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from it the statement i saw it doesn't indicate thatI mean she can blow up higher D universes after transcending them, no ?
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from it the statement i saw it doesn't indicate thatI mean she can blow up higher D universes after transcending them, no ?
"UEG explored the area. The darkness went on forever, really forever. It goes on and on, endlessly, as far as UEG's perception can go. Then she tried to find another dimension, another parallel world, another universe, but that didn't work either. What she see is nothing but emptiness. There really is nothing here. Realizing this, UEG was slowly beginning to feel fear. No matter where she tried to go, there was nothing. As long as there was nothing, there was nowhere to travel to. "Well, then! I'll destroy everything! Space-time! The universe! The higher universes, including that one too!" UEG unleashed all of her power with all of her might, but the power that was supposed to destroy everything disappeared into the void. The power of UEG had no effect on the surroundings. "It's useless. There's nothing here. You can't destroy something that isn't there."
I'm pretty sure she made that statement only after she reached those higher universes after her fight with Toichiro and she wasn't in a nonexistent realm she was inside of Yogiri True form who embody the whole ID cosmology iircthe statement is here
yeah now that i double checked yeah she didn't reach the higher universes she was in a nonexistent realm
She was inside of Yogiri true formyeah now that i double checked yeah she didn't reach the higher universes she was in a nonexistent realm
Then wouldn't it be better if she had a low 1-C key?1. She already reached the 1-B "transcendence" after transcending through higher space times continuum, thus she's 1-B.
2. The point of Low 1-C, would eventually be 1-B, would only be valid if said feats only happen hypothetically or rather if it was stated they are "about" to transcend to into a 1-B realm, however that's not the case, since we know she already reached a 1-B state
3. She needed to transcends through higher space-times because they already destroyed the lower ones.
why? She already reached a higher state (1-B) lmao, that'll be redundant.Then wouldn't it be better if she had a low 1-C key?
That's basically what i said.1. She already reached the 1-B "transcendence" after transcending through higher space times continuum, thus she's 1-B.
IIRC she didn't reach 1-B yet it was literally stated that if she continued fighting with Toichiro endlessly then they would eventually reach an 1-B state by transcending higher space-times contenum endlessly2. The point of Low 1-C, would eventually be 1-B, would only be valid if said feats only happen hypothetically or rather if it was stated they are "about" to transcend to into a 1-B realm, however that's not the case, since we know she already reached a 1-B state
Then you agree that it should stay the same then.That's basically what i said.
Nope. It says that they already reached it after endlessly transcending thus they are already 1-B. Also they already kept on transcending from the start. and like I said above; a "eventually reach (tier)" would only happen if said feat is hypothetically or didn't happen yet, but is about to. UEG already reached it before the battle suddenly came to a halt.IIRC she didn't reach 1-B yet it was literally stated that if she continued fighting with Toichiro endlessly then they would eventually reach an 1-B state
I somewhat agree with this view on light speed.I disagree with the downgrade of the speed, anyways, the relativistic+ feat was just Reaction and combat speed while the supersonic feat was Flight speed, it inst a problem to have flight speed with relativistic+ reaction speed
anyways, I agree with the rest
Additionally, if a series is very close to lightspeed or exceeds it in several other calcs and scenarios (such as what is seen in DBZ), there is less of a burden of proof to show that the laser is a true laser.
ID doesnt have infinite speed, only immeasurable, but yehI'd like to also quote the following in addition to what Elizhaa mentioned:
ID has infinite and even Immeasurable speed feats, so it'd make sense for powerful and authoritative figures like Sages or Gods to have real lightspeed attacks.
ID does have infinite speed. For example, the user of Omega Blade can affect the target no matter how far they're in the universe.ID doesnt have infinite speed, only immeasurable, but yeh
This further makes the lightspeed feats even easier to accept.『光速移動する能力が、タカトーヨギリに敗れました』
『The ability to move at the Speed of Light has been defeated by Yogiri Takatou』
ID has Immeasurable speed, not InfiniteID does have infinite speed. For example, the user of Omega Blade can affect the target no matter how far they're in the universe.
If it wasn't obvious enough, I've been talking about the "ID series" this whole time.ID has Immeasurable speed, not Infinite
Me and Elizhaa already explainedI agree with the decrease in speed. Where can the characters have a speed of light if supersonic is everywhere?
I disagree with the downgrade of the speed, anyways, the relativistic+ feat was just Reaction and combat speed while the supersonic feat was Flight speed, it inst a problem to have flight speed with relativistic+ reaction speed
anyways, I agree with the rest
I somewhat agree with this view on light speed.
Reliable sources make roughly all the statements on the light which support light beam be actual light. Additionally, Raisa, a saint, which the narrative stated could follow the movement at the speed of light, which is an Option 4 Statement. Moreover, Raisa's comments earlier on the matter would be Option 2 Statements as saints are primary authoritative sources (Volume 5 Chapter 15); these statements lend more credence to light being valid.
So, I would argue two criteria are least meet. Currently, without major anti-feats, only a few criteria (few can mean two or more) are needed.
The other things look fine.
If the evidence for the god's manipulation of heavenly records is found, I guess it could work for a tier update.
Leave that for another thread my guy.This might be off topic but can anyone give me a scan about ID bypassing 20 layers of defense to Instant Death?
WhatL, given that the light novel does not have a numerical indication of the speed of light or movement at such distances in a second.
Looking through this, most of it looks good.
That being said, I looked at the Heavenly Record Eater's profile. Why does it have Immeasurable speed exactly
HRE is bigger than timelines and is capable of traversing distances bigger than what a HR's timeline can cover. His attacks (or bites) essentially affects the past, present and future of a universe/space-time continuum.
Well it would be very appreciated if someone just give me a scan nowLeave that for another thread my guy.
Level resistance kinda makes the 20 layers thing useless anyway; since it's already higher.
Pretty sure this would also make you immesurable in terms of attack speedAffecting the past, present and future of a space-time continuum is just having Universal+ range.
No, it doesn't. This is literally just what happens when someone busts a space-time continuum.Pretty sure this would also make you immesurable in terms of attack speed
No. It eats time and space-time along with HRs are part of itself.Does it have anything other than this? Like, I heard it swam through time. This true?
Well it was stated that space and time are just a part of himself Idk if this does helpNo, it doesn't. This is literally just what happens when someone busts a space-time continuum.
It can in some very specific context but not by default.