Ryuko literally has Reactive Evolution to go against that. Also, Jiren took a powerful Kamehameha to the face by Goku and was severely damaged, but not completely obliterated. Ryuko can also create force fields to block out a kamehameha, just like what she did against Nonon
Well this better than the first one.
We really need to figure out Super lifting strength..
You can’t just assume it’s higher than class m without any calc or something. 10x gravity is nowhere near Class M, Ryuko can easily stand up under that pressure
Which is a really large At least considering how much powerful he became since then, but we still can’t assume he’s above class m because of that
Reactive evolution doesn't make your power level stronger, it's not to be confused with reactive PL which goku has. Goku and jiren were relative in PL and goku was definitely holding back as to not kill jiren and not get disqualified, basically if they want to they can vaporize stuff with ki. Her forcefields are sound based according to her profile, if they aren't then wouldn't they scale to her durability or something? Goku still has the AP advantage will it be enough?
I know I don't have a calc BUT we KNOW lifting strength increases with SSJ forms and KK, so with multipliers goku should easily surpass class M when we upscaled from like class 100 even. Oh also I meant 10x applies to the mass he's holding.
Reactive Evolution page: “A combination of Adaptation and Reactive Power Level, rather than adapting to better utilize their resources or rather than just growing stronger, the user improves in any number of ways to become more successful, durable, and powerful whenever their respective limits are tested.” Also, I’m well aware Jiren was suppressed, but he was still superior to Vegeta. And Forcefields are not counted for durability ratings
Instinctive reaction doesn’t mean you can’t be touched. Literally Jiren doesn’t even have UI, but he could still keep up with Goku because of them being equal in speed
No jiren was stronger than goku at the beginning, but when goku stood back up he also got faster .
Oh yeah, I’m dumb lol. They can be counted for durability if the force field has a better durability feat than their normal durability
Ryuko is skilled in her own right, specifically in swordsmanship, she could fight on par with Satsuki who is incredibly skilled with swords. Goku has the skill advantage in hand-to-hand combat, Ryuko has swordsmanship skills that can go on par with that kind of fighting skill. Plus she’d be capable of handling enormous amounts of pain from someone who’s a bit stronger than her
Naaah it's fine , i didn't notice them either back when i just joined , until i took a closer look
1-Fighting with a sword would make no difference since she can't slash him anyway, it's like she'll just be using a stick .
From reactive PL page: " It is important to avoid confusing this ability with Reactive Evolution, which allows one to develop new powers and resistances in response to the enemy's attacks, and may encompass this ability as well in the process. By contrast, Reactive Power Level does not grant any new abilities, it strictly improves existing ones."
1. She doesn’t only use swords for attacking, she also uses them for quick defense
Reactive Evolution is literally stated to be a combination of Reactive Power level and Adaptation. RE is a more useful ability than RPL
Are you serious ? Goku is one of the most skilled characters on this site , I'm not assuming he is superior , it's a fact .
Euuuh i was reffering to ssj1 trunks vs ssj1 goku back in the android saga
Nigh even but goku still scales higher
Okay, Ryūko is still capable of handling hella hits from Goku, and can keep fighting longer than him. And the thing that happened in the android saga, Goku is more powerful than Trunks at that time. Goku trained a year prior to arriving back on earth, and Trunks didn’t have that kind of crazy training
Not significantly to the point where Goku just completely stomps her with raw ap
It just said that they aren't the same thing and it said that reactive evolution MAY encompass reactive PL. This is crucial because ryuko only has reactive evolution not reactive PL.
Oh okay, if Ryuko didn’t get the RPL part of Reactive Evolution, she would just have adaptation then. But it turns out she has reactive evolution, so she gets stronger as the fight goes on, and she adapts to situations to better fit her situation
Never said he stomps her with raw Ap , I'm just saying that it's a factor that contributes to him winning .
His AP being higher can be handled by Ryuko, as she can handle very brutal attacks
Also, in episode 24 of Kill la Kill Ryuko said to Ragyo “the closer I get to dying, the stronger I bounce back from it” I don’t remember exactly what she said, but yeah, she said something along those lines to Ragyo, go see for yourself
But can you prove that the difference between goku and ryuko is smaller than the one between him and trunks ?
We also can’t assume he can handle her sword as easily as she did with Trunks, so it goes both ways
Goku will go for the knock out , not the kill
Ryuko isn’t going to let that just happen, she’ll fight back too
No we can , he is stronger tha' both of them , so the assumption is valid , if ryuko was on par with goku than yes i'd agree with you but that's not the case
“Also, in episode 24 of Kill la Kill Ryuko said to Ragyo “the closer I get to dying, the stronger I bounce back from it” I don’t remember exactly what she said, but yeah, she said something along those lines to Ragyo, go see for yourself”
Kefla fought back too and still got knocked out
But the gap is also needed to be accounted for. The gap between Trunks and Goku could be larger than the gap between Goku and Ryuko, and vice versa
She was so much weaker than Goku, and slower than him, she couldn’t land anything
No, that’s full power Jiren, his base key is just “Low 2-C”, which is the one Goku fought
