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If that's the case, then I don't think Hela has reason to be 6-C for that
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MCU tiers scaling around Thanos
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She was also strong enough that Odin couldn't kill her but had to seal her he also states she has "limitless power". She also drew blood from full power Surtur. Also the gauntlet was made of uru which survived 5 gigatons and hela casually broke the mjonir which is made of the same material
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Mjonir's AP probably varies with users, but its durability logically should not. Hela also has other reasons for being 6-C like Dalesean stated.
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Time stone's range needs an upgrade because of this
From time stop page:
Unless users are shown or stated to have limits in terms of range, or that their ranges extend to areas beyond the universe, then they are assumed to be universal or higher by the virtue of affecting the very flow of time itself, thus all of time in the universe.
From time stop page:
Unless users are shown or stated to have limits in terms of range, or that their ranges extend to areas beyond the universe, then they are assumed to be universal or higher by the virtue of affecting the very flow of time itself, thus all of time in the universe.
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And this too
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That was the justification as to why we had Mjolnir Cap above pre-Awakened Thor.
Also the enchantment is "Whoever is worthy shall possess the power of Thor", which seems to back the idea that it would get stronger as Thor gets stronger.
As for Hela she's canonically worthy but probably didn't need a power amp to crush a weapon used by someone a tier under here.
Finally if we're giving the stoned a Tier 2 rating just make the IG up to 3-A since that wouldn't be an outlier statement anymore. But really it's not 2-C imo. Just that when Dormammu started to absorb the material word, as Strange himself said, time was linked to the Dark Dimension. I wouldn't call that the stone but rather universe merging shenanigans.
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Hela beat up Thor, so she should be 6-C (And the IG feat mentioned earlier)
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Isn't she already 6-C
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Yes I don't know why people are still discussing her tbh
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Does strange ever harm Thanos? All I remember is him restraining him which I guess is Class To for strange but I dunno if it counts as AP
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He also cancelled out several IG attacks if that's worth anything.
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I'm pretty sure the IG's attacks were more hax than AP?
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Strange is able to block physical hits from thanos with his shields as well so even if they do have a hax battle later.
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I guess that counts for durability only?
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Strange’s offensive spells come from the same energy as his defensive ones, no? They should be comparable to one another.
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I don't think that's notable enough to upgrade him.
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Iron man's armor changes parts of it to attack better, this probably shouldn't scale to his normal strength and toughness
The only hits that really "hurt" him from iroman was the energy propelled kick, the attack that made him recoil required that Iroman hit the ground and the blow that made him bleed also had energy (the missiles did nothing to him)
Thanos' blows can literally destroy armor, thanos could even break Iroman's helmet just by grabbing it
there is a moment when he starts hitting him and the hits make Iroman bleed, which means that thanos can break through the armor's defenses
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Everyone is fine where they currently are Strange needs upgrades where they're due but other than that no one has really any notable reasons to be upgraded a tier or downgraded a tier. The stones should get their upgrades along with strange.
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Of course he can destroy it and the helmet part is lifting strength so is breaking the armour's sword like weapon and in the last part of the video you sent iron man literally tanks multiple of his hits which includes a power stone amped attack just because it made him bleed doesn't disregard the fact iron man tanked it
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And why will these not scale with his ap they are not done via hax and one of the hits even made Thanos bleed
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Iron man also tanked Thanos's meteor so his dura and ap are consistent in the movie. Also these feats can't and mustn't be dismissed as outliners at all because this is the first time bleeding edge armour makes it's appearance in the MCU and it's feats are consistent after it's appearance
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They're spells, no ki blasts. You would need solid evidence that Strange's offensive spells can match his defensive shields.
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Survived but thanos broke the armor little by little, you can see the cracks, plus I'm sure I sent a clean hit that his armor can't stand (in the "literally")
I'm not saying don't scale to your Ap, but don't scale to your normal Ap (something like 7-A B or C higher with weapon creation)
-He blocked it with his arms and still pushed him to the ground long enough to remove the blockage in his glove.
-If the shield had the same resistance as the armor itself then the shield would not be necessary.
-False, when he uses the gem it lights up, looking at the scene well it did not do it when I hit it and the "beatdown" I don't think it shows anything
Thanos' meteors are calculated as Low 7-B or 7-B, support both that Iroman is 6-c and that it is high7-A or 7-A or 7-B or Low 7-B
and his feats are consistent for Ironman being weaker than Thanos (I think even 7-B or Low 7-B, but that's a theme for another time),
just in case keep in mind that a stronger Iroman makes these characters stronger by sheer escaping with the a:
Cull Obsidian
Bruce Banner's Hulkbuster
Giant-man
Rescue Armor
Extra: his normal shots don't do anything to him and A header sends Iron man flying
Note: In the place where I live I already have to sleep(it's 1:54 in the morning), so don't expect an immediate response
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His shield isn't made from vibranium it's made up of armour's nano tech
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Tony tanked hits from power stone amped Thanos(which is higher than his regular ap) and from Thor's hammer in endgame (again the armour was completely unharmed Tony was only knocked out because of lighting) so he does have 6-C dura feats
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Thanos could not escape any of Strange's magic without using the power stone. Shields are a basic ability that all sorcerers know. Strange's magical offense have better feats than his defense, not to say it is weak, but just has stronger feats.
Then wouldn't all the other stones have the same range as well?
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