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[PrettyVixenGirl]

Kiria is so awesome. That ***** is definitely the most sadistic and crazy in the series.

 

[PrettyVixenGirl]

Also I would say lucy scales to her speed but thats about it it seems. Cause lucy was able to cut open her clothes before she realized as well as clash with her multiple strikes even if her swords did give out. Ap no, speed yes. I also wonder if kiria got stronger but that's hard to say.

 

[Eseseso]

Chill, he's gonna need some ******* ice for that burn.

Why must everyone be so mean to me?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

So does normal Star Dress Lucy still scale to Base Natsu?

Yes, she still scales to them off of scaling to Base Gajeel

Kiria is just higher on the chain now. She casually damaged Base Natsu with basic sword slashes, which Star Dress Lucy was able to match with her Cancer Form. It just means that her getting more serious is a little above that. Remember that her Roar took out Star Dress Lucy and Base Wendy.

She sorta existed in a vacuum before since she scaled to Base Natsu with casual slashes and below CHC Erza and Base Laxus with more serious attacks, just means we have a better gauge of her power

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

God damn lucy failed the vibe check

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Just realized

Why ain't this on Kiria profile

Kiria fought and matched Strongest Armors Erza for quite some time eventually forcing her to use her new Dragon Slayer Sword for another power

Why we only scaling her to Base Erza?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Just realized

Why ain't this on Kiria profile

Kiria fought and matched Strongest Armors Erza for quite some time eventually forcing her to use her new Dragon Slayer Sword for another power

Why we only scaling her to Base Erza?

Cause she clearly doesn't scale to Base Laxus

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Cause she clearly doesn't scale to Base Laxus

I mean

Neither does Strongest Armors Erza

It was Strongest Armors Erza+Dragon Slaying Sword which was Base Laxus tier and forced him into RLDM pretty sure

And it actually pretty consistent since when Erza whipped out the Dragon Slaying Sword with her stronger armors she one shot Kiria much like how Base Laxus low diffed Kiria

So basically

RLDM Laxus>=High Enchant Strongest Armors Erza>>>Base Laxus/Strongest Armors Erza+Dragon Slaying Sword>>>Strongest Armors Erza/Kiria

Does that make sense?

 

[Eseseso]

Yes, she still scales to them off of scaling to Base Gajeel

Kiria is just higher on the chain now. She casually damaged Base Natsu with basic sword slashes, which Star Dress Lucy was able to match with her Cancer Form. It just means that her getting more serious is a little above that. Remember that her Roar took out Star Dress Lucy and Base Wendy.

She sorta existed in a vacuum before since she scaled to Base Natsu with casual slashes and below CHC Erza and Base Laxus with more serious attacks, just means we have a better gauge of her power

Well, at least I was right when I said that she scales above Base Natsu (pre Elentir, that is)

 

[Eseseso]

Also, why exactly doesn't RLDM Laxus's profile state that he gets stronger if he bleeds more?

That's more or less what he says when using it against Erza after she slashes him.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I mean

Neither does Strongest Armors Erza

It was Strongest Armors Erza+Dragon Slaying Sword which was Base Laxus tier and forced him into RLDM pretty sure

And it actually pretty consistent since when Erza whipped out the Dragon Slaying Sword with her stronger armors she one shot Kiria much like how Base Laxus low diffed Kiria

So basically

RLDM Laxus>=High Enchant Strongest Armors Erza>>>Base Laxus/Strongest Armors Erza+Dragon Slaying Sword>>>Strongest Armors Erza/Kiria

Does that make sense?

We include Dragon Slayer Sword Erza as Strongest Armors Erza

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Also, why exactly doesn't RLDM Laxus's profile state that he gets stronger if he bleeds more?

That's more or less what he says when using it against Erza after she slashes him.

No he doesn't, he says that blood is the source of Red Lightning, he has never actually said bleeding more makes him stronger, that's just an assumption the entire fandom has made, but it's not confirmed

 

[AnimesFreak2]

We include Dragon Slayer Sword Erza as Strongest Armors Erza

Hmm

Then maybe you can make it similar to how like Gajeel Steel Dragon Slayer move is above his normal attacks and one shot:

Comparable to Lightning Fire Dragon Mode Natsu after it's initial usage), higher with Steel Dragon's Sword (One-shot Super Armor Etherious Form Torafuzar)

So in the case of Kiria and Erza

Kiria: Fought and matched X793 Strongest Armors Erza

Erza: Fought and matched Kiria, higher with Dragon Slaying Sword Belserion ( one shot Kiria, comparable to X793 Base Laxus )
Does that make sense?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Hmm

Then maybe you can make it similar to how like Gajeel Steel Dragon Slayer move is above his normal attacks and one shot:

Comparable to Lightning Fire Dragon Mode Natsu after it's initial usage), higher with Steel Dragon's Sword (One-shot Super Armor Etherious Form Torafuzar)

So in the case of Kiria and Erza

Kiria: Fought and matched X793 Strongest Armors Erza

Erza: Fought and matched Kiria, higher with Dragon Slaying Sword Belserion ( one shot Kiria, comparable to X793 Base Laxus )
Does that make sense?

Ugh... You can make the CRT, I'm pretty busy RN

 

[Eseseso]

No he doesn't, he says that blood is the source of Red Lightning, he has never actually said bleeding more makes him stronger, that's just an assumption the entire fandom has made, but it's not confirmed

1. You're right, just checked.

2. Since Kiria one-shot Star Dress Mix Lucy when she was serious, does her serious self scale above Yokai Lucy (who is >= 3x Star Dress Lucy), who was unable to one-shot Base Natsu (pre-Elentir), who should've been below Star Dress Mix Lucy?

We can just have Not-serious Kyria at 17.2 gigatons (since she wasn't serious during the whole fight against Erza and Natsu) and Serious Kyria at "51.6 gigatons,possibly higher [due to that fight against Clear Heart Armor Erza]", unless we want her to upscale to baseline 6-C+ since she'd be above Yokai Lucy and the gap between 52.15 gigatons and 51.6 gigatons is tiny.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Here's the thing, CHC Erza's Durability undeniably scales to Base Laxus and Red Lightning Dragon Mode Laxus, she's just blatantly on that level via taking so many attacks from Laxus

We clearly see Outer Path Yoko hurt and damage CHC Erza, so she would scale to her Durability and well Strongest Armors Erza blatantly overpowers and defeats that Yoko, so Strongest Armors Erza scales to her Durability

Kiria is incapable of even scratching Base Laxus with her Roar and is completely outmatched by him, so she just doesn't scale to his level in any form

I just treat Kiria and CHC Erza clashing back and forth as Erza being casual, cause Kiria clearly isn't on Erza or Laxus' level

I mean scaling CHC Erza in itself is always a pain in the ass cause it's her strongest AP Armor "Sometimes"

 

[Eseseso]

Here's the thing, CHC Erza's Durability undeniably scales to Base Laxus and Red Lightning Dragon Mode Laxus, she's just blatantly on that level via taking so many attacks from Laxus

We clearly see Outer Path Yoko hurt and damage CHC Erza, so she would scale to her Durability and well Strongest Armors Erza blatantly overpowers and defeats that Yoko, so Strongest Armors Erza scales to her Durability

Kiria is incapable of even scratching Base Laxus with her Roar and is completely outmatched by him, so she just doesn't scale to his level in any form

I just treat Kiria and CHC Erza clashing back and forth as Erza being casual, cause Kiria clearly isn't on Erza or Laxus' level

That makes sense power-wise.

Story wise it's questionable (since Erza was pissed at Kyria for torturing her), but power scaling wise it's fine.

Also, since Serious Kiria one-shot Star Dress Mix Lucy when she was serious, does her serious self scale above Yokai Lucy (who is >= 3x Star Dress Lucy), who was unable to one-shot Base Natsu (pre-Elentir), who should've been =< Star Dress Mix Lucy?

We can just have Not-serious Kyria at 17.2 gigatons (since she wasn't serious during the whole fight against Erza and Natsu) and Serious Kyria at "51.6 gigatons, possibly higher", unless we want her to upscale to baseline 6-C+ since she'd be above Yokai Lucy and the gap between 52.15 gigatons and 51.6 gigatons is tiny.

 

[Eseseso]

Also, this ironically is kind of similar to this CRT of mine , since we now know that Kyria (well, a serious Kyria) is actually well above Star Dress Lucy due to one-shotting Star Dress Mix Lucy.

And as I just stated above, this would put Kyria at >= Yokai Lucy due to one-shotting someone equal to Pre-Elentir Base Natsu when Yokai Lucy couldn't do the same to Natsu himself.

Which is very similar to the old CRT I linked to above.

So I still get a small win!

Please let me have this win. Just this once.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

That makes sense power-wise.

Story wise it's questionable (since Erza was pissed at Kyria for torturing her), but power scaling wise it's fine.

Also, since Serious Kiria one-shot Star Dress Mix Lucy when she was serious, does her serious self scale above Yokai Lucy (who is >= 3x Star Dress Lucy), who was unable to one-shot Base Natsu (pre-Elentir), who should've been =< Star Dress Mix Lucy?

We can just have Not-serious Kyria at 17.2 gigatons (since she wasn't serious during the whole fight against Erza and Natsu) and Serious Kyria at "51.6 gigatons, possibly higher", unless we want her to upscale to baseline 6-C+ since she'd be above Yokai Lucy and the gap between 52.15 gigatons and 51.6 gigatons is tiny.

First of all, actually wait for translations before we make a judgement on any of the latest chapters scaling...

And even then, Kiria may not have actually one-shot Lucy yet, we have no idea if this is bait or not

 

[Eseseso]

First of all, actually wait for translations before we make a judgement on any of the latest chapters scaling...

And even then, Kiria may not have actually one-shot Lucy yet, we have no idea if this is bait or not

1. Ok, waiting for translations is a good idea.

2. Perhaps, but even then she drew a lot of blood and badly cut Star Dress Mix Lucy (who is obviously >> Star Dress Lucy who is >=< to Pre-Elentir Natsu), when Yokai Lucy failed to do more to Natsu than a bunch of scratches and bruises despite having the clear advantage and stomping him.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Ok, so Erza's Profile needs some revising due to Clear Heart Clothing being a ******* mess, so I will try to fix that up with a CRT later tonight

 

[Eseseso]

Ok, so Erza's Profile needs some revising due to Clear Heart Clothing being a ******* mess, so I will try to fix that up with a CRT later tonight

No rush.

If college is being too stressful (like it is starting to get for me), then take your time.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

This is completely off topic, but exactly how weakened was Aldoron during his fight with Natsu? I know he said he was only somewhat weakened, which means he had a majority of his power left, but I've heard arguments he is an unreliable narrator when it comes to his own power. Does that arguement hold any weight?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

This is completely off topic, but exactly how weakened was Aldoron during his fight with Natsu? I know he said he was only somewhat weakened, which means he had a majority of his power left, but I've heard arguments he is an unreliable narrator when it comes to his own power. Does that arguement hold any weight?

Aldoron was unquantifiably weakened, presumebly around the same level as Half Power Mercphobia with how they are both compared to Base Natsu, which Base Natsu unable to do shit, but not be one-shot or anything

The fact that he says "Somewhat weakened" seems to me like he wasn't nerfed too hard. My headcanon is that he was about around 40% since the 5 God Seeds make up his power and 3 of them were taken out when Natsu beat him.

But I tend to find that "Unreliable Narrator" argument is used just to downplay Natsu like people have always done. Truth is we don't have a clear comparison between Weakened Aldoron and literally anyone but Dragon Force Natsu. Weakened Aldoron says that Natsu's Magic Power reminds him of Igneel's Fire, making his weakened state seeming be around Igneel.

Like we know Igneel<Acnologia<Aldoron

So Aldoron being weakened would very likely be above the Weakened Igneel who fought Acnologia and would still be Igneel's level

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Aldoron was unquantifiably weakened, presumebly around the same level as Half Power Mercphobia with how they are both compared to Base Natsu, which Base Natsu unable to do shit, but not be one-shot or anything

The fact that he says "Somewhat weakened" seems to me like he wasn't nerfed too hard. My headcanon is that he was about around 40% since the 5 God Seeds make up his power and 3 of them were taken out when Natsu beat him.

But I tend to find that "Unreliable Narrator" argument is used just to downplay Natsu like people have always done. Truth is we don't have a clear comparison between Weakened Aldoron and literally anyone but Dragon Force Natsu. Weakened Aldoron says that Natsu's Magic Power reminds him of Igneel's Fire, making his weakened state seeming be around Igneel.

So Natsu went from needing Ignia's power to overpower a half power Dragon God, to being able to oneshot a half power Dragon God by himself? Good ******* lord how many ******* push ups does this guy do

 

[Eseseso]

So Natsu went from needing Ignia's power to overpower a half power Dragon God, to being able to oneshot a half power Dragon God by himself? Good ******* lord how many ******* push ups does this guy do

The better questions are: How many sit-ups does he do, and how much juice does he drink?

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

How many push does he do?
All of them

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Also, just re-read the Gray vs Skullion fight, man Gray got ******* jobbed dude. Fight was underwater, he blitzes Skullion, then gets oneshot with hax, what the actual hell was that fight? And since then, Gray has done nothing of note.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Also, just re-read the Gray vs Skullion fight, man Gray got ******* jobbed dude. Fight was underwater, he blitzes Skullion, then gets oneshot with hax, what the actual hell was that fight? And since then, Gray has done nothing of note.

Honestly if I was Mashima

After having Gray being capable of matching an incomplete END.....

In 100 YQ he should be stronger than any Spriggan or fighter of that level

Like as much as I meme Gray ( and it's SO much fun to do so )

He was done the dirty badly

Why in the AU I am currently writing he just gonna be built different

He's Natsu's "rival" for a reason

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Honestly if I was Mashima

After having Gray being capable of matching an incomplete END.....

In 100 YQ he should be stronger than any Spriggan or fighter of that level

Like as much as I meme Gray ( and it's SO much fun to do so )

He was done the dirty badly

Why in the AU I am currently writing he just gonna be built different

He's Natsu's "rival" for a reason

Yeah in that fanfic I shared earlier, base Gray was able to fight against both Mira and Erza competently, and flat out stomp them in DSM

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Yeah in that fanfic I shared earlier, base Gray was able to fight against both Mira and Erza competently, and flat out stomp them in DSM

I know

I read it when u linked it remember

In fact that what partially inspired me to treat Gray even better in my fic than what I was already going to do

I also used the words "built different" as a homage to that fic lmao

When Natsu told Erza and Mira that Gray was so strong simply because...."he's made oddly"

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

I know

I read it when u linked it remember

In fact that what partially inspired me to treat Gray even better in my fic than what I was already going to do

I also used the words "built different" as a homage to that fic lmao

When Natsu told Erza and Mira that Gray was so strong simply because...."he's made oddly"

Dude the way that story described the Devil Slayer Mark transformation was hella lit, made the form feel Uber powerful

 

[Eseseso]

Honestly if I was Mashima

After having Gray being capable of matching an incomplete END.....

In 100 YQ he should be stronger than any Spriggan or fighter of that level

Like as much as I meme Gray ( and it's SO much fun to do so )

He was done the dirty badly

Why in the AU I am currently writing he just gonna be built different

He's Natsu's "rival" for a reason

Yeah in that fanfic I shared earlier, base Gray was able to fight against both Mira and Erza competently, and flat out stomp them in DSM

Well in that mass crossover fanfic I'm writing and will hope to update in the near future (stupid college), Post-Timeskip Gray is definitely going to be a heavy-hitter in Base Alone (not the strongest in the group, but definitely not a push-over).

His Devil Slayer Magic is WAY better than in canon, with it being more advanced AND having plenty of more abilities, both for his Devil Slayer magic and normal ice magic.

Although I will add that when he and Juvia (who in my fanfic will also be a major powerhouse post-timeskip) fight Invel (who is also far stronger than canon due to Zeref encouraging him to train a lot during the 2-year timeskip), he is the one who nearly dies instead of Juvia.

Invel does not live much longer after that.

But Gray will definitely kick some ass before and after the timeskip.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Dude the way that story described the Devil Slayer Mark transformation was hella lit, made the form feel Uber powerful

Agreed:

Almost everyone present felt gnarly trills run along the length of their spine when the temperature abruptly plummeted. In the sky, drab bitter clouds tumbled across stretching and stretching until for a brief moment, the storm encompassed nearly half the planet. White nihilistic ice spread across the ground beneath Mirajane and Gray, sparkling mist swirling and rising from the glossy sheen. Slowly forcing his head back to face the she-devil, Gray stood completely unaffected from the most formidable strike Mirajane could muster. Sinister black markings spread across one half of his body, a visualization of venomous power spreading through his every nerve ending. Even the recovering Erza staggered to a knee at the perilous magical energy. Doleful obsidian tattoos practically preened as they stretched like a jagged serpentine over his right side from head to toe, slowly coming up to overlap an eye sock black hair told gravity 'no' as it bristled and spikened, now pointing up and every which way. The ice mage, now stood, a devil slayer.

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Agreed:

Almost everyone present felt gnarly trills run along the length of their spine when the temperature abruptly plummeted. In the sky, drab bitter clouds tumbled across stretching and stretching until for a brief moment, the storm encompassed nearly half the planet. White nihilistic ice spread across the ground beneath Mirajane and Gray, sparkling mist swirling and rising from the glossy sheen. Slowly forcing his head back to face the she-devil, Gray stood completely unaffected from the most formidable strike Mirajane could muster. Sinister black markings spread across one half of his body, a visualization of venomous power spreading through his every nerve ending. Even the recovering Erza staggered to a knee at the perilous magical energy. Doleful obsidian tattoos practically preened as they stretched like a jagged serpentine over his right side from head to toe, slowly coming up to overlap an eye sock black hair told gravity 'no' as it bristled and spikened, now pointing up and every which way. The ice mage, now stood, a devil slayer.

Wait he created a storm that encompassed half the planet, dude I missed that that's a huge ass feat although after chapter 15 it doesn't seem as impressive

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

As long as Gray is weaker than Natsu, Erza, and Laxus, I'm fine with him being as strong as necesarry

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Wait he created a storm that encompassed half the planet, dude I missed that that's a huge ass feat although after chapter 15 it doesn't seem as impressive

yeah, just by powering up to Devil Slaying Mode at that lmao

 

[AnimesFreak2]

As long as Gray is weaker than Natsu, Erza, and Laxus, I'm fine with him being as strong as necesarry

Gray eventually gonna end up strongest in the guild after Natsu in my fic probably

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

Gray eventually gonna end up strongest in the guild after Natsu in my fic probably