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No they're definitely different. Technically you can't put a finite speed value of timeline destruction. That's blatantly dumb :V like really. However, since it's energy that's outwardly expanding through space, and especially time, then it's likely immeasurable attack speed.Not sure if it has been brought up already, but didn't Solaris basically pull the same feat as Time Eater except on a multiversal scale?
why not
No.why not
This again? We went over this in the last thread. It's such a mess that it'll be hard to find, but I still remember that we all agreed that Solaris has temporal omnipresence.Solaris' feats seems far more close to Multiple Selves than to Nigh-Omnipresence. The latter implies you're almost/close to being everywhere at once when Solaris is as close to that through time as you or me but multiplied by 3. The versions in the part and future can act independently from the version in the present, so what? It's not across all of time, just 3 parts in it. I bet they would still call it Nigh-Omnipresence if there was only a Solaris acting differently in only 2 time periods.
This is headcanon, the game states Solaris exists in the past, present, and future, not that there are multiple versions of Solaris, furthermore in his fight the hedgehogs are clearly seen fighting one Solaris, not several with different health bars, and different attacksSolaris' feats seems far more close to Multiple Selves than to Nigh-Omnipresence. The latter implies you're almost/close to being everywhere at once when Solaris is as close to that through time as you or me but multiplied by 3. The versions in the part and future can act independently from the version in the present, so what? It's not across all of time, just 3 parts in it. I bet they would still call it Nigh-Omnipresence if there was only a Solaris acting differently in only 2 time periods.
Solaris feat would be immeasurable, since the blast reached Silver's future, meaning it could travel through time via speedNot sure if it has been brought up already, but didn't Solaris basically pull the same feat as Time Eater except on a multiversal scale?
Nothing at all indicates there's more than one Solaris, if that's what you're getting at. If you feel there are multiple versions of Solaris in this boss fight, you'll need to support that idea with something substantial.Solaris' feats seems far more close to Multiple Selves than to Nigh-Omnipresence. The latter implies you're almost/close to being everywhere at once when Solaris is as close to that through time as you or me but multiplied by 3. The versions in the part and future can act independently from the version in the present, so what? It's not across all of time, just 3 parts in it. I bet they would still call it Nigh-Omnipresence if there was only a Solaris acting differently in only 2 time periods.
"Above dimensions" seemingly.Do we know what "superdimensional" means?
You give more meaning to it than what it has. Exist in the past, present, and future doesn't necessarily mean to exist across all of time, it's easier to believe he only acts at 1 point in the present like you and me, and also in 1 point in the past and future, thereby what they said is still correct, and this fits with what we see. You're making up how they would need to be more than 1 Solaris, if 3 characters were fighting separately 1 same huge 3-headed being the latter can completely have Multiple Selves and only 1 health bar.This is headcanon, the game states Solaris exists in the past, present, and future, not that there are multiple versions of Solaris, furthermore in his fight the hedgehogs are clearly seen fighting one Solaris, not several with different health bars, and different attacks
This is kinda hypocrite given his Acausality.Nothing at all indicates there's more than one Solaris, if that's what you're getting at. If you feel there are multiple versions of Solaris in this boss fight, you'll need to support that idea with something substantial.
Your interpretation is just that, an interpretation without proof of it being correct, you are the one giving meaning to the phraseYou give more meaning to it than what it has. Exist in the past, present, and future doesn't necessarily mean to exist across all of time, it's easier to believe he only acts at 1 point in the present like you and me, and also in 1 point in the past and future, thereby what they said is still
In his boss fight he is seem using the same attacks and facing certain directions, where the previous character was, we can literally even see him still blocking, it's not having only one health bar, but the fact he acts as one, you are the one making stuff up with a clear lack of knowelegeYou're making up how they would need to be more than 1 Solaris, if 3 characters were fighting separately 1 same huge 3-headed being the latter can completely have Multiple Selves and only 1 health bar.
Didn't say there's more than 1 Solaris, but that he acts differently. Imagine 1 person with a clone and that any action the person does the clone does too, and both could react to things differently to fight others, now imagine it isn't a clone but a version of the same person in other point in time; is the person only 1? Yes, would it be correct to call "versions" the one in the present and the one in other point in time? Also yes. Solaris is the same but with 1 "version" more.The thing is that Solaris, the true Solaris, is only one entity, the flame we see at the end, and that true Solaris is a single being that was summoned during the Solaris project. Nothing indicates that there are multiple versions of Solaris, just one Solaris existing at multiple time points.
It's not just an interpretation and it already has proof as it's what's more reasonable, him being the same across all time takes legit infinite more speculation than just him being in 3 points in time.Your interpretation is just that, an interpretation without proof of it being correct, you are the one giving meaning to the phrase
Saying "it's him + clones" isn't any different than saying there are multiple Solarises. In both cases it's still multiple Solarises, which was disproved, and I don't see any proof to back your claimsDidn't say there's more than 1 Solaris, but that he acts differently. Imagine 1 person with a clone and that any action the person does the clone does too, and both could react to things differently to fight others, now imagine it isn't a clone but a version of the same person in other point in time; is the person only 1? Yes, would it be correct to call "versions" the one in the present and the one in other point in time? Also yes. Solaris is the same but with 1 "version" more.
Knuckles: "We've no time to waste. We've got to defeat it now!"It's not just an interpretation and it already has proof as it's what's more reasonable, him being the same across all time takes legit infinite more speculation than just him being in 3 points in time.
Except everything you said is wrong, they don't act "differently", they act the exact same way, because they are the same, simple as, everything else is speculation from youDidn't say there's more than 1 Solaris, but that he acts differently. Imagine 1 person with a clone and that any action the person does the clone does too, and both could react to things differently to fight others, now imagine it isn't a clone but a version of the same person in other point in time; is the person only 1? Yes, would it be correct to call "versions" the one in the present and the one in other point in time? Also yes. Solaris is the same but with 1 "version" more.
You legit just came in the thread saying "Solaris has multiple selves" yet you haven't show evidence of it, when you make a claim you have to prove it, not just go with what you think is more reasonable, you aren't WoG, your vision isn't simple correct because you say so, I think the exact opposite of what you said, and since your only proof is your words and what you feel, then it's already a counter by itself since our words by itself hold no power, however I have show proof on why there's only one Solaris by showing evidence of his fight, you haven'tIt's not just an interpretation and it already has proof as it's what's more reasonable, him being the same across all time takes legit infinite more speculation than just him being in 3 points in time.
Kind of frustrating how people just accept Dr. Manhattan ability (Comic media) but constantly questions Solaris(Game media)I think what takes more speculation is saying that what Eggman means by past and future is "This arbitrary point [Number of units of time] in the past and this arbitrary point [Number of units of time] in the future"
This tbh. I still agree with the Pro side anywaysYou can switch characters mid-attack from Solaris and you can see him in his previous attack pose when you were the previous character. Which he then stops as he turns and faces who you play as next. I'm not sure where this argument is coming from when the entire previous thread had multiple regulars and staff alike agree that there is only one, Temporally Omnipresent Solaris.
I love how your supporters calls out people for using different verses as a point of view but does the same thingKind of frustrating how people just accept Dr. Manhattan ability (Comic media) but constantly questions Solaris(Game media)