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from it the statement i saw it doesn't indicate that
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Instant Death Low 7-B Revisions and Fujitakaverse Tier 1 Fallout
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I'm pretty sure she made that statement only after she reached those higher universes after her fight with Toichiro and she wasn't in a nonexistent realm she was inside of Yogiri True form who embody the whole ID cosmology iirc
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She was inside of Yogiri true form
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Also if she was originally 1-B to begin with then why she did need to go/transcends through higher space-times contenum in order to fight Toichiro?
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1. She already reached the 1-B "transcendence" after transcending through higher space times continuum, thus she's 1-B.
2. The point of Low 1-C, would eventually be 1-B, would only be valid if said feats only happen hypothetically or rather if it was stated they are "about" to transcend to into a 1-B realm, however that's not the case, since we know she already reached a 1-B state
3. She needed to transcends through higher space-times because they already destroyed the lower ones.
2. The point of Low 1-C, would eventually be 1-B, would only be valid if said feats only happen hypothetically or rather if it was stated they are "about" to transcend to into a 1-B realm, however that's not the case, since we know she already reached a 1-B state
3. She needed to transcends through higher space-times because they already destroyed the lower ones.
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Then wouldn't it be better if she had a low 1-C key?
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why? She already reached a higher state (1-B) lmao, that'll be redundant.
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That's basically what i said.
IIRC she didn't reach 1-B yet it was literally stated that if she continued fighting with Toichiro endlessly then they would eventually reach an 1-B state by transcending higher space-times contenum endlessly
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She was 1-B, she was just fighting in a Low 1-C location. Higher-Dimensional beings can exist in Lower-Dimensions without losing their power you know.
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Then you agree that it should stay the same then.
Nope. It says that they already reached it after endlessly transcending thus they are already 1-B. Also they already kept on transcending from the start. and like I said above; a "eventually reach (tier)" would only happen if said feat is hypothetically or didn't happen yet, but is about to. UEG already reached it before the battle suddenly came to a halt.
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I somewhat agree with this view on light speed.
Reliable sources make roughly all the statements on the light which support light beam be actual light. Additionally, Raisa, a saint, which the narrative stated could follow the movement at the speed of light, which is an Option 4 Statement. Moreover, Raisa's comments earlier on the matter would be Option 2 Statements as saints are primary authoritative sources (Volume 5 Chapter 15); these statements lend more credence to light being valid.
So, I would argue two criteria are least meet. Currently, without major anti-feats, only a few criteria (few can mean two or more) are needed.
The other things look fine.
If the evidence for the god's manipulation of heavenly records is found, I guess it could work for a tier update.
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Bump, don't let this thread die.
So looks like that Light speed is valid, since as Elizha says, the Light speed feats in the novel meet two criteria, and as I said above, there aren't any contradictions or Anti feats. So I desagree to with the speed downgrade.
So looks like that Light speed is valid, since as Elizha says, the Light speed feats in the novel meet two criteria, and as I said above, there aren't any contradictions or Anti feats. So I desagree to with the speed downgrade.
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ID doesnt have infinite speed, only immeasurable, but yeh
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ID does have infinite speed. For example, the user of Omega Blade can affect the target no matter how far they're in the universe.
Adding more to what I mentioned earlier, 'lightspeed' is so insignificant in the series that even a total canon-fodder (whose existence could only be known by the single sentence below) was easily bestowed with the ability to literally move at the speed of light.
This further makes the lightspeed feats even easier to accept.
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ID has Immeasurable speed, not Infinite
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If it wasn't obvious enough, I've been talking about the "ID series" this whole time.
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Me and Elizhaa already explained
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Why do some characters have supersonic speed in the story, while others are slightly stronger already at the speed of light? Where is the intermediate speed level?
I would rather limit myself to supersonic speed for the characters, given that the light novel does not have a numerical indication of the speed of light or movement at such distances in a second.
I would rather limit myself to supersonic speed for the characters, given that the light novel does not have a numerical indication of the speed of light or movement at such distances in a second.
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This might be off topic but can anyone give me a scan about ID bypassing 20 layers of defense to Instant Death?
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Leave that for another thread my guy.
Level resistance kinda makes the 20 layers thing useless anyway; since it's already higher.
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What
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Aoi with 5-D Will be broken as hell
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Being bigger than a timeline is Large Size.
Affecting the past, present and future of a space-time continuum is just having Universal+ range.
Traversing distances bigger than a universe in itself isn't Immeasurable speed.
Does it have anything other than this? Like, I heard it swam through time. This true?
Affecting the past, present and future of a space-time continuum is just having Universal+ range.
Traversing distances bigger than a universe in itself isn't Immeasurable speed.
Does it have anything other than this? Like, I heard it swam through time. This true?
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Well it would be very appreciated if someone just give me a scan now
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Pretty sure this would also make you immesurable in terms of attack speed
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No, it doesn't. This is literally just what happens when someone busts a space-time continuum.
It can in some very specific context but not by default.
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No. It eats time and space-time along with HRs are part of itself.
It does, however, travel in the distance between Heavenly Records, which is stated to be larger than the HRs themselves. I'd need to find the scan for that though.
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Well it was stated that space and time are just a part of himself Idk if this does help
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