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MCU Phase 4 General Discussion Thread

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Also before someone does a CRT for them, I would propose a change to Thanos' profile to be included as well. Something like this
Universe level with the complete Infinity Gauntlet (Threatened to tear the universe down to its last atom and then remake it), possibly Universe level+ (The completed infinity gauntlet is likely comparable what Infinity Ultron's output); can ignore durability with many abilities
We need to note that Thanos wouldn't be able to replicate the successive amount of stuff Ultron can do though. Like Ultron did something like 15~ retcon punches and I'd imagine Thanos would be dead around punch two.
 
Ultron

Attack Potency:
City level+ (Should be comparable to Vision), possibly far higher (Destroyed Captain America's shield through unknown means), At least Island level with Mind Stone (Easily killed Thanos and melted the Infinity Gauntlet) | Universe level+ (His blows altered the universe he fought in. Fought and eventually overpowered the Watcher, who was stated by Doctor Strange Supreme to be able to fix the collapse of a timeline. WoG states that Ultron is legitimately punching through Universes across the Multiverse and turning them into one "Messy Universe Soup". Able to destroy galaxies with a thought. Can harm The Watcher who survived being attacked by Ultron at this size. Casually destroyed multiple planets at once. Stated to have wipe out all life in the Universe in an unknown time frame.)

At least Class T, likely higher (Easily broke free of Captain Marvel's grip on him)

The Watcher

Attack Potency: Universe level+ (Stated to be able to fix the collapse of a timeline by Doctor Strange Supreme. Doctor Strange Supreme saw the Uatu as far more powerful than him. Could somewhat hold his own against Infinite Ultron)
I’m pretty sure the WoG was talking about him destroying multiverses not universes
 
destroying multiverses
There's only one Multiverse in the MCU. Unless we want to rate Infinity Ultron higher since getting to another multiverse would involve crossing Oblivion.

All of his feats top out at Low 2-C and he doesn't have the backing for 2-A. If he did he would just blow up the multiverse.
 
There's only one Multiverse in the MCU. Unless we want to rate Infinity Ultron higher since getting to another multiverse would involve crossing Oblivion.

All of his feats top out at Low 2-C and he doesn't have the backing for 2-A. If he did he would just blow up the multiverse.
Considering the fact venoms universe, rami’s universe, and Andrew Garfield universe are a thing for the mcu I’m not so sure about that.

probably not since he described genocide as fun and probably tried to take as long as he could to kill people and stuff
 
Also before someone does a CRT for them, I would propose a change to Thanos' profile to be included as well. Something like this

We need to note that Thanos wouldn't be able to replicate the successive amount of stuff Ultron can do though. Like Ultron did something like 15~ retcon punches and I'd imagine Thanos would be dead around punch two.
He'd probably be fatally crippled beyond healing by just doing one tbh
 
Considering the fact venoms universe, rami’s universe, and Andrew Garfield universe are a thing for the mcu
Alt universes aren't different multiverses.
probably not since he described genocide as fun
Strange Supreme struggled dealing with a single universal collapse, but was able to hold off Ultron rather well. Its more consistent if both are Low 2-C than if both are 2-A.

What If when out of its way to show giant displays of power. If they wanted Ultron to nuke a multiverse they would say it or show it.
 
Some people are just like, super basic. Look at MCU Hulk or Doomsday.
I mean he's a robot yet he doesn't have any type of inorganic physiology and he gets High 6-A via prep time yet preparation isn't listed on his P&A section. I get that simple brick/basic characters won't have too many P&A but with the newer profiles from "What if...?" I can't help but notice that some of the older MCU (and similar verses) profiles are pretty dated in comparison.
 
Alt universes aren't different multiverses.

Strange Supreme struggled dealing with a single universal collapse, but was able to hold off Ultron rather well. Its more consistent if both are Low 2-C than if both are 2-A.

What If when out of its way to show giant displays of power. If they wanted Ultron to nuke a multiverse they would say it or show it.
Well see when NWH comes out

that’s more due to him destroying a large structure of the universe and not knowing how to put it back together(seeing as destroying the absolute point was all he was thinking of at the time) rather then him not having the power to stop the collapse. Plus if that was his actually power lvl then he should have gotten Uber stomped after vultron got the soul stone back since he was throwing out retconning punches with out much diff.

they already did in wog
 
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