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Hello guys. It's ya boi. I'm gonna do this on mobile because I'm at work and my work computer won't connect to the Internet.
Let me preface the revision by saying I will be mentioning events that take place in the Korean raws and Fast Pass chapters. If you don't want to be spoiled, please vacate the thread.
To all those who remain, I present to you the changes.
Since using any form of tool on mobile is hell, I'll just list things off and direct your attention to the sandbox since that's where all the changes are present.
Calculations
First of all, we have new calcs.
Mori uses an Oort cloud sized Geundoowun to strike Mujin down. (1.4534006e+64 J 4-A)
The resulting black hole. (1.0711398e+58 J 4-A)
Mujin slams at least 13 planets into Mori's face and later summons 3 blue giants. (Class Y and Stellar respectively)
I've talked with PowerToScale and we both agreed that Mori should scale to the Oort cloud strike by himself since he's shown to be able to do it without the assistance of his alternate universe selves. Oops, spoilers for what's to come.
Key Changes
Before the new keys, I want to adjust the old ones.
Post-Training Mori Dan should be 4-B in Mori Jin form since he can fight Ninth Tail Unleashed Ilpyo. This is significant because Ninth Tail Unleashed Ilpyo broke Dragon's horn, an explicitly 4-B character.
Mori Dan will also get an intermediate key between Post-Mori Jung and Original Power. This key will be called Post-Ogre, and will have all the new Yeouis as well as a boost in power from fighting Ogre.
Mujin will get a new Uncontrolled Supreme God key for when he first obtains Tathagata's power and hasn't silenced him yet. This will scale to Supreme God Mori, and every key past this will upscale.
Alright so Mori and gang fight Mujin a few times, and each time they're at a different level of power.
So just after Mori returns from getting all his Yeoui, they fight Mujin at an explicitly weaker level than he would be at full power. This will be a running theme going forward. Mira mentions how Mujin isn't at 100% and Daewi says how he isn't at full power. Note that this is after Mujin gained more control over Tathagata and isn't struggling with his newfound power when he first fought Mori and the Gods. Moreover, Mujin was using his power to create the new world, so he couldn't even use his full power even if he wanted to.
This version of Mujin will be called Mastered Supreme God, due to him having silenced Tathagata and gained more control over his power.
Later in the fight, Mori obtains his lost power from the Holy Grail on top of the power he already had that reached the level of Supreme God. This makes him twice as strong as before and capable of piercing Mujin through the heart, thus weakening him. However, this is a temporary amp in power as Mujin seals Mori's heart, weakening him as well.
This version of Mori will be called Original Power Restored.
After a bunch of character development, Mori faces off against Mujin for another time. However, this time the gap has widened. Mujin had recovered from Mori's implement but Mori is still injured. To demonstrate the difference in power, Mujin unleashes his full power, which nearly destroys Mira and Mori merely from his presence alone. This "full power" Mujin later fights the Mori who performs the above 4-A feat.
This version of Mujin will be called Full Power Supreme God.
Just before Mori and Mira are destroyed, Satan appears from the Divine Realm and matches Mujin. He then flexes a few transformations, and even manages to impale Mujin. However, upon Mujin flexing even more of his power, Satan is left powerless and in awe. He will later get completely dismembered too.
This version of Satan will be called Post-Divine Realm
Alright so, to save time I won't discuss the details of how this form came about but long haired Mori fights Full Power Supreme God Mujin evenly and even defeats him. We know this version performed the Oort cloud feat so I won't dwell on it too much.
This version of Mori will be called The God of High School, as it was written in the narrative that that is indeed who Mori is; solving an 8 year long question.
It is confirmed that Daewi grows stronger over time with fights, and contributes to the beating Mujin receives after mastering Supreme God. He went from being unable to break Dragon's skin to shattering his ribs. Later still he managed to break through Mujin's defenses after surpassing his limits. He also gets the Old Deer's book.
This version of Daewi will be called Post-Book of an Old Deer.
Mira won't be getting any new keys since Mori did most of the heavy lifting in their fights against Mujin. Mira even outright claims that Incomplete Supreme God Mujin would kill her instantly if she let her guard down. Her deal is mostly gaining new powers and mastering her own skill, pushing through opponents she has no right being able to fight against. Even Mujin comments about how she's the weakest of the three.
Rest of the named key changes can be seen on the sandbox.
Scaling
Now comes the important bit. We've established the new benchmarks of power, so now we will apply them to people.
Let's start with a baseline. Uncontrolled Supreme God Mujin is > Supreme God Mori. We know this is consistent because Mori Dan was stated to be reaching his Supreme God level of power just before fighting Supreme God Mujin. This is 4-B.
People who scale will be Full Power of the Jade Empror Daewi and Post-Timeskip Satan.
Later on Mori gets indeterminately stronger thanks to Ogre. Mira gets Wi-Fi, and Daewi gets stronger because Accelerated Development. At this point, Mujin has already mastered his powers. This will be higher into 4-B.
People who scale will be Clown's Song Q, the Four Pillars, and King Uma.
Then comes Mujin flexing his true power. Nobody scales to this except God of High School Mori Jin, Post-Divine Realm Satan (To an extent), and Mori's alt universe counterparts. This is 4-A scaling to Mori's Oort cloud feat.
And finally Mujin after having absorbed Tathagata. There's little to no information about this form for now bit at least we know it's comparable or stronger than Full Power Supreme God Mujin. Unique key for Mujin that has Stellar LS. Scales to no one for now.
Powers and Abilities
All P&A changes can be seen on the sandboxes themselves. Feel free to look over them and see if I've missed anything out.
That should be all for now.
Let me preface the revision by saying I will be mentioning events that take place in the Korean raws and Fast Pass chapters. If you don't want to be spoiled, please vacate the thread.
To all those who remain, I present to you the changes.
Since using any form of tool on mobile is hell, I'll just list things off and direct your attention to the sandbox since that's where all the changes are present.
Calculations
First of all, we have new calcs.
Mori uses an Oort cloud sized Geundoowun to strike Mujin down. (1.4534006e+64 J 4-A)
The resulting black hole. (1.0711398e+58 J 4-A)
Mujin slams at least 13 planets into Mori's face and later summons 3 blue giants. (Class Y and Stellar respectively)
I've talked with PowerToScale and we both agreed that Mori should scale to the Oort cloud strike by himself since he's shown to be able to do it without the assistance of his alternate universe selves. Oops, spoilers for what's to come.
Key Changes
Before the new keys, I want to adjust the old ones.
Post-Training Mori Dan should be 4-B in Mori Jin form since he can fight Ninth Tail Unleashed Ilpyo. This is significant because Ninth Tail Unleashed Ilpyo broke Dragon's horn, an explicitly 4-B character.
Mori Dan will also get an intermediate key between Post-Mori Jung and Original Power. This key will be called Post-Ogre, and will have all the new Yeouis as well as a boost in power from fighting Ogre.
Mujin will get a new Uncontrolled Supreme God key for when he first obtains Tathagata's power and hasn't silenced him yet. This will scale to Supreme God Mori, and every key past this will upscale.
Alright so Mori and gang fight Mujin a few times, and each time they're at a different level of power.
So just after Mori returns from getting all his Yeoui, they fight Mujin at an explicitly weaker level than he would be at full power. This will be a running theme going forward. Mira mentions how Mujin isn't at 100% and Daewi says how he isn't at full power. Note that this is after Mujin gained more control over Tathagata and isn't struggling with his newfound power when he first fought Mori and the Gods. Moreover, Mujin was using his power to create the new world, so he couldn't even use his full power even if he wanted to.
This version of Mujin will be called Mastered Supreme God, due to him having silenced Tathagata and gained more control over his power.
Later in the fight, Mori obtains his lost power from the Holy Grail on top of the power he already had that reached the level of Supreme God. This makes him twice as strong as before and capable of piercing Mujin through the heart, thus weakening him. However, this is a temporary amp in power as Mujin seals Mori's heart, weakening him as well.
This version of Mori will be called Original Power Restored.
After a bunch of character development, Mori faces off against Mujin for another time. However, this time the gap has widened. Mujin had recovered from Mori's implement but Mori is still injured. To demonstrate the difference in power, Mujin unleashes his full power, which nearly destroys Mira and Mori merely from his presence alone. This "full power" Mujin later fights the Mori who performs the above 4-A feat.
This version of Mujin will be called Full Power Supreme God.
Just before Mori and Mira are destroyed, Satan appears from the Divine Realm and matches Mujin. He then flexes a few transformations, and even manages to impale Mujin. However, upon Mujin flexing even more of his power, Satan is left powerless and in awe. He will later get completely dismembered too.
This version of Satan will be called Post-Divine Realm
Alright so, to save time I won't discuss the details of how this form came about but long haired Mori fights Full Power Supreme God Mujin evenly and even defeats him. We know this version performed the Oort cloud feat so I won't dwell on it too much.
This version of Mori will be called The God of High School, as it was written in the narrative that that is indeed who Mori is; solving an 8 year long question.
It is confirmed that Daewi grows stronger over time with fights, and contributes to the beating Mujin receives after mastering Supreme God. He went from being unable to break Dragon's skin to shattering his ribs. Later still he managed to break through Mujin's defenses after surpassing his limits. He also gets the Old Deer's book.
This version of Daewi will be called Post-Book of an Old Deer.
Mira won't be getting any new keys since Mori did most of the heavy lifting in their fights against Mujin. Mira even outright claims that Incomplete Supreme God Mujin would kill her instantly if she let her guard down. Her deal is mostly gaining new powers and mastering her own skill, pushing through opponents she has no right being able to fight against. Even Mujin comments about how she's the weakest of the three.
Rest of the named key changes can be seen on the sandbox.
Scaling
Now comes the important bit. We've established the new benchmarks of power, so now we will apply them to people.
Let's start with a baseline. Uncontrolled Supreme God Mujin is > Supreme God Mori. We know this is consistent because Mori Dan was stated to be reaching his Supreme God level of power just before fighting Supreme God Mujin. This is 4-B.
People who scale will be Full Power of the Jade Empror Daewi and Post-Timeskip Satan.
Later on Mori gets indeterminately stronger thanks to Ogre. Mira gets Wi-Fi, and Daewi gets stronger because Accelerated Development. At this point, Mujin has already mastered his powers. This will be higher into 4-B.
People who scale will be Clown's Song Q, the Four Pillars, and King Uma.
Then comes Mujin flexing his true power. Nobody scales to this except God of High School Mori Jin, Post-Divine Realm Satan (To an extent), and Mori's alt universe counterparts. This is 4-A scaling to Mori's Oort cloud feat.
And finally Mujin after having absorbed Tathagata. There's little to no information about this form for now bit at least we know it's comparable or stronger than Full Power Supreme God Mujin. Unique key for Mujin that has Stellar LS. Scales to no one for now.
Powers and Abilities
All P&A changes can be seen on the sandboxes themselves. Feel free to look over them and see if I've missed anything out.
That should be all for now.
