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Well, I should say KE would be more accurate if we had a definitive timeframe. The "if" is a bit of a big one. Plus, I believe the beam travelled the distance of the cut in a very short time (around 1 second). With KE like that, we'd have a Low 5-B result which would be incredibly controversial for multiple reasons. But while I have reasons for supporting one second, my timeframe might be considered headcanon until the anime clears things up
Can't we use the accepted timeframe?
 
If someone shows only one feat (Psykorochi) and It's trier 5, then I don't see why we can't use it
Because they consistently show only tier 6, and using KE as I said then to lead results much more inflated results than they are.
 
Also what makes KE accurate exactly?
Ah, well it's truer to form than GPE. The mass isn't being accelerated at gravitational speeds, so if you want to find the total energy the mass has going up you should ideally find the speed. Since we know the height of the cut and the total mass, we just need to know timeframe to get the total energy the mass has going upwards. KE better describes the energy taking place, but small time frames lead to deceptively/uncharacteristically powerful attacks.
 
Ah, well it's truer to form than GPE. The mass isn't being accelerated at gravitational speeds, so if you want to find the total energy the mass has going up you should ideally find the speed. Since we know the height of the cut and the total mass, we just need to know timeframe to get the total energy the mass has going upwards. KE better describes the energy taking place, but small time frames lead to deceptively/uncharacteristically powerful attacks.
But we already have an accepted timeframe right?
 
Did we agree on Fuhrer ugly having a varies stats? I do recall a plan to have him a varies due to him getting stronger via anger
 
Also ya'll remember that one time Saitama went into the forest and killed a bear for food. Yeah that was hilarious
 
Ah, well it's truer to form than GPE. The mass isn't being accelerated at gravitational speeds, so if you want to find the total energy the mass has going up you should ideally find the speed. Since we know the height of the cut and the total mass, we just need to know timeframe to get the total energy the mass has going upwards. KE better describes the energy taking place, but small time frames lead to deceptively/uncharacteristically powerful attacks.
If we get a timeframe eventually, will we be able to use KE?
 
Yeah, but I dunno if we can take a timeframe from the attack in the manga without making any assumptions, that's why it's better to stay with GPE for now
 
Can't Melzalgard scale to this version of Garou? In the OVA, which is written by ONE, it was said that Bang took damage from Melz's attack. On the most recent chapter, he tanked a charged attack from Garou to the head and was apparently fine.

I remind you that this is one head Melzalgard I am talking about. It is said that when the heads are fused (he has 5 in total but we see him fuse 4 for the most part of the fight) his offensive capabilities are much greater. This should put Melzalgard's AP way above current Garou.
 
Can't Melzalgard scale to this version of Garou? In the OVA, which is written by ONE, it was said that Bang took damage from Melz's attack. On the most recent chapter, he tanked a charged attack from Garou to the head and was apparently fine.

I remind you that this is one head Melzalgard I am talking about. It is said that when the heads are fused (he has 5 in total but we see him fuse 4 for the most part of the fight) his offensive capabilities are much greater. This should put Melzalgard's AP way above current Garou.
That's absolutely not how this works.
 
Bang was using the breathing technique against Garou, he wasn’t against Melzalgard.
 
Atomic was questioning if he took damage and Bang didn't seem to agree.
There's also the fact that Garou drew blood and Melzargard didn't.

I'm pretty sure Garou is the first character to draw blood from Bang.
 
Atomic was questioning if he took damage and Bang didn't seem to agree.
There's also the fact that Garou drew blood and Melzargard didn't.

I'm pretty sure Garou is the first character to draw blood from Bang.
Agreed. Atomic was just amazed that Bang came out seemingly unscathed. He couldn't believe it- surely Bang took some damage? No, Bang explains that he didn't take damage.
 
Can't Melzalgard scale to this version of Garou? In the OVA, which is written by ONE, it was said that Bang took damage from Melz's attack. On the most recent chapter, he tanked a charged attack from Garou to the head and was apparently fine.

I remind you that this is one head Melzalgard I am talking about. It is said that when the heads are fused (he has 5 in total but we see him fuse 4 for the most part of the fight) his offensive capabilities are much greater. This should put Melzalgard's AP way above current Garou.
Bang was going all out against Garou whereas he wasn't against Melzalgald.
 
Not even mentioning the fact that being knocked out entirely was mostly explained by old age, Bang says it wasn't a tough workout.
 
I remember suggesting it a few dozen pages ago, and only like two people (including you) agreed. Everyone else just didn't bring it up. It's not at all controversial, though.

On this subject, how much stronger is Awakened Bang than his base?
 
Do you guys want black sperm to evolve past golden? personally i think that would be hella boring and repetitive. this aint no dragon ball super garbage.
 
I remember suggesting it a few dozen pages ago, and only like two people (including you) agreed. Everyone else just didn't bring it up. It's not at all controversial, though.

On this subject, how much stronger is Awakened Bang than his base?
i think we should call him abandonment bang since we already have a character with awakened before their name.

anyway bang is currently 2.5x stronger than base.
 
I remember suggesting it a few dozen pages ago, and only like two people (including you) agreed. Everyone else just didn't bring it up. It's not at all controversial, though.

On this subject, how much stronger is Awakened Bang than his base?
Bomb was able to hold his own against current monster Garou before being overpowered after a while. Awakened Bang was able to match and overpower Garou a few times in their match, so they should be roughly comparable.

Do you guys want black sperm to evolve past golden? personally i think that would be hella boring and repetitive. this aint no dragon ball super garbage.
I doubt it's gonna happen ngl. Tho if I want it? Nah, not really.
 
In that case, I'm wondering if it makes sense that Melzargard's copies could be in the same overall league as Fuhrer Ugly (amped to a higher level than when he defeated TTM due to worthlessness) because he survived a flurry of blows from a serious, but not full power, Bang with moderate injury. It's actually kind of consistent with Darkshine scaling, as well, because he matched vomited Fuhrer.
 
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