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Wow, another One Punch Man CRT.

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Also I still think we should place the Higher via reactive evolution in Half Monster Garou there. As it seems a bit wack that the listing in his AP section has him as Weaker than darkshine but than could match him in AP
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Thx for doing this for me lmao. But here's what I was thinking

18 Megatons 7-B: Only Pre-Molt Elder Centipede, Gyoro Gyoro, her transformed form and peak Psykos and the "At least 7-B, possibly 7-A" characters should scale to this value.

9 Megatons 7-B: Pretty much everyone in this tier shall scales to Bang and Bomb shall be in here. Ya'll can either place it as At most 7-B or just plain 7-B. Reasoning for this tier is because Bang and Bomb needed to perform a technique together in order to damage EC.
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Base Bang and Bomb should probably just scale to 18 megatons if that's how we're going to do it, EC rammed himself full charge and did no damage so an attack that = his AP is not going to shatter his carapace.

While the difference between his AP and violently fragmenting his carapace is unquantifiable, I think it's fair to scale base bang and bomb and those who scale to them to 18 megatons since it's likely more than a 2X difference.
 
My point is that it took Bang and Bomb together to destroy the carapace. And them needing to do the technique and seemingly reliefed that it worked implies that they can't harm EC on their own. That's why divide the result by 2
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
My point is that it took Bang and Bomb together to destroy the carapace. And them needing to do the technique and seemingly reliefed that it worked implies that they can't harm EC on their own. That's why divide the result by 2
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But can EC harm himself with 18 megatons? He didn't take any damage when he rammed into himself. I'm saying EC is more durable than he is powerful, otherwise he'd be cracking his carapace a little bit every time he charged full power at something. Roar Aura Sky Ripping Fist itself isn't 18 megatons, it's clearly above that- so it would be simpler to just scale Bang and Bomb to the 18 megatons instead since their attack AP is clearly superior.

Here- consider the fact that Roar Aura Sky Ripping Fist not only stopped EC's charge, it sent his upper body flying a couple hundred meters away and if it were only 18 megatons most of the energy would have gone into blocking that charge.
 
Ourosboros said:
But can EC harm himself with 18 megatons?
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? EC's durability scales to his AP, and his AP is 18 megatons via sheer size. And when did he tank damage when he rammed himself. Bang and Bomb straight up broke his shell when he rammed himself into them.

Ourosboros said:
Roar Aura Sky Ripping Fist itself isn't 18 megatons, it's clearly above that- so it would be simpler to just scale Bang and Bomb to the 18 megatons instead since their attack AP is clearly superior.
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It's supposed to be divided in 2 as it took 2 people to do the attack. It's best to assume 18 Megatons rather than them being vastly above it.

Plus, there's the implication they needed the technique to beat EC, and the can't do so on their own
 
Right, so it should considerably upscale from his AP. Either we upscale the attack as much as possible (1.5x I guess?) and use that, or we just scale base Bang and Bomb to 18 megatons and say they need to be at least comparable to EC's AP individually to violently fragment his durable exoskeleton like this.
 
Except they can't scale to 18 Megatons as it's implied they need to do that specific attack to harm him. Meaning they can't harm EC on their own. It's I'm suggesting they should downscale
 
If RASRF and EC's charge were both 18 megatons, it would result in a clash where no one gets knocked back. RASRF not only stopped EC from charging, they knocked him back, and demolished his carapace. RASRF would obviously be higher than just 18 megatons
 
Ok, I'll concede to that, but that still doesn't mean Bang and Bomb were stronger than EC on their own. As I've already stated earlier
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Ok, I'll concede to that, but that still doesn't mean Bang and Bomb were stronger than EC on their own. As I've already stated earlier
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I mean, we could probably have someone calculate how much it took to knock him back +destroy carapace, then split it half between the two
 
I don't think you can calculate knocking him back. It's likely just an 18 Megaton feat. But my point is, Bang and Bomb individually should be lower than EC.
 
Well technically we do scale EC to him But I dunno if that was fully agreed upon.
 
As well as Boros and Garou again. I need to update their speeds. As well as Tatsumaki
 
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This'll be the last big CRT for a while now. I will do a mnior update thread after all my calc requests are done.

Emirp sumitpo said:
But my point is, Bang and Bomb individually should be lower than EC.
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Also bumping this. The whole technique is definitely superior to EC but we can't quantify that. And I don't know if we can divide the result.

So I suggest that all characters around the level of Bang shall be At most 7-B or unquantifiably below 18 Megatons
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
This'll be the last big CRT for a while now. I will do a mnior update thread after all my calc requests are done.


Also bumping this. The whole technique is definitely superior to EC but we can't quantify that. And I don't know if we can divide the result.

So I suggest that all characters around the level of Bang shall be At most 7-B or unquantifiably below 18 Megatons
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I think Bang and Bomb should scale individually because RASRF isn't a new technique. The same happens with CFDSF. It's just Bang and and Bomb using teir own martial arts in a different part of the opponent's body. If you notice, Bang and Bomb stop a full charging EC with just a punch, and they hit him in two different parts of the face, causing damage in an individual way. My point is, if they had attacked EC individually, the area of damage would be lower, but the intensity of the damage itself would be the same, so they should scale. Plus, they send him flying.

Hearing to other opinions too.
 
I think that seems fair. I feel like the part of them being unable to take out EC on their own should be taken into account and I'm likely just overthinking this. But one could also argue EC is a challenge for them because of his size. Like Gyoro Gyoro stated, their martial arts doesn't do very well against large opponents like EC.

I'll just see what majority thinks. If majority think they should scale to 18 Megatons, then so be it.
 
Will you also add the AS lightning feat to the verse page? As well as add again the Atomic Slash back to AS' profile, since it's not there anymore?
 
MarvelFanatic119 said:
Will you also add the AS lightning feat to the verse page? As well as add again the Atomic Slash back to AS' profile, since it's not there anymore?
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We already did. No point in placing the calc there when the atomic slash calc is slower than the Atomic lightning calc
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I think that seems fair. I feel like the part of them being unable to take out EC on their own should be taken into account and I'm likely just overthinking this. But one could also argue EC is a challenge for them because of his size. Like Gyoro Gyoro stated, their martial arts doesn't do very well against large opponents like EC.
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I think they should just scale tbh. Cause it’s never actually stated that they can’t take out EC on their own, and when they did their combo attack, they completely obliterated his carapace and Bang and Bomb were confident that the fight was over at that point. So their combos >>> EC, so you can’t really say that they’re individually inferior based on that.
 
I think I'll drop the whole division thing now then.

Kachon123 said:
Were all of the 7-B's here accepted?
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Yeah sorta

The only last point of contention I have is that Garou should just be 7-B via down scaling from Rover.

I think Ouros' listing makes sense
 
At this point, I think we’re waiting until tomorrow to see if there’s a new chapter and if there’s anything about Psykos in it.
 
Kachon123 said:
Garou should definitely scale to 7-B from Rover. He got hit by like two.
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But he's clearly still weaker than Rover is. He even thought he was going to die when fighting him. And Rover was able to mess around with him physically as well.

And I'm not saying he shouldn't be 7-B, I'm saying he shouldn't be At least 7-B as that would imply he's on par with Rover, when he's not
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
But he's clearly still weaker than Rover is. He even thought he was going to die when fighting him. And Rover was able to mess around with him physically as well.

And I'm not saying he shouldn't be 7-B, I'm saying he shouldn't be At least 7-B as that would imply he's on par with Rover, when he's not
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Yeah, I'm agreeing to the downscale. Sorry if I made it look like I was implying they were on par.
 
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