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Bruno is physically average in the Madrigal family. Only Luisa is noted to be very strong and toughI don't see why he should be equal to them.
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Bruno is physically average in the Madrigal family. Only Luisa is noted to be very strong and toughI don't see why he should be equal to them.
Is there a statement for that?Bruno is physically average in the Madrigal family. Only Luisa is noted to be very strong and tough
Yeah. The whole point of Luisa's power is that she's exceptionally strong. Able to crush rocks, lift donkeys and churches and suchIs there a statement for that?
Bruno is literally an ordinary human in the movie. He isn't noted anywhere to be strong or tough. Only Luisa is stated to be toughIf not, then we should stop trying to force our head canon through just because we don't want to see ordinary human characters rated like ordinary humans.
The only one who was directly stated and shown to not be average is Luisa.You misinterpreted me. I was asking if there was any statement that Bruno was physically average.
No need for this attitude. I was simply asking a question. And if you did get offended, then I apologizeAnd yes, I've probably watched the movie more times than you. Don't get smart. I'm just sick of people forcing powerscaling to get undeserved ratings so I will be opposing this unless there is counter evidence.
I'm fine with Bruno's feat being an outlier since everyone else is pretty much portrayed as normal humansAnyway, I think it's more likely that Bruno was capable of such a feat because he wore his bucket on his head and the house was already crumbling and potentially fragile. I vehemently oppose upgrading everyone else and would rather write it off as an outlier.
Isn't Bruno also seven feet? That could change the value of the calc as well.It's not an outlier. Casita was falling apart when Bruno broke through so it's probably not even valid.
For the final father ******* time, NOOOIsn't Bruno also seven feet?
What source are they using?For the final father ******* time, NOOO
Read the whole thing and you'll find out why.What source are they using?
Scaling doesn't work like that.A little late to this thread, but why don't the other family members scale to Bruno? There's nothing explicitly saying that he's stronger than the rest of them, is there?
Still, doesn’t make sense. Why would one unathletic human be vastly stronger than any other unathletic human?Scaling doesn't work like that.
You'd need something explicitly stating that they're on his level. You don't assume that he's down on their level by default.
I mean... the requirement for proof is one of the most basic things on the powerscaling page.Still, doesn’t make sense. Why would one unathletic human be vastly stronger than any other unathletic human?
Another way powerscaling works is through attributing feats a character performs to other characters who are equal or greater than that character as well.
So if Character A is capable of lifting a car. And Character B has proven to be stronger than Character A, then it is safe to say that Character B can also lift a car.
I don’t think it works the same way for regular humans in fiction that should be capable of harming each other.I mean... the requirement for proof is one of the most basic things on the powerscaling page.
Bolded the relevant word.
That's just the way scaling works.
To be fair, to my knowledge we have quite a lot of pages that include the words "Should be comparable to" as justifications for their scaling.Scaling doesn't work like that.
You'd need something explicitly stating that they're on his level. You don't assume that he's down on their level by default.
Those are badly written profiles for the most part; on a good profile you'd expect either a scan showing why, a more elaborate justification, or a reference.To be fair, to my knowledge we have quite a lot of pages that include the words "Should be comparable to" as justifications for their scaling.
Not sure if anyone ever gave a direct answer for this- the link that was given just took me to an unrelated page- but Mirabel is 5'2, according to the man behind the movie: So that can be a way of scaling off the rest of the characters.Do we have heights for the characters? At worst I can use the "7 foot frame" quote for Bruno and scale to that but if that's the case everyone's like 6 foot minimum so kinda don't want to do that
Not sure if anyone ever gave a direct answer for this- the link that was given just took me to an unrelated page- but Mirabel is 5'2, according to the man behind the movie: So that can be a way of scaling off the rest of the characters.
I don't think something being said in a song is necessarily meaning that it was not true- the fantasy sequences in Surface Pressure and Mirabel being taken back to the moment that the Casita was created are the only definitive times where a musical number is depicting something that isn't literal, while most of the times it is actually the characters' powers that are causing anything out of the ordinary.
Oh yeah, when I clicked the link it took me to another page, but that does seem to be right. It uses the same source for Isabel's height while also using someone's estimates on Reddit to get the rest of the family.
Pretty sure Luisa stated to be able to move mountains is an exaggeration of her strengthCasita and Luisa are probably tier 7. Luisa’s stated by several people to be able to move mountains and Casita both grew and split them.
Maybe. Idk. It gets pretty hard to tell. Both times were stated in-song, but then again, nothing else in Luisa's song (Surface Pressure) specifically seems to be an exaggeration, and nothing else is an exaggeration in Waiting on a Miracle (which also implied that Luisa could move mountains). The visual feats should be discounted for most of this, but when it comes to the lyrics, I think most of the stuff is fine.Pretty sure Luisa stated to be able to move mountains is an exaggeration of her strength
I'm honestly fine with scaling Bruno to the other Madrigals due to the unlikelihood that he would be that much stronger than anyone else in the family when he wouldn't have been able to get a work-out going during his ten years hiding in the walls and surviving off of whatever leftovers the rats could find him.
Oh yeah, I never considered that a possibility, but it could make sense.If it is unlikely that he should be that strong, it could just be an outlier for Bruno.