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Upgrade The sea to Low1C
What is the "Heavenly Recod"? The Heavenly Recod is a parallel universe and has its own timeline. Why do you have your own timeline? Because the Heavenly Record contained the timeline from Darian's death. One death of Darian = creating a different timeline. and was placed in the heavenly record. That means 1 disk of heaven = 1 universe and 1 timeline (It's a 4-dimensional universe) based on dimensional theory. The 3D is the world in which we live. It is space that has width + length + depth. The 4D is width + length + depth + time.
And the heavenly record eater is a character that can devour the heavens (can devour the universe) and its size. Bigger than the universe. Fiction will know that it is very big. In the novel it is explained that Its mouth can swallow at least 4-5 universes at once. And of course, Yogiri killed characters on a cosmic scale.)
Not only that In this episode there is also a description of "The sea" or "sea" which is an area similar to the sea that holds bubbles (heavenly) record-Heavenly disc) countless and HR (an abbreviation for heavenly record) also has a hierarchy. In the novel, when Yogiri meets a robot And the robot once said, "There is a higher world. The higher the world Because the world that robots refer to is the world within HR Because HR, which is the universe There is a universe that is bigger than the universe. Simply put, HR isn't just one thing. But there are many of them (described as having "countless numbers"), and each
Within the "hierarchy of The sea", the higher the hierarchy, the more The vastness of HR's Space-time is only getting bigger. But in the novel it is explained that for the sea, a Heavenlu record, no matter how many there are, It's just a small point for The sea. Simply put, HR=universe. But The sea is a very large area to the point that no matter how many universes there are, It cannot be compared with The sea And it's big enough that even HR can't notice its existence. HRE where Damrong swims in the sea Only high-ranking people like God would notice. If using string theory (string theory), the 4-dimensional space No matter how much it expands It cannot be equivalent to something. That thing must be 5 dimensions.
Timeline Darian dead 1, 2 , 3


According to the cosmology page
The Celestial Foundation is capable of containing multiple space-time continuums (Timelines) simultaneously. Whenever Darian died, his soul was able to travel back in time. Every time he travelled back to the past because of his death, it created an entirely different timeline.

If you follow the manga feed, you'll see that The Heavenly Recorder is very small. Therefore, it shows that the heavenly records are not comparable.


AP of Heavenly Record Eater, Each heavenly record contained countless parallel worlds and timelines.

VOLUME 11 talks about a parallel world. Makes it clear that The entire world is a parallel world.
Countless Parallel Worlds/Timelines
There are numerous parallel worlds inside the Celestial Foundation.

“Your strength stems from connecting to yourself in numerous parallel worlds, does it not? That makes your power next to infinite. Even if you died here, that would be like no more than losing a single hair. I was able to understand that much, so I killed you in all of those parallel worlds as well.”
VOLUME 11; COLOR ILLUSTRATIONS: PAGE 3

Heavenly record= 4D
The sea = 5D

Agree :

Disagree

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This looks familiar to me, what tier was heavenly record and the sea in before? And what has changed?

Regardless, it looks fine.
 
I disagree with L1-C.

As far as I understand the OP, the situation is that things containing countless timelines (The Heavenly Records) are contained by another structure (The Sea). But nothing in the OP provides any evidence that the Sea can never, ever be filled by the Heavenly Records or something that close to it. Which, as far as I understand, was the OP's claim

Also, The Sea is already a 5-D structure in any case because it contains and separates these 4-D structures and has an axis that allows one to travel between them. The only problem is that there is nothing about the size of this 5th axis.
 
what with this amount of people come out and upgrading sea to low 1-C out of nowhere. At least give notice first or something

Anyway, the thing is your argument no longer work with the current standard. If the standard back then, sure it would work but not the current standard. So yeah, disagree, at least not with our current standard. Honestly Abyss is the only our better chance at possibly low 1-C HR for whatever it’s worth.
 
But nothing in the OP provides any evidence that the Sea can never, ever be filled by the Heavenly Records or something that close to it. Which, as far as I understand, was the OP's claim
Why is the sea never filled with heavenly records? Even though the Heavenly Record Foundation was contained in something called the sea.

The difference between the dimensional levels of the heavenly plates should also be different. Even living things cannot recognize the existence of the sea or the creatures that live in it.

The sea is what covers many heavenly records. Countless and possibly infinite From the theory that The sea is infinite in size. and should be able to contain an infinite amount of heavenly disks.
 
Why is the sea never filled with heavenly records?
But The sea is a very large area to the point that no matter how many universes there are, It cannot be compared with The sea And it's big enough that even HR can't notice its existence.
I thought that was your claim? If what you mean is just that the Heavenly Records look tiny in the Sea, then this has nothing to do with L1-C in the first place.

The sea is what covers many heavenly records. Countless and possibly infinite From the theory that The sea is infinite in size. and should be able to contain an infinite amount of heavenly disks.
So? It just contains things, whether infinite or finite. That's it. It means nothing about qualitative superiority.
 
what with this amount of people come out and upgrading sea to low 1-C out of nowhere. At least give notice first or something

Anyway, the thing is your argument no longer work with the current standard. If the standard back then, sure it would work but not the current standard. So yeah, disagree, at least not with our current standard. Honestly Abyss is the only our better chance at possibly low 1-C HR for whatever it’s worth.
What is the current standard?
 
what with this amount of people come out and upgrading sea to low 1-C out of nowhere. At least give notice first or something

Anyway, the thing is your argument no longer work with the current standard. If the standard back then, sure it would work but not the current standard. So yeah, disagree, at least not with our current standard. Honestly Abyss is the only our better chance at possibly low 1-C HR for whatever it’s worth.
Yeah I agree.
"Greater than 2-A is Low 1-C" Is not valid anymore.

Besides, a Celestial Foundation currently only treated to have countless (near infinite) timeline (2-B) contain within them.

Yes, the sea is infinite (2-A) though.
 
I thought that was your claim? If what you mean is just that the Heavenly Records look tiny in the Sea, then this has nothing to do with L1-C in the first place.


So? It just contains things, whether infinite or finite. That's it. It means nothing about qualitative superiority.
The canopy separated the world from the infinite space known as the “Sea.” With that canopy gone, the rest of the world easily collapsed. The world was frail and couldn’t bear the harsh environment of the Sea.
For the sea The Heavenly Record was just a bubble. If the heavenly record did not have a strong shell called the canopy, it would collapse and no living creature would be able to notice the existence of the sea unless it was.
Higher Level or GOD Where most gods exist in higher dimensions.
 
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