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No. It eats time and space-time along with HRs are part of itself.

It does, however, travel in the distance between timelines, which is stated to be larger than the timelines themselves. I'd need to find the scan for that though.
Moving between universes isn't really an Immeasurable feat.


If there really isn't anything else then I don't see why it should have Immeasurable speed.
 
HRE is too big that it was stated even space and time is a part of him tho
Not Immeasurable. Just Large Size.
So moving through an entire timeline with speed isn't an immeasurable feat?
He's moving through a timeline's worth of space. Not the same as moving so fast that you move through time with speed that's faster than instantaneous.

Immeasurable isn't quite as simple as that.
 
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He's moving through a timeline's worth of space. Not the same as moving so fast that you move through time with speed that's faster than instantaneous.

Immeasurable isn't quite as simple as that.
If characters can be MFTL+ due size alone, why cant them be Immeasurable due it
 
Not Immeasurable. Just Large Size.
Why Wouldn't that give him immesurable speed via sheer size? I mean being too big to the point where space and time is a part you clearly means you can move along with past, future, present at the same time due to your size which is a clear cut immesurable speed just like being as big as a galaxie would give you MFTL+ speed via sheer size since it proves you can move between galaxies very easily due to your size
 
If you people seriously feel that being the size of a universe or more should grant Immeasurable speed then feel free to make that revision. Get back to the thread then because this isn't the place to go over standards.
 
If you people seriously feel that being the size of a universe or more should grant Immeasurable speed then feel free to make that revision. Get back to the thread then because this isn't the place to go over standards.
Being too big to the point where space and time is a part you clearly proves you can move along with past, future, present at the same time which is immusurable speed you have yet bring an actual counter argument that's literally like saying being bigger than a galaxy doesn't give MFTL+ speed
 
Being too big to the point where space and time is a part you clearly proves you can move along with past, future, present at the same time which is immusurable speed you have yet bring an actual counter argument that's literally like saying being bigger than a galaxy doesn't give MFTL+ speed
No, it just means you have range. There's a difference between reaching into a temporal dimension via size and moving so fast that you can move through it.

What you're talking about is just not a thing here anyway.
 
No, it just means you have range. There's a difference between reaching into a temporal dimension via size and moving so fast that you can move through it.

What you're talking about is just not a thing here anyway.
So being as big as a galaxy doesn't give MTL+ speed?
 
Being too big to the point where space and time is a part you clearly proves you can move along with past, future, present at the same time which is immusurable speed you have yet bring an actual counter argument that's literally like saying being bigger than a galaxy doesn't give MFTL+ speed
Ughh no there is a reason why many omnipresent characters don't have immeasurable speed
 
Just repeating this same question isn't going to change that none of this is Immeasurable, so stopping wasting time or I will be deleting these pointless posts. Go create a CRT or whatever, but don't waste time here.
 
So being as big as a galaxy doesn't give MTL+ speed?
Technically, no. Only if one moves a notable distance proportional to their bodies. Even then, Immeasurable isn't a defined speed so the comparison is ridiculous.

Make a CRT and when you get this accepted, come back here.
 
Technically, no. Only if one moves a notable distance proportional to their bodies. Even then, Immeasurable isn't a defined speed so the comparison is ridiculous.

Make a CRT and when you get this accepted, come back here.
Is true that HRE traveled through time to escape Yogiri's a ability, however, there is no mention that he traveled to the future, past or present, so It isn't time travel as many people may think, in the novel was refering to the present of how HRE was moving through time. So yeah, Inmensurable by that.
 
Just repeating this same question isn't going to change that none of this is Immeasurable, so stopping wasting time or I will be deleting these pointless posts. Go create a CRT or whatever, but don't waste time here.
Calm down, we understand that here is not the place to discuss this, however, there is no need to be that agressive. We are just discussing a topic that Planck started about HRE's Inmensurable speed, which could also be a very important element on this CRT
 
Is true that HRE traveled through time to escape Yogiri's a ability, however, there is no mention that he traveled to the future, past or present, so It isn't time travel as many people may think, in the novel was refering to the present of how HRE was moving through time. So yeah, Inmensurable by that.
Therw probably has notes and scans about it in yogiri page, i can try to search it latter
 
Calm down, we understand that here is not the place to discuss this, however, there is no need to be that agressive. We are just discussing a topic that Planck started about HRE's Inmensurable speed, which could also be a very important element on this CRT
His response is perfectly calm and reasonable. I ask for Immeasurable speed feats and it spirals into derail involving standards the wiki doesn't have.


Anyway, can you send the scans for the Record Eater moving through time?
 
The movement in its ,I presume, human avatar seems promising, though it looks more to be time travel than raw speed. Unless there's additional context to it.
 
The movement in its ,I presume, human avatar seems promising, though it looks more to be time travel than raw speed. Unless there's additional context to it.
The human avatar is simply a Lite version of the HRE, so it can naturally do everything that the former is capable of (except for entering a HR with its true form due to its large size). As for additional context, when Darian used the ability to time travel, it created a new timeline/parallel world, but the same thing doesn't happen in this case. So, take it as you will I guess.
 
Is there any text stating that time travel will generally cause new timelines to pop up?
Yeah, in the novel. Also, if It was time travel, the text should've implied that HRE'S avatar traveled to the past or future, or that It went forward on time, but it didn't, nor sideffect was explicity stated, so is 100% sure that is raw speed
 
Yeah, in the novel. Also, if It was time travel, the text should've implied that HRE'S avatar traveled to the past or future, or that It went forward on time, but it didn't, nor sideffect was explicity stated, so is 100% sure that is raw speed
It points out that he went back. And can you supply the scan.
 
It points out that he went back. And can you supply the scan.
Let's wait for Oblivion or Gemstic, they can provide you the scan, Darian is the one that used the ability to time travel and It coused that sideffect. That works similar to Dragon Ball, that when you go backwards or forward on time and you change something, a new timeline is created.
 
Well, if you guys pay attention at the raws it says: "Despite moving backwards ten seconds, nothing had been altered".

There, you could see how it describes movement, so this means that HRE is literally moving through time, this is literally the same as Flash can do, Flash has Inmensurable speed, becouse his raw speed is so fast that he can travel through time.
 
Here are what should be Darian's relevant scans.
As shown by the scan provided, when Darian goes to the past via time travel, it pops up a new timeline from that point in time and he's forced to exist in there. (not to be confused with purposefully time traveling to another timeline/parallel world, as it doesn't even exist before the time travel happens)

In any case, I already raised my doubt about the current justification for HRE's immeasurable speed in our conversation, so this's a good opportunity to fix the debatable things.
 
In any case, I already raised my doubt about the current justification for HRE's immeasurable speed in our conversation, so this's a good opportunity to fix the debatable things.
Well, if you guys pay attention at the raws it says: "Despite moving backwards ten seconds, nothing had been altered".
 
I think it is from the light novel official/fan English translation; raws usually refer to the series's text in its official language if it is not in English.
Ah I see, I think It would be better to calle them scans thought.

Anyway,
Elizha, what do you think about the quote I posted?
 
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