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Dude.... space radiation isn't unnatural. Just because it's not on Earth doesn't mean is unnatural. Nature isn't some sole proprietary phenomenon owned by our planet.
Mycotoxins are natural toxins and they'll still lead to death, consuming such wouldn't lead to a death of "natural causes", you'd be poisoned.
 
My brothers in christ. Type 1 is quite literally just not dying from aging. That's it, ageless immortality. Nothing else included, that's it.
 
Once again, it is one of the many things radiation causes. Not all affects of radiation are included in radiation sickness 🤨
You sure? I mean nuclear power plants and atom bombs are listed as one of the causes so you’d think it’d cover pretty much all effects of radiation on organic matter.
Stop comparing something that's obviously far beyond conventional disease to conventional disease.
Yeah I’ll agree that this much radiation is beyond conventional disease, Shadow being the ultimate life form and all should also be able to counter unconventional diseases.
 
You sure? I mean nuclear power plants and atom bombs are listed as one of the causes so you’d think it’d cover pretty much all effects of radiation on organic matter.

Yeah I’ll agree that this much radiation is beyond conventional disease, Shadow being the ultimate life form and all should also be able to counter unconventional diseases.
Proof? What you're saying right now sounds like quite the NLF.
 
How much rads does one take upon re-entry or from high powered microwaves 🤔
 
Okay lets sum up the arguments around radiation hax.

Shadow is resistant to it because he resists Anti-matter hax (literally irrelevant and completely different)

Shadow is resistant to it because he has type 1 (literally irrelevant and nonsensical)
 
"type 1 immortality resists things that kill you by natural causes"

A black hole forming and consuming the planet is a natural cause. We should upgrade everyone who doesnt age to 5-A i guess.

Whats the actual wincons for both sides here again? Mainly in shadows case
 
Doom's Eye mentions to Shadow during a fight against Heavy Dog or Blue Falcon that the particle beam cannon will do horrid things to his flesh despite the beam only taking away Rings with no negative side-effects.

proton or ion radiation? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle-beam_weapon
Isn't it to be extrapolated that it works as intended when the Rings system serves as its own unique health bar, given that being attacked without Rings results in death?
 
You do realize dying from natural causes in the instance of Type 1 refers to the natural cause of death that is aging, correct? The thing that every human being succumbs to at some point?

Your arguing is purely semantical, from your point of view anything applied externally that could lead to death is "natural".

This is ridiculous, don't argue this again.
I'm just saying according to what the page says on this.

The page for Immortality literally state this:

"1: Eternal Life: Characters gifted with this type of immortality cannot die from natural causes, such as old age or conventional illness, but can be killed by unnatural causes"

It doesn't only say they just don't age, but also immune to other things that would conventionally kill a human such as diseases and such.

If that's not what it is, maybe the page should be reworded better since your implication isn't what inferred at all
 
I think it more just refers to diseases that cause you to typically age or decay normally, that or its optional.

But still, wats shadows wincon?
 
It doesn't only say they just don't age, but also immune to other things that would conventionally kill a human such as diseases and such.

If that's not what it is, maybe the page should be reworded better since your implication isn't what inferred at all
The crux of the issue is that you're extrapolating it far beyond what that page says, conventional illness entails something as simple as a common cold, not heart disease that ultimately leads to a heart attack.

Your inference is wildly unsubstantiated.
 
Isn't it to be extrapolated that it works as intended when the Rings system serves as its own unique health bar, given that being attacked without Rings results in death?
IIRC rings are accepted as a game mechanic. Basically the move doesn't OHKO Shadow so it's a resistance.
 
The crux of the issue is that you're extrapolating it far beyond what that page says, conventional illness entails something as simple as a common cold, not heart disease that ultimately leads to a heart attack.
Said who? None of this is explained by anyone or on the page, so it's all up to interpertations. Again, if you strictly believe it's just for common cold or other simple diseases while not counting more deadly diseases (rabies and such, even though they're also either bacterial or viral), then this should be explained in the page and reworded

Again, your interpertation isn't inferred from the text at all, and if is in fact the case, this should be reflected in the page itself too
 
Anyways the way I see it Robotnik in his efforts to make Shadow the ultimate lifeform and thus resistant to all diseases, made Shadow resistant towards all types of radiation (cosmic, proton, ...), making his body immutable to the point that even complete annihilation by anti-particles was off the table.
 
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Again, your interpertation isn't inferred from the text at all, and if is in fact the case, this should be reflected in the page itself too
Yours isn't either based on how you've gotten into this argument in the first place, so I don't know why you are attempting to argue it instead of making a thread on the subject.
 
Yours isn't either based on how you've gotten into this argument in the first place, so I don't know why you are attempting to argue it instead of making a thread on the subject.
Then why are you acting as if your interpertation is the truth despite you yourself saying both are unsubstanciated?

How would you define conventional illness? What is unconventional illness? How would you differenciate if a death was by natural or unnatural causes?
 
Then why are you acting as if your interpretation is the truth despite you yourself saying both are unsubstanciated?
I don't need to assert my interpretation as truth to call out flaws in your own, but instead of attempting to debate the subject of our interpretations you should stick to the thread topic and take the Type 1 discussion to a different thread.
 
I've already said to take it elsewhere, so further commentary on it is getting deleted.
 
Riiiiiight. Just to confirm. Does resisting matter manipulation like that allow you to resist radiation? I would have thought so.
 
Garou’s cosmic radiation isn’t special or bypasses resistance. Shadow and other Sonic characters, don’t develop anything from being exposed to it, no matter how long they are bare naked out there. Bang can withstand the radiation with willpower and he has no prior resistance to cosmic radiation.

If Cosmic Radiation is the only thing keeping Garou in this fight, I’m voting for Shadow the Hedgehog.
 
I mean, maybe? Like, if you resisted having your atoms separated, then you could argue they can’t be energized maybe?
 
If Cosmic Radiation is the only thing keeping Garou in this fight, I’m voting for Shadow the Hedgehog.
He was also able to counter blasts bfr to another dimension and can evolve past and outskill shadow to kill him pretty quick. Shadows best ability though is also time stop.
 
Garou’s cosmic radiation isn’t special or bypasses resistance. Shadow and other Sonic characters, don’t develop anything from being exposed to it, no matter how long they are bare naked out there. Bang can withstand the radiation with willpower and he has no prior resistance to cosmic radiation.

If Cosmic Radiation is the only thing keeping Garou in this fight, I’m voting for Shadow the Hedgehog.
You're joking right?
 
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