss” which is a baseless claim. Nothing supports this claim. It’s just a burden of proof.
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But will any of the students die?
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Endeavor gonna solo one shot all of them
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I'd like to bring up that the Nomu ISN'T scaling to the explosion, I don't get why people don't understand this yet.
The Nomu's body is massively smaller than the explosive device and can't even be subjected to the full force of the missile. It's just impossible to directly scale it to anyone but Star and Stripe's Air Giant, which was holding the missiles in its hands and is bigger than the explosive devices.
The one missile scaling is based on different reasoning. Star used ten of them, meaning she/USA believed a single missile wouldn't be enough to kill Shigaraki. Now whether this reasoning is correct or not will be discussed in the future CRT, because I know people have some issues with it.
I know of the issues with that reasoning actually and the missiles have a chance of just becoming a supporting feat for the High 6-C rating. Also I've explained the Inverse Square Law cannot be used in this scenario unless we have a panel that shows us how far away the Nomu was from the center of the blast.
If that happens the characters will end up at 100+ Gigatons and lower tiers would be downscaling to baseline 6-C+ or 52.15 Gigatons.
Basically discussing the explosion and if the Nomu was directly hit is 100% pointless. Just a waste of time.
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Can we calculate how much energy Shigaraki received? I know it obviously will not be Tier 6 amounts, but I’m curious
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Since he was underground and not in the air, nope. The Inverse Square Law doesn't take into account if there are any solid objects in between the target and explosion.
Someone would have to find a completely new method. Edit: We also have no idea how deep Shigaraki's hole went.
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I assumed he was scaling because of him being point blank to the explosion.
And given the rebuttals I was given, it seemed that everyone else also went along with that notion.
But im glad it’ll be brought up in a later CRT bc that reasoning just seems weird in general.
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Ok so after checking the chapter the storm feat is completely unviable for Todoroki, Endeavor and Dabi considering the cloudd was manifested from an already existing typhoon combining with said heat.
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They both split it with a Yonko style clash
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Watch as they both get Low 6-B result from the clash making the argument of whether the High end scale to one missile useless
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Episode is out and tbh they did this justice. The music, Bakugo’s sacrifice and the voice acting were really good. They also referenced the cover with Bakugo accepting Deku’s hand which was a nice touch.
Watching Deku go ham on Tomura was great we get to see him zip around more and see more of the hits he landed.
Honestly worst part was just that they censored how messed up Tomura’s face was from Deku’s Wyoming Smash.
Watching Deku go ham on Tomura was great we get to see him zip around more and see more of the hits he landed.
Honestly worst part was just that they censored how messed up Tomura’s face was from Deku’s Wyoming Smash.
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Alright, Season 6 Episode 9 aired and it ends with Bakugo being impaled. The episode was well done... But this may be a bit controversial from me.
Made this a spoiler tag due to how long this is. Apologies.
Made this a spoiler tag due to how long this is. Apologies.
Aizawa cutting off his leg is made very clear and I think was done better than the initial release of the manga. Shigaraki biting down on Izuku's arm still looks dumb. Interestingly the anime didn't have Aizawa blink after cutting his leg off, instead his Quirk flickered down as it was deactivated but came back after a split second.
As if the drug only temporarily effected him since he cut off his leg before the rest of the drug could work. We don't know how the bullets really work so I'm fine with that take on how Shigaraki was able to use his Quirks in that moment. Aizawa lost his Quirk for a small moment.
Shiggy does use an air cannon to free himself from Izuku's Blackwhip, they even show his hands as the air cannon is fired. But they had Endeavor be effected by the blast and was pushed back, despite in the manga he didn't care and punched through it and just missed Shigaraki when he moved.
Shigaraki digging his hands into Aizawa's face was done amazingly. That first person shot was beyond creepy, his deranged look is still there though his jaw isn't hanging open. Censorship hits but I think his face looked crazed enough. Just Shiggy biting Izuku looks stupid.
I'm surprised with the censorship on Aizawa. I know people that didn't notice Shiggy dragged his fingers through Aizawa's eye, but the anime made it damn clear.
The lead up to Machia's rampage and seeing the path of destruction he left was done very well. The music and sense of dread in the scene is perfectly done.
Machia's rampage through the city lacks the visual showings of him plowing through the buildings like in the manga and what little we see are still frames. They never animate a single moment of Machia going through a building, they just have him run through a cloud of dust in one shot.
Honestly not a bad scene and I didn't even notice at first. Just something I noticed when watching it back.
Shigaraki's body splitting open is done as well as they could given the censorship. They completely removed the scene of Mirko being carried away and the flashback of Shiggy being 75% done. I don't like that they're removing those kind of scenes, just like how they removed Bakugo destroying one of the bullets.
The flashback was done perfectly, not that hard to do since it was mostly talking. But after that we go into the 100% smash barrage and... Controversial time.
The initial build up to 100% doesn't destroy Izuku's gloves like it was suppose to. That close up we had of Izuku's fist really should've shown his glove get shredded, since his outfit not being destroyed makes 100% look inconsistent. His glove is just gone in the next shot, we don't see it destroyed.
The sound effects are nice and we could hear his three rapid hits. While the initial hit was a still frame, the shockwave from those smashes and Izuku's turn around to keep going was beautiful. The 100% barrage we get after is weird to me. In terms of how it's animated, Izuku moves fluidly and I can tell this took a lot of effort. It's very well animated and I think they really are trying here. There are no still frames and they bounce around in the air.
The actual impact of his "100%" hits feels off. The Detroit Smash had little effects and his Wyoming Smashes were just multiple hand chops that didn't do anything. Shigaraki's line about how he'll go down if he stops defending sounds off when the hits don't convey a sense of power.
Also they show him use a 100% kick so people can finally shut up about him not kicking. St. Louise Smash is a kick and glad they showed it clearly.
I didn't feel hyped up watching him land those first attacks on Shiggy and I wasn't feeling those smashes. I think I need to see this more and maybe it'll grow on me. I didn't hate it at all, but it wasn't what I was expecting. Hard to believe these are my own feelings about the episode.
Edit: I think my issue is that I was expecting something impossible. If I had normal expectations I would've loved this moment.
The animation continues to be done very well. Izuku's Texas Smash on the other hand was amazing all around.
Endeavor's Prominence Burn was done amazingly and Shigaraki's voice actor sells the agony of being burned alive. Also AFO taking over Shigaraki's body is chilling with that tv effect at the end, like Shiggy's been turned off. Super creepy.
We don't see Bakugo get impaled, we just cut to a shot of him already being skewered. I'd prefer to see the stab but I don't mind this.
We have a nice new ending visuals with Bakugo, as I expected. All in all this was a damn fine episode. The preview last week had me scared but it didn't even come close to being disappointing. Just very weird for some moments I was looking forward to. But I wasn't disappointed at all.
Note: Forgot to mention but Bakugo's quick use of Cluster was done with rainbow colors, and I kind of hope that's how they'll actually animate his Cluster. With rainbow/star effects, it looked really good and got me excited to see his Cluster in the future.
As if the drug only temporarily effected him since he cut off his leg before the rest of the drug could work. We don't know how the bullets really work so I'm fine with that take on how Shigaraki was able to use his Quirks in that moment. Aizawa lost his Quirk for a small moment.
Shiggy does use an air cannon to free himself from Izuku's Blackwhip, they even show his hands as the air cannon is fired. But they had Endeavor be effected by the blast and was pushed back, despite in the manga he didn't care and punched through it and just missed Shigaraki when he moved.
Shigaraki digging his hands into Aizawa's face was done amazingly. That first person shot was beyond creepy, his deranged look is still there though his jaw isn't hanging open. Censorship hits but I think his face looked crazed enough. Just Shiggy biting Izuku looks stupid.
I'm surprised with the censorship on Aizawa. I know people that didn't notice Shiggy dragged his fingers through Aizawa's eye, but the anime made it damn clear.
The lead up to Machia's rampage and seeing the path of destruction he left was done very well. The music and sense of dread in the scene is perfectly done.
Machia's rampage through the city lacks the visual showings of him plowing through the buildings like in the manga and what little we see are still frames. They never animate a single moment of Machia going through a building, they just have him run through a cloud of dust in one shot.
Honestly not a bad scene and I didn't even notice at first. Just something I noticed when watching it back.
Shigaraki's body splitting open is done as well as they could given the censorship. They completely removed the scene of Mirko being carried away and the flashback of Shiggy being 75% done. I don't like that they're removing those kind of scenes, just like how they removed Bakugo destroying one of the bullets.
The flashback was done perfectly, not that hard to do since it was mostly talking. But after that we go into the 100% smash barrage and... Controversial time.
The initial build up to 100% doesn't destroy Izuku's gloves like it was suppose to. That close up we had of Izuku's fist really should've shown his glove get shredded, since his outfit not being destroyed makes 100% look inconsistent. His glove is just gone in the next shot, we don't see it destroyed.
The sound effects are nice and we could hear his three rapid hits. While the initial hit was a still frame, the shockwave from those smashes and Izuku's turn around to keep going was beautiful. The 100% barrage we get after is weird to me. In terms of how it's animated, Izuku moves fluidly and I can tell this took a lot of effort. It's very well animated and I think they really are trying here. There are no still frames and they bounce around in the air.
The actual impact of his "100%" hits feels off. The Detroit Smash had little effects and his Wyoming Smashes were just multiple hand chops that didn't do anything. Shigaraki's line about how he'll go down if he stops defending sounds off when the hits don't convey a sense of power.
I didn't feel hyped up watching him land those first attacks on Shiggy and I wasn't feeling those smashes. I think I need to see this more and maybe it'll grow on me. I didn't hate it at all, but it wasn't what I was expecting. Hard to believe these are my own feelings about the episode.
Edit: I think my issue is that I was expecting something impossible. If I had normal expectations I would've loved this moment.
The animation continues to be done very well. Izuku's Texas Smash on the other hand was amazing all around.
Endeavor's Prominence Burn was done amazingly and Shigaraki's voice actor sells the agony of being burned alive. Also AFO taking over Shigaraki's body is chilling with that tv effect at the end, like Shiggy's been turned off. Super creepy.
We don't see Bakugo get impaled, we just cut to a shot of him already being skewered. I'd prefer to see the stab but I don't mind this.
We have a nice new ending visuals with Bakugo, as I expected. All in all this was a damn fine episode. The preview last week had me scared but it didn't even come close to being disappointing. Just very weird for some moments I was looking forward to. But I wasn't disappointed at all.
Note: Forgot to mention but Bakugo's quick use of Cluster was done with rainbow colors, and I kind of hope that's how they'll actually animate his Cluster. With rainbow/star effects, it looked really good and got me excited to see his Cluster in the future.
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Well, Shigaraki was distracted so I doubt Mirio's getting higher than Superhuman.
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Just downscale him from class T and call it a day
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Has anyone calculated speed deku in the latest manga?
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Nothing, that isn't a feat in the slightest.
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Is this calculation acceptable? I'm confused after reading it.
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As far as i know no calcs have been approved yet.
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Mirio should be Class 5 for being stronger than Base Deku
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Sure.
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That episode was the definition of Mid Hero Academia
Holy shit what a disappointment. Still frames galor. They really decided to give all the budget to Mirko. Looks like Season 6 continues the downfall of the series.
Holy shit what a disappointment. Still frames galor. They really decided to give all the budget to Mirko. Looks like Season 6 continues the downfall of the series.
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That’s what was said about Season 6 when Season 5 was going on
Really think about it. All Might vs a Random Ass Nomu, Mirko vs High Ends, Iida vs Class B… All these things are far better animated then the absolute disappointment that was Deku vs Shigaraki… I mean jesus christ they really don’t give a **** anymore
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The biggest problem is that pretty much this entire season is all action. No school time episodes to fit in between.
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But then mfs will start complaining "tHeRE's ToO mUCh FiLTeR" then.
You can't really win tbh.
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