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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18

Gitagon said:
Yeah, MHA databooks are always so surface level. They can't even be used in scaling. (At least half of Naruto & Bleach Lightspeed, Universal, Infinity etc statements are from databooks).
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Especially the Ultra Archive and Analysis books. They are pretty useless.
 
Man, Iida being the one to grab his hand is very good story telling. And the plan to catch up to Deku when he uses Faux 100% was very good, though again, it shows they are not on his level. Very creative use of powers though, and it really shows that with enough teamwork they can actually produce All Might level results.

I wonder where we're going to go next though? Deku seems ready to break down and cry with his class right now, which he needs, but is AFO watching all of this just waiting to smack this hope out of their heads? How messed up would it be to send a High End at them right now?

I'm happy for how this encounter went, for both sides, as they did nothing but affirm that they want to be with him no matter what. That they are heroes too. I'm very proud of 1a right now.

Also, Deku using Blackwhip from behind himself to stop Mineta was cool, shows again that he can shoot it from any part of his body.
 
Kingofwolves999 said:
Man, Iida being the one to grab his hand is very good story telling. And the plan to catch up to Deku when he uses Faux 100% was very good, though again, it shows they are not on his level. Very creative use of powers though, and it really shows that with enough teamwork they can actually produce All Might level results.

I wonder where we're going to go next though? Deku seems ready to break down and cry with his class right now, which he needs, but is AFO watching all of this just waiting to smack this hope out of their heads? How messed up would it be to send a High End at them right now?

I'm happy for how this encounter went, for both sides, as they did nothing but affirm that they want to be with him no matter what. That they are heroes too. I'm very proud of 1a right now.

Also, Deku using Blackwhip from behind himself to stop Mineta was cool, shows again that he can shoot it from any part of his body.
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This chapter was great.
 
Doesnt bakugo state Deku only uses 45% at the moment of attacking with a smash? If he did why doesnt 30% scale to that durability feat
 
Reading the CRT thread made me think of the possible repercussions of how we understand and scale One For All, especially with the All Might/Deku comparison.

Since All Might is almost always at his own "Full Cowl 100%", since he never had the need to compartmentalize his OFA usage (except in Kamino) unlike Deku.
Although he can weaken/lessen the use of OFA instinctively, compared to Deku who I believe puts more thought into it though that's kinda trivial.

Also the fact that All Might still managed to pull off his strongest attack while only using OFA in one arm.
 
Metalballrun said:
Reading the CRT thread made me think of the possible repercussions of how we understand and scale One For All, especially with the All Might/Deku comparison.

Since All Might is almost always at his own "Full Cowl 100%", since he never had the need to compartmentalize his OFA usage (except in Kamino) unlike Deku.
Although he can weaken/lessen the use of OFA instinctively, compared to Deku who I believe puts more thought into it though that's kinda trivial.

Also the fact that All Might still managed to pull off his strongest attack while only using OFA in one arm.
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Hmm.
 
There’s a panel somewhere in Vigilantes of All Might in the background looking like Hero Hunter Garou but I can’t find it now.
 
People on Reddit saying Horikoshi is sexist because the female characters either don’t do much, or get hurt, and that they “don’t do anything”

Despite the fact pretty much every main character is alive right now that was at Shigaraki’s location at the end of the war arc due to Momo’s actions, acting as leader to put Gigantomachia to sleep. 0% intellect found.

The female characters should get more bigger moments tho.
 
AtomicSekiro said:
People on Reddit saying Horikoshi is sexist because the female characters either don’t do much, or get hurt, and that they “don’t do anything”

Despite the fact pretty much every main character is alive right now that was at Shigaraki’s location at the end of the war arc due to Momo’s actions, acting as leader to put Gigantomachia to sleep. 0% intellect found.

The female characters should get more bigger moments tho.
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People have fish memory in the bnha fandom

Also if it weren't for mirko, Shigaraki would have reached 100% and surely won, and mirko managed to stop the process while she fought Nomus almost at Hood level.
 
btw sorry if it's spam to comment on that again so fast, I'm not used to the process and the truth is I don't know how to proceed, should a lot of mods/admins accept it or something like that?
 
AtomicSekiro said:
People on Reddit saying Horikoshi is sexist because the female characters either don’t do much, or get hurt, and that they “don’t do anything”

Despite the fact pretty much every main character is alive right now that was at Shigaraki’s location at the end of the war arc due to Momo’s actions, acting as leader to put Gigantomachia to sleep. 0% intellect found.

The female characters should get more bigger moments tho.
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Sexism was an explored concept in MHA, even when it was superceded by other narratives. Sexism is more than just discrimination or hating, it is also biases or attitudes that paint girls/women in a way that makes them unequal in relation to boys/men. Sexism is also systemic, institutional, rather than purely interpersonal. It was far and varied between Kaminari, Mineta, Touya, and likely many more in regards to how they view girls/women. Their actions/beliefs can very much be viewed as examples of sexism. Hence, at the very least, Horikoshi did some exploration about that, which, honestly, is good especially when he also included LGBT+ characters in his story and delved into issues very rarely discussed in other works.

Did Horikoshi make mistakes in regards to representing his female characters? Absolutely. I do feel that he has ways to go when properly representing female characters in his series and he should give them at least some bigger moments. Is he sexist? I cannot say, really. Maybe yes, maybe not. Sexism can be far and varied between boys unkowingly saying offensive things about girls to straight up bigotry. To label him such should be up to those who are experienced and knowledgable enough on the matter to confidently do so.

Unfourtunately, I am not one of them.
 
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I don’t understand how Full Cowling is notably stronger than just using OFA in one limb. That’s never really been shown to be the case. If anything, he’s slightly weaker, due to spreading the power throughout his body. Deku with 5% on his arm was able to pull Todoroki’s hand away without even touching him by “slicing through the air” but 5% Full Cowling Deku never shows that kind of power.

And then there’s All Might, who’s basically always in a constant Full Cowling state. But when he was forced to force all his power in just his arm at Kamino, he somehow got a BETTER feat than he ever showed before.
 
AtomicSekiro said:
I don’t understand how Full Cowling is notably stronger than just using OFA in one limb. That’s never really been shown to be the case. If anything, he’s slightly weaker, due to spreading the power throughout his body. Deku with 5% on his arm was able to pull Todoroki’s hand away without even touching him by “slicing through the air” but 5% Full Cowling Deku never shows that kind of power.

And then there’s All Might, who’s basically always in a constant Full Cowling state. But when he was forced to force all his power in just his arm at Kamino, he somehow got a BETTER feat than he ever showed before.
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I think the logistics is that a good punch is not just about the strength in the arm, but the support and momentum that you can exert and maintain with your torso and legs.


(https://www.boxingnewsonline.net/boxing-science-how-to-punch-harder/)

And the logic of All might having his biggest hit with OFA in only one arm would not be that he had more energy contained in one point, but he using in an instant all the remaining energy that he had left, which could be days of possible use, but he only spent it in a single move

That feat of Deku 5%, I don't know, i think is not really that impressive compared to breaking huge rocks and structures
 
What is the requirement for a one shot on this website ? Whatever it is since war arc 100% didn't immediately killed shiggy so it must be lower than that, but shiggy also has super regeneration so I'm not sure.
 
Spinoirr said:
Shigaraki would be one shot had it not been for his Regen
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How do we know that, though? Each 100% hit wasn't doing THAT much damage to him, it’s not like he was missing chunks. Hell, Endeavor literally removed all his skin and turned him into a charred corpse and he still came back from that.
 
Bruh said:
What is the requirement for a one shot on this website ?
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If you're referring to an "In-Universe" type of One-Shotting there isn't.

The One-Shot Requisite (7.5X) in VSBW is only applicable in Versus Thread Matches

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/One-Shot

  • This gap is strictly for versus debating purposes, and will not apply when attempting to derive the attack potency of a character based on a feat of one-shotting another character in his or her verse.
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Spinoirr said:
Shigaraki would be one shot had it not been for his Regen
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Then what is the lowest possible value for a one shot, 5x ? 8x ? It's just so frustrating to have war arc 100% be vaguely above 31 megaton (68,97 megaton if you use therefir's calc). At least we can put it at possibly 7B+/borderline 7A or sth
 
AtomicSekiro said:
How do we know that, though? Each 100% hit wasn't doing THAT much damage to him, it’s not like he was missing chunks. Hell, Endeavor literally removed all his skin and turned him into a charred corpse and he still came back from that.
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We know as 100% almost ripped off shigarakis jaw and was twisting his head when he didn't have Regen.

but when he did have Regen, shigaraki was liveing 100% attacks even though he was clearly getting hurt by them. also another factor is we know each time deku uses 100% in one limb his power gets weaker as shown by the muscular fight
 
Chapters out

I thought everyone else would give their minds but damn even Mina didn’t say shit. I’m telling I guys a few of them are just there because “I’m a hero” while everyone else u can tell they truly care….and where was Hagakure in all this…..unless….
 
Metalballrun said:
I definitely think Full Cowl 100% is stronger than regular 100% purely by the physics behind it, but it's not a powerup that makes the user 200x stronger than 1 limbed 100%, IMHO.
I'd wait until that becomes the case in the manga (or not).
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There are 2 example of FC 100% being stronger than regular 100% that I could think of the top of my head. One was in the overhaul arc where deku accidentally used 100% to kick chisaki, granted it wasn't a direct hit but rather air pressure but considering their distance and 100%'s range it shouldn't be massively weaker. Overhaul was clearly f up by the hit but that wasn't even comparable to when FC was literally blowing chunks out of kaijuhaul. The other one was in Heroes rising where 100% failed to put a dent in 9's fire tornado but 2 FC 100% managed to blow apart an even bigger and more massive storm. But these are just my interpretation so they could be wrong
 
Bruh said:
One was in the overhaul arc where deku accidentally used 100% to kick chisaki, granted it wasn't a direct hit but rather air pressure but considering their distance and 100%'s range it shouldn't be massively weaker.
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Not a proof.
Bruh said:
Overhaul was clearly f up by the hit but that wasn't even comparable to when FC was literally blowing chunks out of kaijuhaul.
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Anime-only scene.
Full Cowl 100% Deku's consecutive 100% punches was never shown to do that in the manga.
Full Cowl 100% Deku kicked Kaijihaul to the sky and didn't shatter his body, as another comparison.

The only other instance where that could be the case is from the Heroes: Rising movie, yeah.
 
There are only 2 Full Cowl 100% scenes across MHA, one in the manga/anime and another in the movie. It's not like we have much to go on and people don't want to wait for more feats or an outright confirmation statement by Horikoshi.
 
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