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[Tarang123]

Why possibly ? WoV is in the timeline, outside the multiverse but still in the timeline, the entire timeline and whatever is In it got absolutely erased from existence. So why possibly

Mainly cause we don’t know whether it was even a thing in the future timeline

 

[Orange]

Mainly cause we don’t know whether it was even a thing in the future timeline

We know , unless you wanna argue that GP created.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

so....zeno is getting nonexistence erasure?

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

so....zeno is getting nonexistence erasure?

No

 

[Ss3micah]

so....zeno is getting nonexistence erasure?

I dont think so
Depends on if the WoV is successfully argued to be a void containing nothing

 

[Ss3micah]

You COULD potentially argue that since the world of void is stated IN VERSE to contain Infinite Nothingness then erasing the Void would also erase that Nothingness...

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

Depends on if the WoV is successfully argued to be a void containing nothing

Tbf, I don't agree with the claim that It's not just an "empty space" as someone said.

That would imply that space is a thing there, which we know it isn't.

It's literally timeless, spaceless and filled with nothing. A true void if you ask me.

If someone thinks it's just an empty space, then I would like to see the evidence for that.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Tbf, I don't agree with the claim that It's not just an "empty space" as someone said.

That would imply that space is a thing there, which we know it isn't.

It's literally timeless, spaceless and filled with nothing. A true void if you ask me.

If someone thinks it's just an empty space, then I would like to see the evidence for that.

We even see clouds on the void (matter), a empty should've NOTHING on it.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

We even see clouds on the void (matter), a empty should've NOTHING on it.

That's cinematic/art choice.

Tell me how can they draw a void otherwise.

I also wanna say that I don't remember clouds in the WoV. Just an empty sky.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

That's cinematic/art choice.

Tell me how can they draw a void otherwise.

Just an empty background coloured, perhaps?

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

And still, clouds still clouds, and they are made out of matter, we even see them moving slowly as regular clouds do at one point.

 

[Ss3micah]

We even see clouds on the void (matter), a empty should've NOTHING on it.

Laughs in DC COMICS

 

[Ss3micah]

And still, clouds still clouds, and they are made out of matter, we even see them moving slowly as regular clouds do at one point.

Yeah because stylistically and aesthetically speaking that would have been a creative idea for all the designers and editors and the fandom definitely wouldn't complain
Let's just make the world of void a black page and get rid of the light too so no one can see themselves
PERFECT!!!

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

Laughs in DC COMICS

And still, clouds still clouds, and they are made out of matter, we even see them moving slowly as regular clouds do at one point.

Either way, we don't have a concrete proof that the WoV is even a thing in the future timeline, nor that even if Zeno's erasure reached there.

And, we should've seen Zeno erasure reaching the void, for a solid rating, but we don't.

 

[Ss3micah]

And still, clouds still clouds, and they are made out of matter, we even see them moving slowly as regular clouds do at one point.

Either way, we don't have a concrete proof that the WoV is even a thing in the future timeline, nor that even if Zeno's erasure reached there.

And, we should've seen Zeno erasure reaching the void, for a solid rating, but we don't.

"TRUE VOIDS" in DC have contained Time, Space and Matter so you tell me what's with that

 

[CR_Catinho]

We even see clouds on the void (matter), a empty should've NOTHING on it.

 

[Ottavio_Merluzzo]

This is "WoV has space time" levels of argument.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

IS true lol

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

"TRUE VOIDS" in DC have contained Time, Space and Matter so you tell me what's with that

And that's what it doesn't make them a true void lol.

 

[CR_Catinho]

IS true lol

i can't believe you said that with a straight face
been a long time since i laughed like this

 

[Ss3micah]

Also can you send me a picture of these clouds you speak of?

 

[Ss3micah]

And that's what it doesn't make them a true void lol.

Tell that to DC and the members on VSB who accept it as a true void

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

i can't believe you said that with a straight face
been a long time since i laughed like this

Yeah, but It's true. Void must be empty. Or at least that's what I thought

Anyway, AKM said that the standart for Void has changed. I think

 

[Ss3micah]

Yeah, but It's true. Void must be empty. Or at least that's what I thought

Fiction Bro
Literally anything can happen cause Fiction
The ONE STANDARD FITS ALL doesn't apply to fiction

 

[Orange]

Yeah, but It's true. Void must be empty. Or at least that's what I thought

So , lets paint it black so we can't see anything right? and it's literally an artistic choice. This is at the level of "goku isn't universal" or "frieza is a core buster only".

 

[Orange]

Fiction Bro
Literally anything can happen cause Fiction
The ONE STANDARD FITS ALL doesn't apply to fiction

No no, you see, artistic choice so we can see what's Happening in the tournament is a clear indication that the world of void isn't a void.
Next thing he'll say "Goku isn't FTL because he doesn't time travel or turn into a black hole"

 

[HammerStrikes219]

There is one thing as I not sure if it will count as void manipulation especially with the case of Goku and the crew able to return to where Future Zeno erased Zamasu.



Anyway, neutral for now.

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

i can't believe you said that with a straight face
been a long time since i laughed like this

With the clouds thing I was joking.

But is true that we don't have a definitive conclusion as whereas Zeno's erasure reached the WoV. Even if there is a replicate in Trunks timeline.

That's why I'm kinda iffy on giving Zebo the full rating, even thought a "possibly" could work.

 

[Ss3micah]

But is true that we don't have a definitive conclusion as whereas Zeno's erasure reached the WoV. Even if there is a replicate in Trunks timeline.

That's why I'm kinda iffy on giving Zebo the full rating, even thought a "possibly" could work.

Possibly is the way to go at any given rate

 

[Orange]

With the clouds thing I was joking.

But is true that we don't have a definitive conclusion as whereas Zeno's erasure reached the WoV. Even if there is a replicate in Trunks timeline.

That's why I'm kinda iffy on giving Zebo the full rating, even thought a "possibly" could work.

Are you kidding me- Man that's not cool at all, if you don't have any real arguments and you were I just here for shit and giggles, kindly shut up.

 

[Tarang123]

We know , unless you wanna argue that GP created.

It’s never really implied, hence the possible void manip

 

[Confluctor]

"TRUE VOIDS" in DC have contained Time, Space and Matter so you tell me what's with that

What are you referring to? The true void doesn't have any time or space or reality...

 

[Antvasima]

Hmm? Wrong comment I think?

Sorry. It seems like I mixed up threads due to overwork.

 

[Antvasima]

Well based on my Understanding of the situation

Super Shenron having Void Manipulation is fine with AKM

Zeno having the EE that bypasses resistances (since he can erase Gods of Destruction who have resistance to EE) is something I'm not quite sure has been fully settled as of yet. (Everyone is saying a note can probably be made saying he can bypass 1 layer of resistance)

Zeno having void manipulation and being able to Erase Voids is also still currently on going....

Okay. Thank you for the summary.

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, have you reached any new conclusions here since earlier, or should we apply what has been accepted by our staff and close this thread?

 

[Vizer04]

We even see clouds on the void (matter), a empty should've NOTHING on it.

 

[Tarang123]

We even see clouds on the void (matter), a empty should've NOTHING on it.

It does, it just seems like visual effects

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

(Dies like a Man).

(Epic music playing: Two steps from hell OST).

 

[Ss3micah]

Anyway, have you reached any new conclusions here since earlier, or should we apply what has been accepted by our staff and close this thread?

I made sure to reread through the thread again just to make sure

S.Shenron having Void is alright (by AKM and Both Sides Debating)

Zeno being able to Bypass 1 Layer of Resistance with EE is alright (by Both sides Debating, haven't gotten any Staff Certification though)

Zeno having Void Manipulation AND being able to erase Voids: everyone (both sides) is currently settled on Possibly Void Manipulation and possibly Nothingness Interaction/Erasure (No Staff Certification though)

 

[Ruphas_Mafahl123]

I made sure to reread through the thread again just to make sure

S.Shenron having Void is alright (by AKM and Both Sides Debating)

Zeno being able to Bypass 1 Layer of Resistance with EE is alright (by Both sides Debating, haven't gotten any Staff Certification though)

Zeno having Void Manipulation AND being able to erase Voids: everyone (both sides) is currently settled on Possibly Void Manipulation and possibly Nothingness Interaction/Erasure (No Staff Certification though)

Although, if it's a possibly, I'm not sure if It should be applicable on VS debates, becouse you know, is a possibility.

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