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Scan providing evidence of this? It’s just Naruto making his chakra in the shape of an arm, it’s not actually Kurama’s arm. By that logic, KN1 Naruto would have Low 6-B chakra arms as well.Chakra arms = Bijuu arms
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Scan providing evidence of this? It’s just Naruto making his chakra in the shape of an arm, it’s not actually Kurama’s arm. By that logic, KN1 Naruto would have Low 6-B chakra arms as well.Chakra arms = Bijuu arms
Hold on, weren’t you the one that gave Kurama the High 6-C for this exact thing?Wouldn't that 6-C for slapping away each one individually? He didn't slap a Bijudama that had the power of 5 Bijudamas.
Also, this calls into question whether slapping a Bijudama counts as taking the full energy of the explosion. It seems a lot like slapping a missile away. You wouldn't scale to the potency of a missile just because you kicked it our of the air.
This example doesn't apply here at all because we've seen that TBBs are comparable to the Biju's physically even without exploding. Here we see that the Mokuton that was restraining Kurama physically was destroyed by a TBB without exploding. This is relevant because it proves that TBBs can be used as "battering rams" of sorts, that are comparable to the physicals of the Bijuu in question.Wouldn't that 6-C for slapping away each one individually? He didn't slap a Bijudama that had the power of 5 Bijudamas.
Also, this calls into question whether slapping a Bijudama counts as taking the full energy of the explosion. It seems a lot like slapping a missile away. You wouldn't scale to the potency of a missile just because you kicked it our of the air.
High 6-C is from BM Naruto matching their combined TBB. Him slapping away the 5 TBBs would be 6-C.Hold on, weren’t you the one that gave Kurama the High 6-C for this exact thing?
And he didn’t slap them away individually, he slapped them away at the same time. And Bijuudamas have been shown to have similar AP regardless of if they explode or not. Kurama’s could damage Hashirama’s Mokuton without exploding.
High 6-C is from BM Naruto matching their combined TBB. Him slapping away the 5 TBBs would be 6-C.
Oh. That’s my bad then.High 6-C is from BM Naruto matching their combined TBB. Him slapping away the 5 TBBs would be 6-C.
I didn't say it was equal to the explosion, I said it was comparable to their physical strength, but we know they can tank their TBBs and also damage each other physically, so all of their attacks and durability are comparable.I was talking about KCM2 Naruto. I know BM Naruto matched their combined TBB.
> This example doesn't apply here at all because we've seen that TBBs are comparable to the Biju's physically even without exploding. Here we see that the Mokuton that was restraining Kurama physically was destroyed by a TBB without exploding. This is relevant because it proves that TBBs can be used as "battering rams" of sorts, that are comparable to the physicals of the Bijuu in question.
It doesn't really look like Kurama is restrained at all by the Wood Dragon. It wrapped around him then he immediately destroyed it.
And that doesn't necessarily mean the "battering force" of a TBB = the explosion.
Hashirama’s Wood Release is consistently on Kurama’s level though, as a pair of Wood Release hands were able to block an attack from the Majestic Attire Susano’o, which is stronger than Kurama. So Bijuudama, even without exploding, are still close in AP to the actual explosion.It doesn't really look like Kurama is restrained at all by the Wood Dragon. It wrapped around him then he immediately destroyed it.
It can also break through his Rashoumon gates without exploding, and still have enough momentum to cross to the other shoreline.Majestic Attire Susano’o Bijuudama, again without exploding, can break some of the fists of Sage Hashirama’s True Several Thousand Hands while base Hashirama’s Wood Release can tank the explosion of Kurama’s Bijuudama.
Based on...? I see no reason to assume the chakra arm isn’t comparable to Naruto’s physicals, because it’s just his chakra being made into an extra arm. Again with the KN1 example, his chakra arm isn’t portrayed as stronger than his normal attacks. They were having very similar, if not equal effects on Sasuke.my point was mainly that his chakra arm doesn't = his physical. You were right that it's just chakra into an arm, but it doesn't make sense for a chakra arm to be = to Naruto's regular arm.
Because if he physically scales to his Wood Release, then Madara would scale to his perfect Susano'o. See the problem there?Ok since people seems to forget....amount of chakra + chakra control = how powerful that person is. It’s already been said that Naruto is the ONLY person to have shit chakra control because of the mere fact of Kurama, everyone else has either a average or a very impressive chakra control so that already means by now since the beginning that we could tell how powerful someone is by their lvl of chakra....so I ask again why isn’t Hashirama scaling to his Wood Release
This as such a bad argument, does that mean that One tailed Narutos chakra arm is 6-B? His chakra arms scale to him, period.my point was mainly that his chakra arm doesn't = his physical. You were right that it's just chakra into an arm, but it doesn't make sense for a chakra arm to be = to Naruto's regular arm.
That's a fraction of his chakra. Stop comparing KCM to the version states.This as such a bad argument, does that mean that One tailed Narutos chakra arm is 6-B? His chakra arms scale to him, period.
A landing a single hit is not B “getting mopped,” you haven’t proven your point at all. Also A broke free in the literal next page, don’t leave context out.Killer Bee gets mopped by the Raikage. Killer Bee's tentacle can hold the same exact Raikage in the same page. Nuff said.
Partial transformations are not the same as Narutos chakra arms. Narutos chakra arms have the same AP as his normal arms because his normal arms are also shrouded in that chakra.Killer Bee trains Naruto w/ chakra limbs, so they should be the same since his tentacle is just chakra, plus he's a jinchuriki.
Killer Bee gets mopped by the Raikage. Killer Bee's tentacle can hold the same exact Raikage in the same page. Nuff said.
Chakra arm ≠ their regular arm.
If anything, no one even proved why it should be the same.
First of all, only Kurama and Gyūki’s combined Bijuudama, as well the Juubi’s are Low 6-B/6-B.How are TBB 6B when they were shown and stated to be mountain level??
You do know calculations exist for these kinds of things?How are TBB 6B when they were shown and stated to be mountain level??
I get the 1st part but how are all other bijuu 6c when they destroyed mountainsFirst of all, only Kurama and Gyūki’s combined Bijuudama, as well the Juubi’s are Low 6-B/6-B.
Second of all, the other Bijuu (except Shukaku) has their Bijuudamas calced at 6-C.
Can u link it?? I wanna see how they justify island level when its shown to be mountain level and stated to be mountain. Shit like this baffles meYou do know calculations exist for these kinds of things?
it's actually small planet level :^)Can u link it?? I wanna see how they justify island level when its shown to be mountain level and stated to be mountain. Shit like this baffles me
What's next, nappa from dbz city level feat is gonna be caculated to be actually country+ level because the explosion shown from outer space
We're not arguing if Madara scales over KCM2 Naruto. That's common sense.Wait, why are we arguing about Madara scaling above KCM2 Naruto? He's stronger than Obito who himself scales to KCM2 Naruto.
Im sorry but how does that increase the level of range or AP of the attack. Also why vaporization have TBB been shown to vaporize i fail recall them doing itBecause we're using vaporization for the calcs, which gives higher results. If we use pulverization the results might be closer to Mountain level.
Thats called narrative intent especally when the explosion size of the attack is relative to a mountainIt's not stated to be mountain level. Kakashi only states that the attack destroyed a mountain. It's much different from "It can only destroy a mountain".
What takes more energy, to turn a rock into pebbles or to turn it into smoke?Im sorry but how does that increase the level of range or AP of the attack. Also why vaporization have TBB been shown to vaporize i fail recall them doing it
I brought up nappa feat as a comparison for how ridiculous caculs are getting.Why are you bringing up other verses?
Are you not aware of how calcs work? Vaporization requires way more energy than something like, let’s say pulverizarion, therefore the results for a vaporization calc would be much higher than that of a pulverization calc, even if it’s on the same thing.
Attack Potency via Destruction: Destroying a "Mountain"What's next, nappa from dbz city level feat is gonna be caculated to be actually country+ level because the explosion shown from outer space
It's definitely better than Mountain+. I'll take what I can get I guess.So, since Tempest conceded his argument, are we in agreement on KCM2 Naruto (no Kurama Avatar) and Edo Madara being ‘At least 6-C’?