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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued

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WeeklyBattles said:
TBH are there scans for this? Im finding next to nothing about this character anywhere online
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I'm in the middle of reading the light novel myself, you can find the whole light novel in English without too much difficulty. So getting scans is only difficult in finding the exact chapter where something happens.

But, yeah. It's not the most popular and well known series. Even among it's sequels only one really has any kind of popularity in the English Fandom because of it's anime.
 
I’m curious, does Ji Ning have any passives/thought based moves that are the reason as to why he’s the 4th strongest non-smurf 4-A?
 
DontTalkDT said:
I mean, I couldn't if he sat at like 6 tons. But if he sits right at the border I kinda can, no?
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Some people just don't like characters upscaling to the next tier despite characters being close eith a scaling chain Which is why I brought it up, but this is getting off topic, so I'll just leave it at that.
 
Okay, so, going through 8-A, some candidates include:

Travis Touchdown
Mori Jin
Baki Hanma
Log Horizon characters?
Alex Mercer
Shattered Dimensions Spider-Man?
IDW Metal Sonic
Kirito?
Danny Phantom
Assorted DnD monsters
 
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Can The Hunter defeat her knowing she has her profile abilities plus those from Ragnarok? Cause thats a lot.
 
That reminds me, she has Reactive Evolution, analytical prediction, regeneration (Low-High), and a lot more. How can the hunter kill her, exactly?
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Again, this relies on the idea that he can hit The Hunter
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Sure it does. Although, perhaps we should do a vs-thread when it comes down to that.

WeeklyBattles said:
Also:

"The machine that separated the will and concept of the citizens and transferred them to the Concept Core, was the Tartaros Machina. While its intended use is for that, since it can also be used on living humans it is theoretically a powerful kind of sealing technique."

So its never actually used it as a form of sealing?
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It was kinda used for that with the 3rd Gear citizens and also basically what happened to Artemis in the end of the fight against Typhon. Although that was when he just received the thing.

WeeklyBattles said:
And this counteracts time reversal?
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Hunter's page says he needs a connection to use that stuff. This cuts the connection.

WeeklyBattles said:
TBH are there scans for this? Im finding next to nothing about this character anywhere online
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I can find scans for stuff. Which stuff exactly do you want scans for, though?
 
DontTalkDT said:
Hunter's page says he needs a connection to use that stuff. This cuts the connection.

I can find scans for stuff. Which stuff exactly do you want scans for, though?
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How does it cut it though? The descriptions you're giving are extremely vague.

Scans for like...everything on the profile. The profile says concept manip working on oth we rs is purely theoretical, can you post scans of it working on others like you claim it does? Or scans of leading with concept manip and it severing outside links that are well above its paygrade and can function across multiple planes of existence
 
"(Able to summon a large swarm of Abyss with her flute-like cries)" - is on her profile. Sacred Eclipse.
 
DaReaperMan said:
Why are we even considering the obscure ass LN character when most things with superior range trash it? Like, 0 ranged options and 0 resistances, with no BS immortality to back it up, when some ******* RWBY characters beat something that's trying to contend for #1 8-A there's a serious problem.
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Who are you talking about? Sacred Eclipse has Tens of Kilometers in range and shiz, immortality type 8, among RE which will make her stronger.

Unless you're talking about another character?

Edit: NVM, I believe you're talking about DontTalk's character.
 
DaReaperMan said:
this thing, it gets ****** by anyone with even half-way decent range.
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Kinda true lol
Although I eventually might do some upgrades to give it kilometers range

Given, if it turns out that the concept space is enough to negate the immortality I could use Typhon instead, who will just erase all offensive moves.
WeeklyBattles said:
How does it cut it though? The descriptions you're giving are extremely vague.

Scans for like...everything on the profile. The profile says concept manip working on oth we rs is purely theoretical, can you post scans of it working on others like you claim it does? Or scans of leading with concept manip and it severing outside links that are well above its paygrade and can function across multiple planes of existence
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I'm not looking up quotes for everything on the profile 🗿

Using Tartaros on others was the entire point. Nobody used it on themselves.
The people who live there live for thousands of years and each individual controls the world’s concepts and has some level of control over the weather and time as well.

When they die, a device known as the Tartaros Machina sends their concept and will to the Concept Core.

The concept stored in the Concept Core is extracted and inherited when a new life is born, but the formless will remains in the Concept Core as it is difficult to individually extract.
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“When they died, was that concept extracted and returned?”

“Not just that. From what I’ve heard, they had a single device that took the wills of those bearing the concepts and stored them in the Concept Core. Do you understand what that means?”

“Their Concept Core worked like an underworld, right?” answered Izumo with little interest in his voice. “When those with the concepts died, their residual will and concept would be stored in the Concept Core. And when a new life was born, the concept would be recycled into them, but the wills would simply accumulate in the Concept Core. That’s an artificial Tartaros.”

“Yes. That is why 3rd-Gear called their Concept Core the Tartaros and called the device sending them there the Tartaros Machina.”
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Heck, they used it to execute traitors.
“I do not know how exactly you are picturing the situation, but that is what happened. At the time, 3rd-Gear was the Gear with the greatest technology in such things.” She closed her eyes. “What you just mentioned was one of the methods used in the initial stage. Almost everyone but the nobles was treated that way. Most of those who disobeyed were sent to the Tartaros Machina, the empty shell of their body had the organs extracted, and the remaining parts were fixed inside a god of war. Once a temporary will was attached, the god of war was sent out to battle.”
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So yeah, it can be used on others.

What concept spaces cutting things of is concerned: This is a conceptually separated space. I'm not sure how much explanation you need for characters without concept manipulation being unable to connect with a space that can only be reached via concept manipulation.
The full explanation of how concept spaces work and what they are is complicated, but here it is.
“When an out of phase space has concepts added to it, it is known as a Concept Space. We think of a concept’s identity as a variable fixed-period vibration wave that we call a string vibration.”

“This just got a lot more complicated. A string vibration, you say?”

Sayama thought.

Ooshiro had said an alternate world was a world with different concepts. In that case…

“So alternate worlds are worlds with different string vibration frequencies?”

“Yes. And everything in any of the worlds has a string vibration for their world and a string vibration for the object itself. The one for the world we call the parent string vibration and the one for the individual we call the child string vibration.”

Sayama nodded and said, “So is it like a numerator and denominator? The denominator tells you what Gear they belong to and the numerator tells you what the individual is.”

“Yes. If the numerator differs, it is a different individual. If the denominator differs, it may be the same existence but from a different world. These alternate worlds are not parallel. They exist in multiple phases atop each other. According to the records, a ‘gate’ that alters one’s parent string vibration is needed to move to and from different Gears.”

Sayama then recalled the invisible wall surrounding the forest.

“This evening…was that a space that’s parent string vibration had been completely altered?”

“Not quite. If its parent string vibration had been completely altered, that space would have completely disappeared from this world. But,” Ooshiro raised his index finger, “what if only a portion of its parent string vibration was altered?”

“In that case, would the altered objects world split into two existences? The real one and the alternate world one would exist on top of each other at the same time. …And that means the objects would not disappear from reality.”

He remembered the stone he had picked up in the forest. He remembered how it had left a pale shadow behind.

“So two versions of that forest existed on top of each other? I am guessing a smaller portion had the alternate world string vibration than the reality string vibration. Could I not leave because of the difference in vibration density?”

“Correct. How very wise of you. That is what we call a Concept Space. It is only a pseudo-alternate world created by borrowing a portion of an area’s string vibration. Since it is still connected to the real world, it is easier to create and return to normal.” As he spoke, Ooshiro showed off the watch on his left arm. “I gave you one of these before we entered this Concept Space. These watches are known as String Watches. They detect the wall of a Concept Space and alter the wearer’s parent string vibration accordingly. They are a small version of the ‘gates’ I mentioned earlier.”

“But how did I enter the Concept Space in the forest without one?”

“Someone secretly read your child string vibration. When the forest was turned into a Concept Space, your string vibration was registered so you would be allowed in. That is one thing that can be done when creating a Concept Space. And I apologize,” said Ooshiro as he looked toward Sayama’s left arm. “It seems we rushed things. We only wanted to let you experience it for yourself, but you ended up getting injured due to the inexperience of our units.”
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So yeah, unless Hunter's Dream and Moon Presence can adjust their child strong vibration, i.e. the concept of the own existence, to be on the same wavelength as the parent string vibration Susamikado chooses (i.e. take part in 3rd Gears concepts) they can't interact with Hunter once he is inside.

As for Susamikado leading with that: A concept space is a requirement for it to use its abilities, because otherwise the concepts necessary for it to do so don't exist in the surroundings. Usually in the series someone else creates such a concept space for Susamikado, but as a concept core user he can do it himself. And will obviously do it as... well, he needs it and it is the standard procedure to not get civilians involved.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
...That is literally the standard for all profiles on the wiki. You are required by the wiki rules to do so.
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Show me a scan of every single thing on the Hunters profile then and I will gladly write that Susamikado respect thread for you. And no wiki entires please. Actual screenshots and videos of everything posted right here.
 
DontTalkDT said:
Show me a scan of every single thing on the Hunters profile then and I will gladly write that Susamikado respect thread for you. And no wiki entires please. Actual screenshots and videos of everything posted right here.
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How about improving those things you call profiles sometime in the next decade? or should we wait for 2032 to roll around before you release them?
 
DontTalkDT said:
Show me a scan of every single thing on the Hunters profile then and I will gladly write that Susamikado respect thread for you. And no wiki entires please. Actual screenshots and videos of everything posted right here.
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...Have you looked at the hunter's profile?
 
WeeklyBattles said:
...Have you looked at the hunter's profile?
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Yes. I looked and found no scan of the Dissipating Lake rune. Or the vast majority of other stuff.

Like, I provide evidence of stuff if you have concrete questions, but "literally quote me everything about the character" is just wasting my time on purpose.
DaReaperMan said:
How about improving those things you call profiles sometime in the next decade? or should we wait for 2032 to roll around before you release them?
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I work on them when I find time and until then keep them up to what the current minimum standards is. Literally just made a revision thread for another verse with 100+ quotes.

You're not the person to throw stones here to begin with. I have seen your profiles 🗿
 
DontTalkDT said:
I work on them when I find time and until then keep them up to what the current minimum standards is. Literally just made a revision thread for another verse with 100+ quotes.

You're not the person to throw stones here to begin with. I have seen your profiles 🗿
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Your profile doesnt even have a weaknesses section my guy...
 
If you REALLY want to split hairs over this I will gladly insert a link to every single thing on the hunter's profile, luckily the entire official game guide is available online so it's not hard at all to do.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
If you REALLY want to split hairs over this I will gladly insert a link to every single thing on the hunter's profile, luckily the entire official game guide is available online so it's not hard at all to do.
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Well you could also just ask what you actually want to know instead of demanding scans on literally everything.

But sure, if you want to continue this, then please do so. And make sure to link to the respective section of the game guide, ok? Otherwise it would be hard to find things~
 
DontTalkDT said:
I work on them when I find time and until then keep them up to what the current minimum standards is. Literally just made a revision thread for another verse with 100+ quotes.

You're not the person to throw stones here to begin with. I have seen your profiles 🗿
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a shame the vast majority of your profiles aren't good to say the least

Considering some my more recent profiles are at least referenced(Malak and Bierce) and my others are at least serviceable as profiles for the characters(RotMG stuff and the like), unlike those profiles for that verse which suck so much some of my first sandbox profiles are better... and those things sucked so much ass they looked like the back of Shaq's head after the long game.
 
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