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In the video, both Whis and Vados say that Hit created a separated space for him to use
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YesDidn’t hit create his own space and can store time?
He did, it's even stated in that same episode.Didn’t hit create his own space and can store time?
Zeno's feat is treated as EE now.I disagree with Void Manipulation for AKM's Reason, furthermore; the forum is now set up where searching for old threads and posts is a lot harder now. But we had a lot of discussions and it lead to the conclusion that Zeno nuked the timeline via a Ki Blast as opposed to Hakai'ing it. I believe ProudLearner or Ryukama were the ones who explained it best; though the latter probably may not remember entirely though I know the former explained it well last time.
I think void manip is a more broad term, so void manip might be alrYea, this is kind of covered under Existence Erasure; no need to belabor the obvious.
Dr strange says hi…Either way, he wouldn't be able to use Time stop on a void without time and space
Strange also brought his own time into the dark dimension. He even mentions that to dormammu.Dr strange says hi…
He did, it's literally stated.Still, we don't even know if Hit used his stored time.
Zeno didn't use a ki blast, he used erase.I disagree with Void Manipulation for AKM's Reason, furthermore; the forum is now set up where searching for old threads and posts is a lot harder now. But we had a lot of discussions and it lead to the conclusion that Zeno nuked the timeline via a Ki Blast as opposed to Hakai'ing it. I believe ProudLearner or Ryukama were the ones who explained it best; though the latter probably may not remember entirely though I know the former explained it well last time.
The only way hit can use time abilities in a timeless void is if he used his time storing power. There is nothing to speculate.Still, we don't even know if Hit used his stored time, I rather not speculate, even if the hypothesis may be logical.
There is no proof without further context, or an explanation done in verse, so......
Hey DDMI disagree with Void Manipulation for AKM's Reason, furthermore; the forum is now set up where searching for old threads and posts is a lot harder now. But we had a lot of discussions and it lead to the conclusion that Zeno nuked the timeline via a Ki Blast as opposed to Hakai'ing it. I believe ProudLearner or Ryukama were the ones who explained it best; though the latter probably may not remember entirely though I know the former explained it well last time.
When did he do that? He introduced time to dormammu. Logically, the time loop wouldn’t naturally workStrange also brought his own time into the dark dimension. He even mentions that to dormammu.
And yet it could be a mistake done by the writers, so if there isn't anymore context or explanation we can't take it for granted, we have to be 100% sure.The only way hit can use time abilities in a timeless void is if he used his time storing power. There is nothing to speculate.
I thought he agreed with creation for super shenronAKM was alright for Super Shenron having Void Manipulation
Since when? We have actual evidence for how hot manipulates time. At this point, you’re calling the “we can’t be sure” card when we actually can. Him using time-related abilities doesn’t debunk the realm having no time or space. Now, GP adding at least space due to adding gravity, so it’s likely that space and time are also thereAnd yet it could be a mistake done by the writers, so if there isn't anymore context or explanation we can't take it for granted, we have to be 100% sure.
It doesn't matter anyway since it's literally stated that he used stored time. There's nothing to debate here, really.abilities in a timeless void is if he used his time storing power. There is nothing to speculate.
"Likely" doesn't cut it. Statements and further context is needed.Since when? We have actual evidence for how hot manipulates time. At this point, you’re calling the “we can’t be sure” card when we actually can. Him using time-related abilities doesn’t debunk the realm having no time or space. Now, GP adding at least space due to adding gravity, so it’s likely that space and time are also there
Nope, not in the tournament.It doesn't matter anyway since it's literally stated that he used stored time. There's nothing to debate here, really.
Yes, in the tournament. They even linked you the episode.Nope, not in the tournament.
It didn't say anything about his time stored.Yes, in the tournament. They even linked you the episode.
It did. I'm not dumb my guy.It didn't say anything about his time stored.
This is grasping for strawsAnd yet it could be a mistake done by the writers, so if there isn't anymore context or explanation we can't take it for granted, we have to be 100% sure.
Nope, I didn't say it. And I rewatched the episodie lolIt did. I'm not dumb my guy.
Ah yeah an ability is introduced just before the tournament and when is used is apparently an mistake by the writersAnd yet it could be a mistake done by the writers, so if there isn't anymore context or explanation we can't take it for granted, we have to be 100% sure.
He said its still an aspect of void manipulation and that either works fineI thought he agreed with creation for super shenron
yeah sure. Whatever helps you sleep at nightNope, I didn't say it. And I rewatched the episodie lol
Maybe becouse we don't know if he used the stored time?, perhaps?Ah yeah an ability is introduced just before the tournament and when is used is apparently an mistake by the writers
Proof for that one guy who was asking about it and DDM2. That is mentioned under the heading "Creation", which is also an aspect of void manipulation. I guess either one works.
Idk guys, apparently I was just making things up
Yes, he stored time to create the dimension. But we don't know if he used it to use his time stop, anyways
Nope, in previous episodies and in that episodie from the TOP ARC, it was only stated applicable to create that pocket dimension, but there isn't any mention of time stop anyways.It's literally the justification for Jiren's time stop resistance
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