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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued

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DaReaperMan said:
a shame the vast majority of your profiles aren't good to say the least

Considering some my more recent profiles are at least referenced(Malak and Bierce) and my others are at least serviceable as profiles for the characters(RotMG stuff and the like), unlike those profiles for that verse which suck so much some of my first sandbox profiles are better... and those things sucked so much ass they looked like the back of Shaq's head after the long game.
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Yes, Statesman is a masterpiece.

Seriously, I know many of my old ass profiles need a rework, but they aren't below wiki standards and you also need to consider that I created them when wiki standards were less. References for all abilities only became a requirement very recently. And even today scans for all abilities aren't required.
I also have just a little more profiles than you to manage, in addition to staff stuff, so you will have to excuse me for not getting to everything immediately. When I create profiles today they also usually look better.
 
DontTalkDT said:
Yes, Statesman is a masterpiece.

Seriously, I know many of my old ass profiles need a rework, but they aren't below wiki standards and you also need to consider that I created them when wiki standards were less. References for all abilities only became a requirement very recently. And even today scans for all abilities aren't required.
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And he's serviceable for the time being(and I only released him because it'd be stupid to release Lord Recluse without him), I'm well aware I need to work on City of Heroes, it's not high on my priority list becuase Warcraft is just a thing that exists and the fact Arthas is likely coming to DB certainly isn't helping considering I wanted to tackle him later down the line.

That doesn't change the fact they still suck and probably shouldn't be used mate, it's like saying the old Daemon profiles for 40K or the Elven gods for 40K are fine because they were made in an age standards were less strict, if you want to use these profiles for a top strongest list(which would likely involve versus threads) then at least get them, you know, up to a certain standard. Why do you think I'm not really making Overwatch or City of Heroes matches? I don't feel those profiles are mostly up to standard for nowadays stuff
 
DaReaperMan said:
And he's serviceable for the time being(and I only released him because it'd be stupid to release Lord Recluse without him), I'm well aware I need to work on City of Heroes, it's not high on my priority list becuase Warcraft is just a thing that exists and the fact Arthas is likely coming to DB certainly isn't helping considering I wanted to tackle him later down the line.

That doesn't change the fact they still suck and probably shouldn't be used mate, it's like saying the old Daemon profiles for 40K or the Elven gods for 40K are fine because they were made in an age standards were less strict, if you want to use these profiles for a top strongest list(which would likely involve versus threads) then at least get them, you know, up to a certain standard. Why do you think I'm not really making Overwatch or City of Heroes matches? I don't feel those profiles are mostly up to standard for nowadays stuff
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Well, I disagree. Using them in matches is perfectly fine. Not like adding references the way we do today would really answer the questions anyway. I could add the book references in 3 minutes and it just wouldn't help you without the book or willingness to read through a chapter of story.

One can debate matches like in the old days: Have concerns about a technique? Ask for the quote on the technique. I have no problem with people asking for quotes and stuff, which is why I provided quotes on concept space and Tartaros Machina.
Just asking for quotes for everything is a seriously crappy move. Like 96% of the profiles on the wiki probably don't have quotes for literally everything and you can't tell me that the ability to fire bullets or something is something you seriously doubt.
 
... I feel there is something wrong with that reference section, like there probably was a better way than simply use the same reference 181 times.
 
Anyway replace bunny with dio for High 8-C, dio stomps so badly isn't even fun especially considering that bunny main stupid gimmick, is outclased by dio stupid gimmick
 
Livinmeme said:
Anyway replace bunny with dio for High 8-C, dio stomps so badly isn't even fun especially considering that bunny main stupid gimmick, is outclased by dio stupid gimmick
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Dio has inferior time stop and can only move in Bunny's for 5 seconds. Additionally lacks time reversal resistance entirely, so Bunny would just kill him in negative time.
And Bunny has her resurrections so she can try plenty of times.
 
DontTalkDT said:
Dio has inferior time stop and can only move in Bunny's for 5 seconds. Additionally lacks time reversal resistance entirely, so Bunny would just kill him in negative time.
And Bunny has her resurrections so she can try plenty of times.
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The problem is that bunny really can't ideally kill dio, and if speed is not equalized dio just absulutly destroys here. At best that bunny makes dio into gibs, resumes time, dio regenerates and then proceeds to time stop and destroy her
 
Livinmeme said:
The problem is that bunny really can't ideally kill dio, and if speed is not equalized dio just absulutly destroys here. At best that bunny makes dio into gibs, resumes time, dio regenerates and then proceeds to time stop and destroy her
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Still need to get that revised, dio has no reason to have that level of regen
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Canon Dio needed extra blood to reattach a leg and outright admitted that he would die to his brain being destroyed
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DaReaperMan said:
And then there's inferior vampires recovering from being blown to smithereens lol
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WeeklyBattles said:
Such as? If you're talking about Straizo he was confirmed in-canon to have better regen than Dio
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I swear the limitations of Dio with his brother's body and the "Araki forgot" debate will never end.
 
Livinmeme said:
The problem is that bunny really can't ideally kill dio, and if speed is not equalized dio just absulutly destroys here. At best that bunny makes dio into gibs, resumes time, dio regenerates and then proceeds to time stop and destroy her
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Other stuff people debating aside, speed unequal? Maybe he could take Bunny yeah.
I mean, he would blitz and then Bunny would reverse time to before the fight started. Maybe Bunny could use time shenanigans to not get blitzed the second time.

Speed equal, though? Well, we know how Dio got canonically killed. His regen really isn't so good that Bunny can't defeat him once she has cut his body to pieces once. (or she could just burn him to ash during time stop after he can't move anymore, which his regen doesn't cover)
 
DontTalkDT said:
Other stuff people debating aside, speed unequal? Maybe he could take Bunny yeah.
I mean, he would blitz and then Bunny would reverse time to before the fight started. Maybe Bunny could use time shenanigans to not get blitzed the second time.

Speed equal, though? Well, we know how Dio got canonically killed. His regen really isn't so good that Bunny can't defeat him once she has cut his body to pieces once. (or she could just burn him to ash during time stop after he can't move anymore, which his regen doesn't cover)
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Nah if bunny tries to timestop dio

A. Timestops back
B. Proceeds to beat the loving shit out of bunny duting those 5 seconds

Bunny has no reason to go for fire manipulation as he doesn't know that dio can regen or that he has a scrizophenic pseudo real friend who can break her neck with his far higher LS. Along side that if the match goes for to long dio will eventually get the better TS (Unless bunny timestops is in the hours, wich if it is then R.I.P). Also a far weaker dio has alredy resisted fire (doesn't help that bunny fire manip is listed as limited so is probally shitty), if he gets burned down he will probally go schizo mode and proceeds to barrage the living shit out of bunny during his limited TS resistance

Don't forget that bunny has far less AP
 
So yeah bunny can't really kill dio that quick, specially when dio has several times higher AP and dura, her time reset apperently sends her to "the beggining of the story", so that would probally counts as self BFR. Her only real advantages are

1. Better TS
2. Limited fire manipulation
3. Limited danmaku who probally gets reflected by the world, as most of those are knives who are
A. Far weaker
B. Not heavy
3. Funny 21 lives but that doesn't change the fact that she can't kill dio

Damn if bunny even tries to atack dio, dio can just straigth up freeze her or break her neck
 
From many things of what you said it seem like didn't saw the previous debates involving the bunny, so I would just like to correct one thing from what you said:
Along side that if the match goes for to long dio will eventually get the better TS (Unless bunny timestops is in the hours, wich if it is then R.I.P).
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Her time stop is infinite from what DT commented before.
 
Expectro2000xxx said:
From many things of what you said it seem like didn't saw the previous debates involving the bunny, so I would just like to correct one thing from what you said:

Her time stop is infinite from what DT commented before.
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Oh no no no that would be a misurdestanding, while bunny time stop is ""infinite"" (as far as i know), every time she hits something the time bar goes down, so if she hits dio more than idk 20 times the timestop is over
 
Basically bunny has a really strong timestop but can't be spammed, but dio has a relativelly weak ts that can be spammed
 
Livinmeme said:
Oh no no no that would be a misurdestanding, while bunny time stop is ""infinite"" (as far as i know), every time she hits something the time bar goes down, so if she hits dio more than idk 20 times the timestop is over
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What? From what I gathered, she can time stop indefinitely and just keep fighting forever (According to DT)

If that's not the case, then even Choi Yoon-seok could beat her.
 
I still ain't sure if he should be 8-B, since later chapters have shown that the difference in ranks might not be so great. And he hasn't one shot people on his floor 5 level yet (Except for some level 7 and 8 goons, but even those would lose to his end of level 5 self I'd wager since he was already stronger than people who are higher up than him with no problem)
 
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