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One-Punch Man Revisions. Downgrade speed.

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It's good. Most do not agree with the scaling of the BS to the Atomic Samurai (I also changed my mind). Everyone seems to agree that Bang should scale to Samurai.

Only Sonic, Iaian and Suiryu remained.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Ooh, if that's the case, every dragon and all S-Class who scale to the dragons get MHS
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It seems to me that he used this moment and took for all this a timeframe of 1/220 of a second (FPS of the human eye).

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I hope this is not the case.
 
The calc doesn't seem accepted in the comments, better to ask a CGM to evaluate it before we get out hopes up.
 
Yeah, I never really agreed with "Near lightspeed" statement alone being a reason for Relativistic+. There are plenty of characters with near light speed statements but only have Supersonic or Hypersonic reactions speeds.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Yeah, I never really agreed with "Near lightspeed" statement alone being a reason for Relativistic+. There are plenty of characters with near light speed statements but only have Supersonic or Hypersonic reactions speeds.
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Are you referring to Geryuganshoop?
 
USklaverei said:
Where is this mentioned? It is said that they could not keep up with them
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First, Murata visualized their fight as moving blurred spots.

Secondly, your method assumes that they "teleport" in their eyes at such a distance. If I start twisting the stick around me at great speed, and the pole is visible, just moving very fast, it really won't be possible to keep track of it.

If they were moving at the speed of sonic, then they would also be impossible to keep track of.
 
So what have our staff accepted or reached conclusions about here so far?
 
Antvasima said:
So what have our staff accepted or reached conclusions about here so far?
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The Atomic Slash reaction was accepted.

The reasons why Gelganshp NOT Relativistic were accepted.

Scaling BS to Atomic Samurai in speed has been rejected.

There are still questions about Suiryu, Iaian and Sonic.
 
DarthSpiderr said:
First, Murata visualized their fight as moving blurred spots.

Secondly, your method assumes that they "teleport" in their eyes at such a distance. If I start twisting the stick around me at great speed, and the pole is visible, just moving very fast, it really won't be possible to keep track of it.

If they were moving at the speed of sonic, then they would also be impossible to keep track of.
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What does Murata draw them as blurry dots have to do? WTF, we are talking about the fighters being unable to keep up with them and not what he draws, do you think he POV was their vision?
 
DarthSpiderr said:
The Atomic Slash reaction was accepted.

The reasons why Gelganshp NOT Relativistic were accepted.

Scaling BS to Atomic Samurai in speed has been rejected.

There are still questions about Suiryu, Iaian and Sonic.
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Okay. Thanks. Which staff members have accepted what?
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
No

1/220 is human perception. The fighters say Suiryu and Choze are fighting, so they perceive the fight. They just don't see the movements, which is 0.013 seconds
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Oh, so that's what you're talking about. In any case, what if they can travel one distance in 0.013 seconds. For example 13 meters (I assumed). And they could only move at that speed throughout the fight. This, by the way, would be 1000 m / s. It's just impossible to keep track of such speed. It is impossible to keep track of this when you do not have time to follow the movement of the character with your eyes, but he is quite visible to you. Or it could be a blur while driving.
 
Antvasima said:
Okay. Thanks. Which staff members have accepted what?
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Andytrenom Accepted Atomic Samurai MHS+ Combat Speed​

Andytrenom Neutral for Gery speed downgrade​

Uldmaster Accept Gery speed downgrade​

Sir_Ovens Accept Gery speed downgrade​

DarkDragonMedeus Accept Gery speed downgrade

(why is my chat bolded...)​

 
Antvasima said:
Okay. Thanks. Which staff members have accepted what?
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Sir_Ovens, Epiccheev, Emirp, Udlmaster and DarkDragonMedeus for Geryuganshoop's downgrade in speed.

Andytrenom for giving MHS+ combat speed to Atomic Samurai (All users NOT Staff Members also agree with this).
 
Oh. I was probably confused by the fact that you wrote your opinion right after the links to a lot of staff were sent.
 
DarthSpiderr said:
Darkshine is slightly more than Mach 110. Sonic, because he is 2.25 times faster than Genos = Mach 142.7. This is not controversial.
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That's not the point. Dark shine is actually faster than sonic, I'll explain in further detail of the chain and why
 
Thank you. What has been accepted can probably be applied then, but let's wait a bit for Medeus first in order to make certain.
 
DarthSpiderr said:

Sonic​

Genos has a speed of at least Mach 63.45. But Sonic is capable of creating as many as 4 afterimages in his eyes. But later on, he shows that he is capable of creating 10 afterimages for Genos. As we know, when a character is sequentially depicted for another in slow mo or moves for him at FTE speed, we multiply his speed by 1.5 times, as we did with the wet Sea King, because he was close in speed to Sonic, but before he moved for Sonic in slow motion.

Earlier, I thought along this logic:

If he create 2 afterimages for Genos, then it would already be FTE and there would already be a difference of 1.5 times. So 4 afterimages is 2 times more afterimages, hence 2 times faster (3 times faster than Genos). And 10 afterimages are 2.5 times more than 4 afterimages. Consequently, he is 7.5 times faster than Genos, that is, Mach 475.87. Or perhaps 10 times faster than Genos, as he leaves 10 afterimages for him.

But as I was told, we can only multiply once by 1.5 times.

This means that a technique that leaves 4 afterimages in Genos's eyes is 1.5 times faster than Genos (Mach 95.17). But a technique that leaves 10 afterimages is marketed as much faster than a technique with 4 afterimages. This means that it is at least 1.5 times faster than this technique (Mach 142.76). This means he is faster than Genos by a total of 2.25 times faster. This is a pretty mundane result. Be that as it may, after the first multiplication of 1.5 times, Sonic only needs to be 5% faster to be an MHS. As much as the 10 afterimage technique is faster, it must be fast enough to be MHS grade.

Iaian and Evil Nature Water​

Iaian has a speed of Mach 42.3. But Evil Spring Water has a speed of Mach 63.45. We cannot scale all of Iaian's speed through this Water, because it is on a different level (Dragon, Monster Association Officer) and that would be Outlier. But we can scale his reactions to Water. We did that with Fubuki.

Iaian is shown to be consistently capable of responding to it. As well as characters comparable him in speed.

Suiryu​

There is an anime OVA. In it, Suiryu and Human Garou fought inside the VR game. This game completely copies their movements. They are quite comfortable fighting against each other and it is hard for them. The program can keep up with their movement speed (Except for the most recent hit).

All OVs are written from ONE's script. This means that the abilities of all characters are canonical.

This tells us that Suiryu and Garou are equal in speed and fighting skills. Because they react to each other and the game completely copies their movements.

To show fully open combat, the anime inserts their real bodies instead of their avatar models.

But, is AP scalable? We do not know. Perhaps they don't really touch each other. They fight each other from a distance. BUT! They often scream in pain when they hit each other. Also, they can push each other away with blows, because of him they fly back. And even push each other.

Perhaps they really hit and touch each other?

There is one factor that has led some to oppose this scaling. King defeated Suiryu. But this is due to the fact that King plays with a gamepad, and does not attack with his body. And he knows the combo.

Does Suiryu scale in speed to Human Garou? Does AP Suiryu scale to Human Garou?


That's all for now. Also, I would like my calculation with the Atomic Samurai to be approved in the comments. It is very important. It was already accepted in this discussion, but I need it to be accepted in the comments as well due to some problems with USk.
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We also need to consider these things. They were all ignored.
 
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