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I agree with Gin's proposal for the negation part, too.

As for my own take:

"Interdimensional range" He said he opened a gate, not one of his gates of babylon, maybe adding more scans of the context as to what this gate is would be useful, if is legit it would also for count portal creation.

"Gil's treasure" I'm not comfortable about giving Gil muramasa's weapon, mostly because this was created thanks to Unlimited Blade Works' near unlimited creation of swords, making sorta a original servant weapon (Like Archer's variation of certain NPs). I don't know if can you reliably say that Gilgamesh can have the prototype of any weapon done including servants (But I don't know that myself so lol at that).

"Luck" Is not saying its done by mere will, one of them (I assume the servant-possesed waver) is saying that luck already happened, and what already happened is luckily working on your favor.

Whatever I didn't questione can be fine, I guess.
 
"Interdimensional range" He said he opened a gate, not one of his gates of babylon, maybe adding more scans of the context as to what this gate is would be useful, if is legit it would also for count portal creation.
so far the gate gil always refers to is GoB, nothing else. before that gil also said Gate of Babylon
"Gil's treasure" I'm not comfortable about giving Gil muramasa's weapon, mostly because this was created thanks to Unlimited Blade Works' near unlimited creation of swords, making sorta a original servant weapon (Like Archer's variation of certain NPs). I don't know if can you reliably say that Gilgamesh can have the prototype of any weapon done including servants (But I don't know that myself so lol at that).
Muramasa's sword is not only made in NP unlimited blade works, he made it Manually like Myoujingiri muramasa.
I wouldn't say gil has a muramasa weapon, but he should have a prototype with the exact abilities, because he is the beginning of history
"Luck" Is not saying its done by mere will, one of them (I assume the servant-possesed waver) is saying that luck already happened, and what already happened is luckily working on your favor.
maybe it's not what you will, but luck works like fate manipulation and reality warping, for example a taiga who has luck rank EX she is able to make meteors change direction so they don't hit the earth with just her luck
 
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So far I agree with everything except Muramasa's sword.

If I understand correctly, that's not the final product he has in that image. The final version of his sword required all the swords in Unlimited Blade Works, if I'm not mistaken, and wasn't forged manually. Gilgamesh possessing it, or a sword with all its properties, would contradict its nature and that of UBW and how it compared to GOB.
 
So far I agree with everything except Muramasa's sword.

If I understand correctly, that's not the final product he has in that image. The final version of his sword required all the swords in Unlimited Blade Works, if I'm not mistaken, and wasn't forged manually. Gilgamesh possessing it, or a sword with all its properties, would contradict its nature and that of UBW and how it compared to GOB.
myoujingiri muramasa sword doesn't need to use NP (unlimited blade works) to make it

And it is able to cut through karma, fate and soul. as stated on her profile
Myoujingiri Muramasa: A blade forged by the legendary sword smith Muramasa. It allows her to cut "karma", and is able to sever causality, or "certainty". This would be a combination of Fate Manipulation and Causality Manipulation. The sword also lets her interact and cut the Heroic Spirit Swordmaster's Spirit Cores in the ether. Normally, Spirit Cores are tied to a Servant's heart or brain, but they only exist ethereally for Heroic Spirit Swordmasters. In other words, she can cut her target's soul.
 
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I just think gil should have the exact hax, but that doesn't mean he has the real sword that muramasa made

gil has all the prototypes made by mankind, that's why he must have the hax made by them
 
I do wonder where you're getting these lists of names, considering I've said, on at least 5 separate occasions now, that I'm no longer following this verse, have not been doing so for well over a year, have removed my name from every single Nasuverse page, as well as every Nasu-related verse on the Knowledgeable Members List, and have explicitly asked multiple times not to mention me for a response in Nasu-related threads.

I believe I've been more than reasonable in all my past requests, and frankly, I'm getting the slightest inkling that I'm just being flat-out ignored. I am sure that isn't the case, so then one must wonder whether this continued disregard for my past requests is actually deliberate; and if this is still not the case, one must then wonder if perhaps the one I am making such respectful requests to does not have the personal responsibility to make such a minor adjustment to whatever clearly-outdated document he is pulling these usernames from; in which case, I am of the mind that some disrespect is perhaps warranted.

So forgive me if I sound rude, but I am really getting sick of being brushed off.
 
Solacis:

You are still listed here:


I unfortunately have too many tasks to keep track of which members that do not wish me to call for them, but you can remove yourself from that page if you wish.
 
Anyway, should we go with what Gin and Newendigo have accepted then?
 
I meant what both have accepted in combination.

Anyway, we can wait a while then.
 
Summary :

GILGAMESH

•Resistance to transmutation : everyone agree
•interdimensional range : everyone agree, newendigo still questioning about this
•gil's treasure : everyone agree except creaturemaster971, and newendigo still questioning about this
•BFR : most of them disagree

RULER (ARTORIA)

•teleportation : everyone agree
•(soul, concept, info) manipulation : everyone agree

SENJI MURAMASA

•Fate hax work on type 4 acausality : everyone agree

AMAKUSA SHIROU TOKISADA

•pocket reality manipulation, transmutation, fire manipulation, and poison manipulation via reality marble : everyone agree
•dimensional travel : everyone agree
•darkness manipulation : everyone agree
•danmaku/portal creation : it seems that no one disagrees

SERVANT PHYSIOLOGY OR ANYTHING ABOUT ELSE

•resistance to madness manipulation type 3 : everyone agree
•minor reality warping for luck : everyone agree, newendigo still questioning about this
•conceptual weapon adding spatial manipulation, law manipulation, regeneration negation (based on causality negation) and type 4 immortality negation according to gin's proposal : it seems everyone is fine
 
It would help if you carefully read through and follow the instructions in our Common Editing Mistakes page, so no badly structured edits are made, and extensive cleanup work will not be necessary.
 
Give the info needed for the refences, since the scans already are there are the things is easy.
GILGAMESH

•Resistance to transmutation : fate grand order : event new york, section 2
•interdimensional range with GoB : fate grand order : event new york, section 2
•gil's treasure : fate stay night : visual novel, (it's already on his profile btw)
•BFR : most of them disagree

RULER (ARTORIA)

•teleportation : fate grand order : event las vegas, section 32
•(soul, concept, info) manipulation : fate grand order : event las vegas

SENJI MURAMASA

•Fate hax work on type 4 acausality : fate grand order part 1.5 : shimosa, section 15

AMAKUSA SHIROU TOKISADA

•pocket reality manipulation, transmutation, fire manipulation, and poison manipulation via reality marble : fate grand order part 1.5 : shimosa, section 15
•dimensional travel : fate grand order part 1.5 : shimosa, section 15
•darkness manipulation : fate grand order part 1.5 : shimosa, section 15
•danmaku/portal creation : fate apocrypha : anime, episode 24

SERVANT PHYSIOLOGY OR ANYTHING ABOUT ELSE

•resistance to madness manipulation type 3 : fate grand order : event las vegas, section 13
•minor reality warping for luck : fate grand order part 1 : septem, section 11
•conceptual weapon adding spatial manipulation, law manipulation, regeneration negation (based on causality negation) and type 4 immortality negation according to gin's proposal : Here

Like this?
 
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the part that hasn't been gil and servant physiology because it's locked and some have been edited by Ecstasy_Amphetamine

Except danmaku/portal and darkness manipulation stuff because Ecstasy disagree, do you think this is fine? if yes then it can also be added
 
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Can somebody link to the pages that you need unlocked please?
 
Okay. I will unlock them for you. Tell me here when you are done.
 
is this fine ?

ishtar
Gilgamesh
ruler artoria
muramasa
  • added ( said ability/abilities bypasses normal resistance since it worked on Shirou Kotomine who has type 4 acausality[10)
amakusa
Avenger
servant physiology
 
is this fine ?

ishtar
Gilgamesh
ruler artoria
muramasa
  • added ( said ability/abilities bypasses normal resistance since it worked on Shirou Kotomine who has type 4 acausality[10)
amakusa
Avenger
servant physiology
Yes that's good
 
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