MCU tiers scaling around Thanos

[Rez]

Because Thanos is able to casually damage the suits armor.

That's only after thanos power stone amped punch before that he wasn't able to do it

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

That's only after thanos power stone amped punch before that he wasn't able to do it

He was able to do it without the power stone. A single punch knocked the armor away and even left a permanant scar on it, and Thanos even ripped off his helmet.

Plus his power + the power stone blew off a good chunk off the armor.

 

[Rez]

He was able to do it without the power stone. A single punch knocked the armor away and even left a permanant scar on it, and Thanos even ripped off his helmet.

Yeah that only happened after the power stone amped punch blew away what was probably 1/3 of the armour even then Tony was absolutely fine and capable of fighting back

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Yeah that only happened after the power stone amped punch blew away what was probably 1/3 of the armour even then Tony was absolutely fine and capable of fighting back

No, those were before tony was hit by the power stone punch.

 

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[Rez]

No, those were before tony was hit by the power stone punch.

No they weren't

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

No they weren't

Rewatch it then. Show me the sequence of events using the time stamps

 

[Rez]

Rewatch it then. Show me the sequence of events using the time stamps

Tanks Thanos's punch at 0:32
Power stone amped beam at 0:39
Tanks Thanos's beatdown and power stone amped punch at 0:55
Block Thanos's punch at 1:16 (The punch doesnt look that serious so it can be ignored)

You are the one who needs to rewatch

 

[Rez]

The punch happens exactly 5 seconds after the beatdown

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

At 0:30, Thanos rips off Tony's helmet and punches him away, leaving a permanent silver scar.

At 0:40, Thanos shoots a beam and Tony has to deploy a shield to block it, and even then, he's still pushed back

At 0:52, Thanos breaks out of Iron Man's foot thing casually

At 0:55, Thanos continuously pounds on Iron Man's armor, breaking off pieces of it

At 1:01, Thanos finally punches Iron Man with the power stone, the attack destroys a good chunk of the armor

Now are we watching the same fight scene?

 

[Rez]

At 0:30, Thanos rips off Ton'y helmet, leaving a permanent silver scar.



At 0:52, Thanos breaks out of Iron Man's foot thing casually

Lifting strength

At 0:55, Thanos continuously pounds on Iron Man's armor, breaking off pieces of it

Minor pieces nothing serious meaning Tony will still scale to it

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Lifting strength

Those still require AP in order to break out of it. Crushing feats like that are LS + AP

 

[Rez]

Those still require AP in order to break out of it. Crushing feats like that are LS + AP

Oh cool you just proved my point and the foothold thing doesn't effect in Tony's dura in anyway

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Oh cool you just proved my point and the foothold thing doesn't effect in Tony's dura in anyway

It's made of the same thing as his armor, like you said with the shield. Assuming those are equal in dura to his armor, that still means Thanos is able to casually break his armor.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Plus, Thanos was barely able to use the infinity Gauntlet without harming himself, Iron Man pretty much died after using it once. Hulk only survived because he was stated to be resistant to the radiation.

 

[Rez]

Assuming those are equal in dura to his armor, that still means Thanos is able to casually break his armor.

Expect the armour has clearly shown to be able to tank multiple of those punches abd hits

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

And it we saw it getting broken off by those punches.

 

[Rez]

Plus, Thanos was barely able to use the infinity Gauntlet without harming himself, Iron Man pretty much died after using it once. Hulk only survived because he was stated to be resistant to the radiation.

What does gauntlet has to do with any of this? We are talking about the armour's durability not Tony's he is just a regular human

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

What does gauntlet has to do with any of this? We are talking about the armour's durability not Tony's he is just a regular human

Th armor got pretty ****** up after using the gauntlet once.

 

[Rez]

And it we saw it getting broken off by those punches.

Expect it wasn't only minor pieces were broken which means it still scales and before that the armour tanked hits without even breaking at all. The actual breaking part happens after the power stone amped punch

 

[Rez]

Th armor got pretty ****** up after using the gauntlet once.

The armour was ****** before that too so it wasn't at it's best condition

 

[Rez]

Th armor got pretty ****** up after using the gauntlet once.

And Tony is not resistant to radiation either

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Expect it wasn't only minor pieces were broken which means it still scales and before that the armour tanked hits without even breaking at all. The actual breaking part happens after the power stone amped punch

Yeah, it still got broken off, I wouldn't call that "Tanking a 6-C attack"

The armour was ****** before that too so it wasn't at it's best condition

It destroyed a majority of the right section of his armor

 

[Rez]

Yeah, it still got broken off, I wouldn't call that "Tanking a 6-C attack"

It's taking the damage was minimal it scales as long as nothing serious happens and that barely caused any damage

 

[Rez]

It destroyed a majority of the right section of his armor

It's radiation (radiation harms inorganic stuff too) too and Tony used the armour as gauntlet something it wasn't made for

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It's taking the damage was minimal it scales as long as nothing serious happens and that barely caused any damage

It's still noticeable damage tho? Being able to break off entire armor sections is not considered "Minor damage". Plus the fact Thanos is very barely (And I mean by only 0.4 Gigatons)above baseline, that in itself should back Tony downscaling to High 7-A+

 

[Rez]

It's still noticeable damage tho? Being able to break off entire armor sections is not considered "Minor damage". Plus the fact Thanos is very barely (And I mean by only 0.4 Gigatons)above baseline, that in itself should back Tony downscaling to High 7-A+

Thanos's strikes didn't break an entire section though they barely caused big scratches

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

They still blew off chunks of his armor, he could still tear off a helmet and easily break out of Tony's foot thing. Tony is still harmed by Thanos' attacks. And again, Thanos is barely above baseline, so Tony would downscale either way, there's no way his dura is on par with Thanos' AP

 

[Rez]

They still blew off chunks of his armor,

Minor scratches at best

 

[Rez]

he could still tear off a helmet and easily break out of Tony's foot thing.

You are the one who said the shield shouldn't scale to Tony's dura so why would the foot thing scale

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Minor scratches at best

He still broke off some of his armor. And you're ignoring the other points

 

[Rez]

He still broke off some of his armor. And you're ignoring the other points

No he didn't those were just some minor scratches nothing big enough that Tony won't scale

 

[Rez]

Also Thor's hammer caused no harm to the armour either

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

You are the one who said the shield shouldn't scale to Tony's dura so why would the foot thing scale

I concede to the shield thing. But that still wouldn't mean that Tony should scale to 6-C.

No he didn't those were just some minor scratches nothing big enough that Tony won't scale

Are you sure, because I just saw his left face fall off despite the fact he had his arms up. Thanos is even able to slap away Tony's remaining armor and break off his remaining sglove

 

[Rez]

Are you sure, because I just saw his left face fall off despite the fact he had his arms up. Thanos is even able to slap away Tony's remaining armor and break off his remaining sglove

It's still there only the outer layer falled off which is why it's a scratch and the second part happens after power stone amped punch

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

It's still there only the outer layer falled off which is why it's a scratch and the second part happens after power stone amped punch

That shouldn't the remaining armor suddenly had significant decrease in durability

 

[Rez]

That shouldn't the remaining armor suddenly had significant decrease in durability

The power stone hit may have only broken a part of the armour but the damage was still caused to the entire armour not just a part of it

 

[Rez]

Not to mention the armour managed to take the entire damage or else Tony would have been dead from that hit. So baseline 6-C durability at peak should be fine

 

[Rez]

And also when you will beat something with stronger and stronger strikes it will just get weaker not better

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

And also when you will beat something with stronger and stronger strikes it will just get weaker not better and not to mention metal is brittle

How is Metal, especially high end nuclear level Metal, brittle?

Not to mention the armour managed to take the entire damage or else Tony would have been dead from that hit. So baseline 6-C durability at peak should be fine

Thanos is barely baseline? Why would Iron Man scale to his level, when there's not a single instance Iron Man fully tanks a hit from Thanos. And I still don't see why Iron Man should scale to an attack that blew off most of him.