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Why would he be? Elixir is saying that Shadow goes time stop -> wincon. Only thing that could prevent that is a passive like radiation.You're joking right?
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Why would he be? Elixir is saying that Shadow goes time stop -> wincon. Only thing that could prevent that is a passive like radiation.You're joking right?
Bang showing resistance to the passive radiation, would be a feat for him, no proof for that Garou's radiation won't effect Shadow. Also note that it was said that Bang would straight up die if he got too close to Garou.Garou’s cosmic radiation isn’t special or bypasses resistance. Shadow and other Sonic characters, don’t develop anything from being exposed to it, no matter how long they are bare naked out there. Bang can withstand the radiation with willpower and he has no prior resistance to cosmic radiation.
On what is this based exactly?That Garou's radiation levels exceed that level of resistance about 350,000 times over.
Astronauts in the ISS are only exposed to about 50 to 2,000 msv during their time in space. To cause immediate hair loss and blood vomiting the level would have to be about 10,000 msv with death being almost inevitable within weeks. If exposure causes victims to fall asleep aka coma, such as what Garou did and if we low-balled the S-class being in Garou's presence to be over 3 minutes from the time he arrived, they would've been exposed to about 60,000 to 70,000 msv. Even being exposed to the Chernobyl reactor core for 10 minutes after the meltdown only reaches 50,000 msv. If the S-class were in Garou's presence between 2 min to a couple of seconds then exposure would be about 80,000 to 100,000 msv.
Keep in mind time and amount of exposure factor into these numbers. Like being exposed to 2,000 msv over an hour is worse than being exposed to 2,000 msv over a year.
So basically being in outer space is about 4,000 times the radiation levels of a standard human. Being given a lethal dose of radiation within minutes would indicate about 40 to 125 times that radiation output (well maybe not since unshielded radiation is per year while that level of radiation was only a couple minutes/seconds of exposure).
- Being on a plane: 0.001 mSv a hour
- Natural background radiation someone from the US will receive: 0.1 mSv a year
- A chest X-Ray: 1.2 mSv
- The US limit for Nuclear Workers: 50 mSv a year
- The radiation that Chernobyl Recovery workers were it by: 170 mSv
- Unshielded radiation levels in space: 400-900 mSv a year
- 800 rads (8 grays) for consistently fatal ranges of radiation death within 7-28 days even with top medical care = 8,000 mSv
- 1,000 rads (Confirmed threshold for acute radiation syndrome) = 10,000 mSv
- Radiation received by people when Chernobyl went critical: 16,000 mSv
- >3,000 rads (30 grays) range where the person usually dies within 24-48 hours due to radiation exposure and organ failure = 30,000 mSv
- 5,000 rads (50 gray) range where the nervous system shuts down due to radiation damaging how bio-electricity moves through your body = 50,000 mSv
Bang showing resistance to the passive radiation, would be a feat for him, no proof for that Garou's radiation won't effect Shadow. Also note that it was said that Bang would straight up die if he got too close to Garou.
They are busy wanking Garou.Everybody’s gonna ignore my “Shadow’s biology is immutable” comment?
Everybody already ignored my radiation fodder to anti matter and matter resistance.Everybody’s gonna ignore my “Shadow’s biology is immutable” comment?
These are the comparisons/calcs:On what is this based exactly?
I didn’t.People ignoring what I said
They are busy wanking Garou.
The particle-beam cannon should be above this due to what it does to the flesh I presume. This also means that Shadow's resistance is above the radiation received by people when Chernobyl went critical. Which is what people are comparing Garou's passive radiation to. I'd be generous and say that Garou is actually at 50,000 mSv but that's not enough of a difference to matter in this fight considering how fast it will be over (and since the particle-beam cannon is implied to be able to insta-kill it could also be at 50,000 mSv).3,000 rads (30 grays) range where the person usually dies within 24-48 hours due to radiation exposure and organ failure = 30,000 mSv
Wait, what?!Garou also caused a few nuclear explosions in the area, so not all of the effects the heroes are experiencing can be chalked up to his passive radiation.
Yeah, some of it is him putting "effort" into it.Wait, what?!
Hmmmm,i seeYeah, some of it is him putting "effort" into it.
This is legitimately one of the most baffling people things I’ve read on the wiki. “Death by otherworldly cosmic radiation” is not a natural cause. This isn’t a matter of a rule being vague, it’s you being purposefully obtuse.Radiation is natural. Diseases and other things caused by radiation are natural as well. The only difference is that it's not virus or bacteria related
Wow, way be incredibly rude. At least the other guys who argued me at least had the decency to speak nicelyText.
You're right.IIRC, Zombieman was taken down by Garou's radiation
A particle-beam weapon uses a high-energy beam of atomic or subatomic particles to damage the target by disrupting its atomicand/or molecular structure. A particle-beam weapon is a type of directed-energy weapon, which directs energy in a particular and focused direction using particles with minuscule mass.Doesnt ionising radiation also work on the micro quantum level as well?
Iirc the AoE of the antimatter cannon is big enough to hit both Shadow and the ground, so he’d resist both.That doesn't protect you from the gamma radiation such an event triggers. It's like if you're durable enough to survive a nuke but die from radiation poisoning from the fallout.
Ok, but then it's a question of how much radiation is produced and how that compares to Garou's outputs.Iirc the AoE of the antimatter cannon is big enough to hit both Shadow and the ground, so he’d resist both.
I still question why the amount matters. Shadow resists Cosmic Radiation normally and from what I've seen, Garou's Cosmic Radiation only speeds up the effects of Cosmic Radiation, not bypass resistances to it.Ok, but then it's a question of how much radiation is produced and how that compares to Garou's outputs.
Difference in intensity =/= layers. If the radiation is twice as powerful, that doesn't mean they can suddenly affect people with a layer of resistance to it without feats showing as such. And because you have no feats showing that the radiation manipulation doesn't have layered effects (it it wasn't shown to affect people with resistance to that), you can't assume that just because the intensity is higher he can bypass resistances, since that's not how it worksNow that we've gotten this out of the way, we should all now understand that Shadow has no answer to Garou's radiation. If a difference of 3.4x radiation resistance would make someone almost die, then a difference of 200x would kill them near instantly.
I never said that intensity = layers. Stop putting words in my mouth.Difference in intensity =/= layers. If the radiation is twice as powerful, that doesn't mean they can suddenly affect people with a layer of resistance to it without feats showing as such. And because you have no feats showing that the radiation manipulation doesn't have layered effects (it it wasn't shown to affect people with resistance to that), you can't assume that just because the intensity is higher he can bypass resistances, since that's not how it works
Who are you disagreeing with?I disagree honestly. To put in analogy it would be like saying a character that was unaffected by a Viper can resist poison strong enough to instantly kill an elephant 200x times over because the character who poisoned the elephant never poisoned a character with baseline poison resistance.
It’s relevant for the character in question. Radiation, even Cosmic, is a curable disease. Shadow’s biology into immortality was created to treat an incurable disease. He was made to be an answer to incurable diseases known to science.Thats not exactly a relevant comparison. Inorganic physiology would resist it due to you having no biology to begin with. Shadow has no reason to be fully immune to every kind of radiation manip.
What disease?an incurable disease
Wait, you are taking the words of a random ship crew who’s not even protrayed as a scientist, to wank Tareo and all the normal humans with nuclear radiation resistance? Depriving any importance Nuclear radiations has on the verse?