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The purpose of this thread is to deal with the pokedex and non-Pokémon powers, as the Arceus CRT focused way more in the moves themselves rather than those topics, so we decided to organize the arguments in the OP alongside new ones, rather than relying on people finding all of them across 9 pages and dozens of comments, especially since they are directly connected, so they need to be compiled.
Because of that, simply bringing up the CRT will not suffice as those topics were not focused enough, new arguments came and one of the rejected points is being brought up in a different way, so please focus on the OP rather than the last thread
Going off here, and quote:
Justification Subjective Reality (With Unown's power, one can make anything and can be anything. They're capable of making new realities, altering the world using thoughts and dreams of others. Amongst them being able to recreate landscapes from picture books, making breathable water, and generally manifest the dreams of Hale. Made it night time for an entire week in a town)
Duplication and Power Mimicry ( Could create Pokémon with the same exact power, stats and skills although they're not as smart as the original. They could recreate the exact same Pokemon except stronger than the original)
Arceus
Elemental Intangibility (Appeared to the player as light throughout the opening sequence of PLA)
Dream Manipulation And Subjective Reality (Eternal Battle Reverie is accessed by going to sleep and meeting Arceus in a dream, with Pokemon being able to gain exp, evolve and players wake up with items they won in the dream. Every Dream in Pokemon another reality, and characters can physically enter the dreams of others if they have the means to do so. Also seen when Drowzee sent two Pokemon into Azurill's dream. The Dream world, where dreams manifest is its own plane of reality and is separated from the main reality by Interdream Zone. Evidence to this was when Palkia's spatial distortion caused Pokemon dreams to manifest in reality )
Creation (Can create Pokémon to fight the Trainers. This includes powerful Pokémon like Origin Form Dialga /Palkia, and even Unown )
Durability Negation (One of the wishes the player can choose is to sacrifice HP of Pokemon)
Healing (Can heal HP and PP to max under player request in Eternal Battle Reverie)
Resistance Negation (Can inflict status condition on Pokemon regardless of whether its Type makes them Immune to them in Eternal Battle Reverie.)
Existence Erasure (Volo was planning to subjugate Arceus power in order to erase the universe and only failed when the player defeated him. Upscaled from the Creation Trio who are parts of him and could erase the concept of spirit)
Technology Manipulation (Created the Arc Phone for the player, which can mark locations the player has to visit, materialize caves out of nowhere, amongst others)
Power Bestowal ( Nobel Pokemon are blessed by Arceus, and are under his protection, hence they cannot be caught, and they're larger and stronger than their species )
Acausality(Type 1. Unaffected by changes in history unless he allows them)
Stamina Justification: Limitless (Arceus tells the player that they can fight for as long as they wish it. This is also supported by the name of the challenge, being the Eternal Battle Reverie)
ORIGINAL SPIRIT
Omnipresence (It exists in everything and nowhere at once, and observes all creation from all creation)
Intelligence ( Omniscient. It sees everything due to his nature of omnipresence. The concept of knowledge, Uxie, one of the 3 that make Spirit, is an extension of his Avatar)
Abstract Existence (Type 1. It exists purely as a Heart; 心, Primordial Consciousness that is both immanent within the multiverse as well as beyond its boundaries. Arceus is a manifestation of it)
NB: The word for Heart "kokoro", is used mostly to refer to the metaphysical existence that represents a human being, that is, what you would call a soul, or a mind. In the context of Pokemon, Heart is used Interchangeably with Mind or Spirit and it means the same thing, Awareness/Perception
Agree: (11) @Thelastmlg, @theultimate5105, @Arceus0x , @y3p_owo, @Nanashi, @GyroNutz, @LephyrTheRevanchist, @Elizhaa, @FinePoint, @Zencha9 , @Executor_N0
Disagree: (2) @Iamunanimousinthat (Agrees with Unown stuff, Agrees with the rests besides all verse powers, resistance to causality hax and infinite Stamina), @InfiniteDay (Agrees with everything else)
Neutral: @Everything12
Because of that, simply bringing up the CRT will not suffice as those topics were not focused enough, new arguments came and one of the rejected points is being brought up in a different way, so please focus on the OP rather than the last thread
Going off here, and quote:
So this thread is being made for that purposeSomething like the idea itself is acceptable but the actually giving someone all the powers in the verse would require a personalized CRT.
FOUNDATION OF THE UNIVERSE AND ESSENCE / CONCEPT OF TYPES
Let's look at the definition of Essence;
"Essence is the property or set of properties that make an entity or object what it fundamentally is, and without it, ceases to exist as that entity or object."
So, at once we know it's the fundamental building block of something. Alright
Each Plate Contains the Essence of a Type. The Fundamental building blocks of every power that has been shown in the series, or everything at all in the series. The Plates represents aspects of reality, and Pokemon are born to control them. From Essence of Water, Earth, Fire, all the way to Soul, Mind, Normalcy, Darkness and even Fighting Spirit. With this power, Pokemon are able to summon the sun, rain, comets, borrow power from the celestial bodies, create mental worlds, access spiritual worlds amongst many other supernatural things.
I visited several Japanese websites to get the actual context/semantics/nuances behind a statement that was left vague in the English version. This one: “The power of plates is shared amongst Pokemon”. Here is the actual context from Native Japanese Speakers using the Japanese version of that statement. I'm using Deepl, since it’s the accepted translator app on the wiki:
a. みどりのプレート
「うまれてくる ポケモン プレートの ちから わけあたえられる」
⇒アルセウスが他のポケモン達にタイプを与えている描写だと思われます。
Green Plate
"Pokémon that are born can be assigned to any type of Pokémon plate."
⇒This is supposed to be a depiction of Arceus giving types to other Pokémon. (https://3secondsgameover.com/e/pokekousatsu05)
b. その次の生まれてくるポケモンのくだりで分け与えられた力は、ポケモンのタイプであると考えられる
The power shared by the Pokémon born after that is considered to be the Pokémon's type. (https://deoxi.at.webry.info/200705/article_11.html)
c. プレートの力(=タイプ)はすべてアルセウスからの授け物と記した神話の内容。真実は定かではない。
The myth states that all the power (=type) of the plate is a gift from Arceus. The truth is not certain. https://monsterya.com/archives/2022_02_07_28611264/.html8)
d. 昔の人々は、ポケモンが持つタイプの起源がプレートにあると考えたのだろう。
People in the past would have thought that the types that Pokémon have originated in the plate. (https://shirotama.xyz/rfm/pokemon12.html)
e. アルセウスは宇宙そのものを作り出した神(ポケモンや人間よりも高次の存在)であり、ミュウがポケモン世界の舞台となる惑星に最初に産まれた始祖のポケモンという解釈が可能となっている。
ポケモンの力=タイプは、アルセウスが宇宙を生み出した際に結晶化したプレートから分け与えられたものとされている点も、この解釈を肯定している。
It is possible to interpret Arceus as the god who created the universe itself (a higher being than Pokémon and humans) and Mew as the first Pokémon born on the planet where the Pokémon world is set. This interpretation is also supported by the fact that Pokémon's power = type is said to be shared from the plate that crystallized when Arceus created the universe. (https://dic.pixiv.net/a/アルセウス)
f. 続く文章はアルセウスの特性「マルチタイプ」と、ポケモンのタイプについての言及になる。全てのポケモンは、必ずタイプを持っている。ポケモン達の火や水を使う力はプレートが与えたもの……アルセウスの特性を通じて、人はポケモンのタイプの起源がプレートにあると考えるようになったのだろう。
The following sentence will be a reference to Arceus' characteristic "multi-type" and the Pokémon's type. All Pokémon always have a type. The Pokémon's power to use fire and water was given to them by the plate. ...... Through Arceus' characteristic, people may have come to believe that the origin of Pokémon types is in the plate.
And so with that we can understand what the English version is trying to say, which is more explicit;
"The powers of Plates are shared among Pokémon."
NB: Under the power bestowal page, bestowing powers to other doesn't mean you can grant it to yourself, but here, the plates already possess all said powers, it is rather simply sharing it's own powers.
And it gets more interesting because also finally got a translator to translate what the Japanese version had to say about the Legend Plate, to back up the official English version
Credits go to @ExecutorN0 for the translation
Legend Plate
“A slate that holds the power of all things/all creation. When used on a Pokemon, it gains the power of all Types/every Type's powers.”
Some important keywords:
First from "万物の力" (Power of All Things/All Creation/Everything)
万物 (banbutsu), means everything as all of creation, all that exists, the entire universe.
力 (Chikara). I know this one is the source of the discussion because some people say it means only "energy" or vaguely "power", but it can also include special abilities and similar things. It's one of those terms that can be used in various ways in fiction and can how it's used in tropes can give specific meanings you don't find in dictionaries. For example, in Digimon Tamers the process where Digimon absorb each other (Load) and gain their special abilities is referred to by Konaka as "能力を継承" (Inherit Ability) and is defined as "Can use their powers yourself" (その力を自分で使えるんだ). So yes, Chikara (Power, Strength) can also be used to refer to special abilities and similar things, it's a vague word and isn't always going to be used with that meaning, but it can be used if the context is there.
And finally
あらゆる タイプ の 力 (Power of Every Type/ Every Type's power)
あらゆる (arayuru) means "Every, all"
タイプ is literally Type as written in Katakana and finally 力 is the same one I mentioned before.
With "の" as the possessive particle, you could understand "The Power/s of Every Type" or "Every Type's Power".
Let’s piece this together
1. Each Plate Contains the Essense of a Type. Essence being the set of properties that makes something what it fundamentally is.
2. The Typing of Pokemon originates from the Plates, which, as mentioned above, holds the essence of the Type, and allows Pokemon to use supernatural powers
3. The Legend Plate has the power of everything, a broad statement encompassing the capabilities of everything in the universe. This allows its users to gain every type’s powers for logical reasons as listed in points 1 and 2.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
1. The Plates are fragments of Arceus. And it’s from using said powers of plates that he used to create the universe.
2. Arceus is an Almighty/Omnipotent God. Omnipotence meaning having unlimited power. At least in the context of the verse that is. In fact ‘Almighty’ was mentioned more than a 100 times in PLA. Almighty being having the power to do everything. Something that lends itself to the Legend Plate having all powers.
3. Arceus can infinitely create Pokemon at varying levels/moveset in the reverie to fight the player, using the same plates powers that holds the essence of each type
CONSEQUENCES OF THIS
The restriction to only moves doesn’t work once you factor in what I mentioned above. Now it goes like this:
a. ‘ Power of all things’ only means possessing the type and thats it' ie. Game mechanics depiction of Multitype, which is to change his type and the type of his “Judgement” move. If we go with game mechanics then you're right, untrue outside of it. Arceus has shown spamming various moves after accessing the various plates. Something that was also shown in the anime, nothing that happened here is something Arceus can canonically do in gameplay with his ability. Neither is this, yes canonically he cannot use light to bless Pokemon, with more power. God being restrained by game mechanics doesn’t make him limited outside of it, going by lore, showings, cutscenes and interviews surrounding him. There is a page made specifically for game mechanics.
b. 'Power of all things‘ only means all moves and nothing else’. Basically what you're saying is that power of all things only allows him to do some things, with you deciding that it only means moves and nothing else. This is purely headcannon against what the source material has said and I'm not even sure why it was allowed to get through at all. Arceus has used these same plates for many, many feats beyond just moves. Let's take a history lesson on some of the things Arceus has done. Erasing things out of existence and bringing things back into existence, creating a copy of himself for the player to use, Making Nobel Pokémon more powerful by blessing them, Arc Phone, Sending player back in time in PLA, time stop, halting history/Causality manipulation, dream Manipulation/subject reality, the space globe that has the ability to pass through space and time, Origin Ore containing Arceus power and used to make a Pokeball to capture Dialga/Palkia, the existence of the multiverse as a whole, the whole thing about eternal battle reverie, recreating Pokémon to fight the player at various levels , nullifying all attacks, using the attacks of the plate he assumes, the whole thing about omnipotent which gives him several abilities, Creating and sealing Giratina in the Distortion well as well as giving humans the power to seal Hoopa, causing unstoppable space-time distortion, nullifying time paradoxes in pmd, Creating The CT, everything about the red chain, is implied to have made the Destiny Tower which removes all items and money, and reduces one to their lowest levels and reverts all skills, moves, stats, and abilities upon entering, Everything that happened in JOL. The Flame Plate has its own respect thread. Everything here is something he canonically cannot do under game mechanics.
c. Finally, the million-dollar question. How is Arceus using many powers beyond just moves? And the answer is very simple. It’s written on the Legend Plate and supports his status as the omnipotent/almighty being of his verse. Also supported by the fact that all Pokémon literally downscale from the plates, which is the source of their powers.
POKEDEX
Firstly, what people may not know, is that the elements of the type are built into the Genetic structure of Pokemon:
1. For instance, traces of Dragon Cells in Magikarp's cells<https://pokemonthenovel.dreamwidth.org/380.html>, hinting at its evolutionary Draconic nature and usage of several Dragon Moves
2. Mew having the DNA of every Pokémon, allowing it to use all types of moves.
<Because it is able to use every move, there are many scientists who believe that it is the ancestor of all Pokémon.>
<Its DNA is said to contain the genetic codes of all Pokémon, so it can use all kinds of techniques.>
3. Vaporeon cells have a composition that is similar to water molecules, Jolteon cells emit electric charges that allow it to use electric moves, Leafeon has cells similar to plants and its because of Eevee's unstable genetic makeup that allows it to have diverse Typings
4.Beldum's cell composition is magnetic
5.Chinchou cells generate electricity as well
6.Ditto can change it’s molecular structure to transform into a perfect copy of an opponent, with their powers and all
7.Heleoptile cells generate electricity
8.Castform cells are exactly like those of water Molecules
And that's not all, Pokémon can be born from anything at all: negative emotions, particles in the air, rocks, poison, energy and so on. A Pokémon dies and can choose to return as a Ghost Type . Humans are responsible for many inorganic Pokémon as well. In fact a deep attachment to an inanimate object can bring them to life as Pokémon:
Each plate corresponds to an aspect of the Pokémon reality, and these powers are built into Pokémon DNA. In other words, everything a Pokémon can do is all thanks to the power of plates, whether abilities/moves or others. Result? Psychic Pokémon using psychic powers are all originating from the mind plate, Ghost Types using Spiritual powers are all Originating from spooky plate, Dark Types using darkness related powers are all originating from dread plate, each plate holding the blueprint of the type. There’s no “new techniques learned outside the plates”, its rather limitations built into the genes of each Pokémon that is born. For instance, Mewtwo and Unown are both psychic Pokémon who use psychic powers, but Unown can warp reality on a huge scale, while mewtwo can’t really do that, and can never learn to do that. Pikachu cannot produce infinite electricity but Zapdos can, and Pika cannot learn to because its genetic structure does not support that. Pokemon are limited by how much power, as well as the nature of power they are given from the source, being the plates.
Pokemon manipulate psychic energy to use their powers, lets use pokedex entries of some psychic Pokemon, who use psychic energy for stuff.
Armarogue
To conclude, everything a Pokémon does is attributed to their molecular structures, being composed of at least 1 of the 18 elements, and as such, there’s no power/ability/move they're using that is independent of it. All these 18 elements is traced back to the fragments of Arceus, which holds the essence of these powers and as shown in several media, he’s used these powers to achieve many feats outside just moves.
NON POKEMON
"But Arceus didn't create Dark Matter”. Ah, yes, Arceus also didn’t create most Pokémon either. In fact, Arceus directly created only 6 Pokémon. Still doesn’t change the fact that the source/origin of their powers is from the plates. Arceus did not directly create Porygon but it uses Psychic powers, and the Essence of Psychic Energy is in The Mind Plate
The Universe Created Dark Matter. And even as the Pokémon said, everything is born in the universe. And what is the Origin of It all?
In the same game Dark Matter appeared, it's mentioned at the very beginning that everything Originates from A source, whether stars, skies or Pokémon, everything is connected. And who is that Source? Well, at the Top of Destiny Tower, the same game Dark Matter appeared, is a Statue of Arceus, and on it its mentioned that he created everything
"Humans are clearly exempt because they’re not Pokémon". There’s this misconception that Arceus didn’t directly create something so he doesn’t have their powers. This is completely false. Arceus has the essence of the powers that everyone users, literally the blueprint of every power in the universe. He already has your powers before, now and forever, is it psychic powers, spiritual or even magical? He has them, that’s just Mind, Spooky and Pixie Plate. Sabrina, arguably the best human Psychic in the series, directly says that all humans have Psychic powers, they just don't realize it. Armarouge's psychic powers come from the Armor of a warrior, manipulating the psychic energy and fire energy for moves, both of which Arceus has the essence of as well. Arceus directly gave humans psychic powers powerful enough to seal Hoopa. Yes, they’re not Pokémon. In the episode hocus pocus, a girl can cast magic spells with spell books. Humans can read and control the same aura power as Lucario in Lucario and the mystery of mew, Olympia can see the future. The plates are the foundation of everything. It just so happens that Pokémon are the widely known users of these supernatural powers. Case in point, the plates are not restricted to just Pokémon. Psychic powers, magical, spiritual, elemental based powers, the plates have the essence of it all, and anyone and everyone could use it, granted they have the means to do
Which is why the plates never limits itself to Pokémon. Let’s take the Mind Plate, and every plate follows this formula:
It never says he gains the power of Psychic Type Pokémon, which would have limited him to just Pokémon, but rather it’s the power of the psychic type, encompassing any power with psychic properties. And this is for logical reasons as its not just Pokémon who use these supernatural powers, but humans, robots, data beings, amongst other things. Arceus wouldn’t be able to give humans the ability to use supernatural powers if the Plates were only restricted to Pokemon.
"Essence is the property or set of properties that make an entity or object what it fundamentally is, and without it, ceases to exist as that entity or object."
So, at once we know it's the fundamental building block of something. Alright
Each Plate Contains the Essence of a Type. The Fundamental building blocks of every power that has been shown in the series, or everything at all in the series. The Plates represents aspects of reality, and Pokemon are born to control them. From Essence of Water, Earth, Fire, all the way to Soul, Mind, Normalcy, Darkness and even Fighting Spirit. With this power, Pokemon are able to summon the sun, rain, comets, borrow power from the celestial bodies, create mental worlds, access spiritual worlds amongst many other supernatural things.
I visited several Japanese websites to get the actual context/semantics/nuances behind a statement that was left vague in the English version. This one: “The power of plates is shared amongst Pokemon”. Here is the actual context from Native Japanese Speakers using the Japanese version of that statement. I'm using Deepl, since it’s the accepted translator app on the wiki:
a. みどりのプレート
「うまれてくる ポケモン プレートの ちから わけあたえられる」
⇒アルセウスが他のポケモン達にタイプを与えている描写だと思われます。
Green Plate
"Pokémon that are born can be assigned to any type of Pokémon plate."
⇒This is supposed to be a depiction of Arceus giving types to other Pokémon. (https://3secondsgameover.com/e/pokekousatsu05)
b. その次の生まれてくるポケモンのくだりで分け与えられた力は、ポケモンのタイプであると考えられる
The power shared by the Pokémon born after that is considered to be the Pokémon's type. (https://deoxi.at.webry.info/200705/article_11.html)
c. プレートの力(=タイプ)はすべてアルセウスからの授け物と記した神話の内容。真実は定かではない。
The myth states that all the power (=type) of the plate is a gift from Arceus. The truth is not certain. https://monsterya.com/archives/2022_02_07_28611264/.html8)
d. 昔の人々は、ポケモンが持つタイプの起源がプレートにあると考えたのだろう。
People in the past would have thought that the types that Pokémon have originated in the plate. (https://shirotama.xyz/rfm/pokemon12.html)
e. アルセウスは宇宙そのものを作り出した神(ポケモンや人間よりも高次の存在)であり、ミュウがポケモン世界の舞台となる惑星に最初に産まれた始祖のポケモンという解釈が可能となっている。
ポケモンの力=タイプは、アルセウスが宇宙を生み出した際に結晶化したプレートから分け与えられたものとされている点も、この解釈を肯定している。
It is possible to interpret Arceus as the god who created the universe itself (a higher being than Pokémon and humans) and Mew as the first Pokémon born on the planet where the Pokémon world is set. This interpretation is also supported by the fact that Pokémon's power = type is said to be shared from the plate that crystallized when Arceus created the universe. (https://dic.pixiv.net/a/アルセウス)
f. 続く文章はアルセウスの特性「マルチタイプ」と、ポケモンのタイプについての言及になる。全てのポケモンは、必ずタイプを持っている。ポケモン達の火や水を使う力はプレートが与えたもの……アルセウスの特性を通じて、人はポケモンのタイプの起源がプレートにあると考えるようになったのだろう。
The following sentence will be a reference to Arceus' characteristic "multi-type" and the Pokémon's type. All Pokémon always have a type. The Pokémon's power to use fire and water was given to them by the plate. ...... Through Arceus' characteristic, people may have come to believe that the origin of Pokémon types is in the plate.
And so with that we can understand what the English version is trying to say, which is more explicit;
"The powers of Plates are shared among Pokémon."
NB: Under the power bestowal page, bestowing powers to other doesn't mean you can grant it to yourself, but here, the plates already possess all said powers, it is rather simply sharing it's own powers.
And it gets more interesting because also finally got a translator to translate what the Japanese version had to say about the Legend Plate, to back up the official English version
Credits go to @ExecutorN0 for the translation
Legend Plate
“A slate that holds the power of all things/all creation. When used on a Pokemon, it gains the power of all Types/every Type's powers.”
Some important keywords:
First from "万物の力" (Power of All Things/All Creation/Everything)
万物 (banbutsu), means everything as all of creation, all that exists, the entire universe.
力 (Chikara). I know this one is the source of the discussion because some people say it means only "energy" or vaguely "power", but it can also include special abilities and similar things. It's one of those terms that can be used in various ways in fiction and can how it's used in tropes can give specific meanings you don't find in dictionaries. For example, in Digimon Tamers the process where Digimon absorb each other (Load) and gain their special abilities is referred to by Konaka as "能力を継承" (Inherit Ability) and is defined as "Can use their powers yourself" (その力を自分で使えるんだ). So yes, Chikara (Power, Strength) can also be used to refer to special abilities and similar things, it's a vague word and isn't always going to be used with that meaning, but it can be used if the context is there.
And finally
あらゆる タイプ の 力 (Power of Every Type/ Every Type's power)
あらゆる (arayuru) means "Every, all"
タイプ is literally Type as written in Katakana and finally 力 is the same one I mentioned before.
With "の" as the possessive particle, you could understand "The Power/s of Every Type" or "Every Type's Power".
Let’s piece this together
1. Each Plate Contains the Essense of a Type. Essence being the set of properties that makes something what it fundamentally is.
2. The Typing of Pokemon originates from the Plates, which, as mentioned above, holds the essence of the Type, and allows Pokemon to use supernatural powers
3. The Legend Plate has the power of everything, a broad statement encompassing the capabilities of everything in the universe. This allows its users to gain every type’s powers for logical reasons as listed in points 1 and 2.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT
1. The Plates are fragments of Arceus. And it’s from using said powers of plates that he used to create the universe.
2. Arceus is an Almighty/Omnipotent God. Omnipotence meaning having unlimited power. At least in the context of the verse that is. In fact ‘Almighty’ was mentioned more than a 100 times in PLA. Almighty being having the power to do everything. Something that lends itself to the Legend Plate having all powers.
3. Arceus can infinitely create Pokemon at varying levels/moveset in the reverie to fight the player, using the same plates powers that holds the essence of each type
CONSEQUENCES OF THIS
The restriction to only moves doesn’t work once you factor in what I mentioned above. Now it goes like this:
a. ‘ Power of all things’ only means possessing the type and thats it' ie. Game mechanics depiction of Multitype, which is to change his type and the type of his “Judgement” move. If we go with game mechanics then you're right, untrue outside of it. Arceus has shown spamming various moves after accessing the various plates. Something that was also shown in the anime, nothing that happened here is something Arceus can canonically do in gameplay with his ability. Neither is this, yes canonically he cannot use light to bless Pokemon, with more power. God being restrained by game mechanics doesn’t make him limited outside of it, going by lore, showings, cutscenes and interviews surrounding him. There is a page made specifically for game mechanics.
b. 'Power of all things‘ only means all moves and nothing else’. Basically what you're saying is that power of all things only allows him to do some things, with you deciding that it only means moves and nothing else. This is purely headcannon against what the source material has said and I'm not even sure why it was allowed to get through at all. Arceus has used these same plates for many, many feats beyond just moves. Let's take a history lesson on some of the things Arceus has done. Erasing things out of existence and bringing things back into existence, creating a copy of himself for the player to use, Making Nobel Pokémon more powerful by blessing them, Arc Phone, Sending player back in time in PLA, time stop, halting history/Causality manipulation, dream Manipulation/subject reality, the space globe that has the ability to pass through space and time, Origin Ore containing Arceus power and used to make a Pokeball to capture Dialga/Palkia, the existence of the multiverse as a whole, the whole thing about eternal battle reverie, recreating Pokémon to fight the player at various levels , nullifying all attacks, using the attacks of the plate he assumes, the whole thing about omnipotent which gives him several abilities, Creating and sealing Giratina in the Distortion well as well as giving humans the power to seal Hoopa, causing unstoppable space-time distortion, nullifying time paradoxes in pmd, Creating The CT, everything about the red chain, is implied to have made the Destiny Tower which removes all items and money, and reduces one to their lowest levels and reverts all skills, moves, stats, and abilities upon entering, Everything that happened in JOL. The Flame Plate has its own respect thread. Everything here is something he canonically cannot do under game mechanics.
c. Finally, the million-dollar question. How is Arceus using many powers beyond just moves? And the answer is very simple. It’s written on the Legend Plate and supports his status as the omnipotent/almighty being of his verse. Also supported by the fact that all Pokémon literally downscale from the plates, which is the source of their powers.
“A Slate that holds the power of all things. When used on a Pokémon, it gains every Type’s powers”
POKEDEX
Firstly, what people may not know, is that the elements of the type are built into the Genetic structure of Pokemon:
1. For instance, traces of Dragon Cells in Magikarp's cells<https://pokemonthenovel.dreamwidth.org/380.html>, hinting at its evolutionary Draconic nature and usage of several Dragon Moves
2. Mew having the DNA of every Pokémon, allowing it to use all types of moves.
<Because it is able to use every move, there are many scientists who believe that it is the ancestor of all Pokémon.>
<Its DNA is said to contain the genetic codes of all Pokémon, so it can use all kinds of techniques.>
3. Vaporeon cells have a composition that is similar to water molecules, Jolteon cells emit electric charges that allow it to use electric moves, Leafeon has cells similar to plants and its because of Eevee's unstable genetic makeup that allows it to have diverse Typings
4.Beldum's cell composition is magnetic
5.Chinchou cells generate electricity as well
6.Ditto can change it’s molecular structure to transform into a perfect copy of an opponent, with their powers and all
7.Heleoptile cells generate electricity
8.Castform cells are exactly like those of water Molecules
And that's not all, Pokémon can be born from anything at all: negative emotions, particles in the air, rocks, poison, energy and so on. A Pokémon dies and can choose to return as a Ghost Type . Humans are responsible for many inorganic Pokémon as well. In fact a deep attachment to an inanimate object can bring them to life as Pokémon:
<But why would it turn up once you had forgotten it?
Dr. Watson had a hypothesis. It wasn't a case of you finding it, but the forgotten item wanting to be found.
You had loved it once and treated it well and it had come out wanting to meet you again.
Basically, inanimate objects, though lacking a soul, had the potential to develop something similar to one. >
Each plate corresponds to an aspect of the Pokémon reality, and these powers are built into Pokémon DNA. In other words, everything a Pokémon can do is all thanks to the power of plates, whether abilities/moves or others. Result? Psychic Pokémon using psychic powers are all originating from the mind plate, Ghost Types using Spiritual powers are all Originating from spooky plate, Dark Types using darkness related powers are all originating from dread plate, each plate holding the blueprint of the type. There’s no “new techniques learned outside the plates”, its rather limitations built into the genes of each Pokémon that is born. For instance, Mewtwo and Unown are both psychic Pokémon who use psychic powers, but Unown can warp reality on a huge scale, while mewtwo can’t really do that, and can never learn to do that. Pikachu cannot produce infinite electricity but Zapdos can, and Pika cannot learn to because its genetic structure does not support that. Pokemon are limited by how much power, as well as the nature of power they are given from the source, being the plates.
Pokemon manipulate psychic energy to use their powers, lets use pokedex entries of some psychic Pokemon, who use psychic energy for stuff.
Armarogue
GardevoirArmarouge’s set of armor belonged to a distinguished warrior, and is the source of the energy used for its Psychic-type moves. It also uses the psychic capabilities of this armor to control the fire energy within its body and unleash attacks.
And yes, that psychic energy can be traced back to the mind plate which has the essence of Psychic energy.Gardevoir has the ability to read the future. If it senses impending danger to its Trainer, this Pokémon is said to unleash its psychokinetic energy at full power.
To conclude, everything a Pokémon does is attributed to their molecular structures, being composed of at least 1 of the 18 elements, and as such, there’s no power/ability/move they're using that is independent of it. All these 18 elements is traced back to the fragments of Arceus, which holds the essence of these powers and as shown in several media, he’s used these powers to achieve many feats outside just moves.
By examining the chemical properties of unearthed fossils, we can determine the era they lived in.
However this method does not work with Pokémon.
This isn't common knowledge, but it's impossible to detect the chemical make up of a Pokémon's body.
As such, when a Pokémon fossil is discovered on occasion, we are unable to determine the time period it lived in, unlike other fossils.
This isn't the only difference between Pokémon and other creatures. The molecular geometry of a Pokémon's body is also different to that of other creatures.
Basically, Pokémon are highly mysterious creatures.
In regards to the origins of Pokémon, researchers can only say one thing for certain.
NON POKEMON
"But Arceus didn't create Dark Matter”. Ah, yes, Arceus also didn’t create most Pokémon either. In fact, Arceus directly created only 6 Pokémon. Still doesn’t change the fact that the source/origin of their powers is from the plates. Arceus did not directly create Porygon but it uses Psychic powers, and the Essence of Psychic Energy is in The Mind Plate
The Universe Created Dark Matter. And even as the Pokémon said, everything is born in the universe. And what is the Origin of It all?
In the same game Dark Matter appeared, it's mentioned at the very beginning that everything Originates from A source, whether stars, skies or Pokémon, everything is connected. And who is that Source? Well, at the Top of Destiny Tower, the same game Dark Matter appeared, is a Statue of Arceus, and on it its mentioned that he created everything
"Humans are clearly exempt because they’re not Pokémon". There’s this misconception that Arceus didn’t directly create something so he doesn’t have their powers. This is completely false. Arceus has the essence of the powers that everyone users, literally the blueprint of every power in the universe. He already has your powers before, now and forever, is it psychic powers, spiritual or even magical? He has them, that’s just Mind, Spooky and Pixie Plate. Sabrina, arguably the best human Psychic in the series, directly says that all humans have Psychic powers, they just don't realize it. Armarouge's psychic powers come from the Armor of a warrior, manipulating the psychic energy and fire energy for moves, both of which Arceus has the essence of as well. Arceus directly gave humans psychic powers powerful enough to seal Hoopa. Yes, they’re not Pokémon. In the episode hocus pocus, a girl can cast magic spells with spell books. Humans can read and control the same aura power as Lucario in Lucario and the mystery of mew, Olympia can see the future. The plates are the foundation of everything. It just so happens that Pokémon are the widely known users of these supernatural powers. Case in point, the plates are not restricted to just Pokémon. Psychic powers, magical, spiritual, elemental based powers, the plates have the essence of it all, and anyone and everyone could use it, granted they have the means to do
Which is why the plates never limits itself to Pokémon. Let’s take the Mind Plate, and every plate follows this formula:
“A stone tablet imbued with the essence of psychic energy. When used on a certain Pokémon, it allows that Pokémon to gain the power of the Psychic Type.”
It never says he gains the power of Psychic Type Pokémon, which would have limited him to just Pokémon, but rather it’s the power of the psychic type, encompassing any power with psychic properties. And this is for logical reasons as its not just Pokémon who use these supernatural powers, but humans, robots, data beings, amongst other things. Arceus wouldn’t be able to give humans the ability to use supernatural powers if the Plates were only restricted to Pokemon.
I made a sandbox encompassing the powers that i came across in the series. This would be linked to his page. You can go through it
UNOWN
Immersion and Limited Abstract Existence (Type 1. To escape Team Rocket's attack, Unown merged with Larvitars mind, sent Ash and friends into it and created a mindscape out of it.)Justification Subjective Reality (With Unown's power, one can make anything and can be anything. They're capable of making new realities, altering the world using thoughts and dreams of others. Amongst them being able to recreate landscapes from picture books, making breathable water, and generally manifest the dreams of Hale. Made it night time for an entire week in a town)
Duplication and Power Mimicry ( Could create Pokémon with the same exact power, stats and skills although they're not as smart as the original. They could recreate the exact same Pokemon except stronger than the original)
Arceus
Elemental Intangibility (Appeared to the player as light throughout the opening sequence of PLA)
Dream Manipulation And Subjective Reality (Eternal Battle Reverie is accessed by going to sleep and meeting Arceus in a dream, with Pokemon being able to gain exp, evolve and players wake up with items they won in the dream. Every Dream in Pokemon another reality, and characters can physically enter the dreams of others if they have the means to do so. Also seen when Drowzee sent two Pokemon into Azurill's dream. The Dream world, where dreams manifest is its own plane of reality and is separated from the main reality by Interdream Zone. Evidence to this was when Palkia's spatial distortion caused Pokemon dreams to manifest in reality )
Creation (Can create Pokémon to fight the Trainers. This includes powerful Pokémon like Origin Form Dialga /Palkia, and even Unown )
Durability Negation (One of the wishes the player can choose is to sacrifice HP of Pokemon)
Healing (Can heal HP and PP to max under player request in Eternal Battle Reverie)
Resistance Negation (Can inflict status condition on Pokemon regardless of whether its Type makes them Immune to them in Eternal Battle Reverie.)
Existence Erasure (Volo was planning to subjugate Arceus power in order to erase the universe and only failed when the player defeated him. Upscaled from the Creation Trio who are parts of him and could erase the concept of spirit)
Technology Manipulation (Created the Arc Phone for the player, which can mark locations the player has to visit, materialize caves out of nowhere, amongst others)
Power Bestowal ( Nobel Pokemon are blessed by Arceus, and are under his protection, hence they cannot be caught, and they're larger and stronger than their species )
Acausality(Type 1. Unaffected by changes in history unless he allows them)
Stamina Justification: Limitless (Arceus tells the player that they can fight for as long as they wish it. This is also supported by the name of the challenge, being the Eternal Battle Reverie)
ORIGINAL SPIRIT
Omnipresence (It exists in everything and nowhere at once, and observes all creation from all creation)
Intelligence ( Omniscient. It sees everything due to his nature of omnipresence. The concept of knowledge, Uxie, one of the 3 that make Spirit, is an extension of his Avatar)
Abstract Existence (Type 1. It exists purely as a Heart; 心, Primordial Consciousness that is both immanent within the multiverse as well as beyond its boundaries. Arceus is a manifestation of it)
NB: The word for Heart "kokoro", is used mostly to refer to the metaphysical existence that represents a human being, that is, what you would call a soul, or a mind. In the context of Pokemon, Heart is used Interchangeably with Mind or Spirit and it means the same thing, Awareness/Perception
Agree: (11) @Thelastmlg, @theultimate5105, @Arceus0x , @y3p_owo, @Nanashi, @GyroNutz, @LephyrTheRevanchist, @Elizhaa, @FinePoint, @Zencha9 , @Executor_N0
Disagree: (2) @Iamunanimousinthat (Agrees with Unown stuff, Agrees with the rests besides all verse powers, resistance to causality hax and infinite Stamina), @InfiniteDay (Agrees with everything else)
Neutral: @Everything12
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