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Possible Demigra from DB Heroes Profile?

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I have a blog discussing some of the feats for Demigra (DBH). I would really be grateful for some feedback and the possibility of a profile even existing. Even so, you could still scale DBH characters to Demigra.
 
According to the wikia, there is a possibility to scale Demigra's feat from the last game to the first , as Demigra has been " Dead " since and revived afterwards. Keep in mind the only way he could have " Died " , is if he was destroyed. No other game has him offically labeled as "dead" at the time than Xenoverse, as the Future Warrior and Goku killed him.
 
So... Based on the information in the blog, we should have the following tiers for DBH-Xenoverse scaling [ Top-God Tiers ]

Base Demigra: At least 2-B ( Without Tokitoki's assistance, warped everything in the DBH Multiverse, which includes at least countless timelines . T ) , likely/possibly High 2-A ( His power could destroy and affect "the real world" Beat is from, a supposed higher-dimension compared to the DBH Multiverse. )

Kid Buu [ Demon God ] : At least 2-B , possibly/likely High 2-A: ( Should be at least comparable to Base Goku and Demon Go Demigra [ In the trailers for DBH, Goku held his own against Final Form Demigra in Base ], as he absorbed a Demon God . )

Base Demigra ( With Tokitoki ) : At least 2-B, likely/possibly High 2-A ( Ridiculously stronger than average base Form. )

Demon God Demigra : At least 2-B , likely/possibly High 2-A ( Much stronger than Base Form with Tokitoki. )

Makyoku Demigra : At least 2-B, likely/possibly High 2-A ( Ridiculously Superior to Demon God Demigra . Casually threatened to destroy the world Beat is from . )

Chanel ( Essentially Oneshotted Makyoku Form Demigra, and was proven to be superior to Demon God-Level entities [ Such as Kid Buy w/ Demon God Dabura's power ] without the power given by the end, and was pretty much Demigra's strongest ally )

Beat& Xeno Goku [ EOS ] : At least 2-B , likely/possibly High 2-A ( Both managed to hold their own against Mkyoku Demigra E.O.S, and Final Form Demigra Mis-Series. To compare, base Demigra is capable of warping and destroying everything in DB Heroes, including the higher-dimension Beat came from. )
 
I'm kind of skeptical on High 2-A unless specifically stated to be a higher dimension (5th Dimension)


However i can see that the destruction of the real world,along with the Multiverse might help in solidifying a 2-B or higher tier.

And Xenoverse Demigra should also scale (considering that Demigra did his Heroes feats alone and it is on the same continuity as Xenoverse and Online) and the rest of the God tiers.


Also it would be great to have some Heroes profiles though as they are technically game characters.
 
I can honestly dig it... 2-B Xenoverse and DBH ... YES.

If they are part of the same continuity... Wouldn't it just be better to simply change the tier of the God Tiers instead of adding a new key ?
 
Sorry for the late reply and the lack of activity on Vs Battle Wiki. The thing is that Hurricane Maria had a direct hit on my country and had completely knocked down the communications system(I'm still without electricity.)

However thankfully now im back and can answer on this thread.


Btw @Seed the God Tiers will not get another key. If this gets accepted their current tiers will change. The only one who might get a new key is Demigra.
 
is power could destroy and affect "the real world" Beat is from, a supposed higher-dimension compared to the DBH Multiverse.


ðían anyone give real proof? That this world is superior/higher in relation to the reality of DBH, not just a separate world etc?
 
I checked and Beat's world is always refered too as "your world" as in a different world but still bound to the same time and space as the DBH reality.

And even if it is outside there is nothing implying it is a higher-dimension infinitely above the DBH reality.
 
I just checked and it seems that it is indeed possible that Xenoverse might actually be a prequel to Heroes (Considering that the only time we have seen Demigra actually die was at the end of Xenoverse)

Also it seems that the main difference between Regular Demigra and God of Time and Space Demigra is that one has solid Space-Time Manipulation and is equal or even superior to Xenoverse Beerus.

As for tiers well...

Demigra

Attack Potency:At least Multi-Universe level possibly Multiverse level (At his strongest he was stated to be able to destroy the entire world along with the "real world" above it. After Chamel had received of his magical power he had become so powerfull that the entire world started collapsing from his mere presence.) | At least Multi-Universe level possibly Multiverse level (After absorbing Toki-Toki he became far more powerful than previously to the point he was comparable to Beerus. He was stated to have become a new god who ruled all of time and space.)

Keys:DBH Demigra (Base,Giant,Makyoku form) | Demon God Demigra (Toki-Toki Absorbed)
 
The problem is... Like SSG Beat keeping up with all of Demigra's forms andChamel it's implied Goku only used his Base to take them on. He is constantly seen in Base even after fighting Mahyrouka Form . It's weird I know... But he did call them complete equals at the end.. XV2's scaling just got more complex.
 
Base Xeno Goku is pretty damn OP. Ever the more reason as to why I believe the Xenoverse God Tiers are likely superior to the DBH threats.

So Base Goku was able to take on Demigra and Chamel on Base. Then later when Demigra obtains Toki-Toki he has to use SS3 and even then he gets overwhelmed. Then later he has to use SSB to fight on par with Final Form Mira.
 
It is probably best to ask Azathoth to comment here.
 
Goku definitely is. He never bothered to use Super Saiyan Transformations AT ALL, but in Xenoverse he definitely did. The only time Goku used it was when he ( Demigra ) had Tokitoki inside of him and Final Form on top of Tokitoki , and even then Beerus is only as strong as that . Base Goku without it straight up stalemated Chanel and Demigra w/ Mahryoku Form, when the Demigra wasn't amped by Tokitoki ( In Ultimate Mission X, Demigra didn't have access to Tokitoki, as he was recently revived, and has been dead since XV1, so he didn't have time or even implications of training ) , who warped every timeline in DBH causally , and stated a few times he would destroy everything ( WITHIUT the Time Nest implications ) .


I honestly was waiting for Azzy to show up Antvasima . Kinda hard to deny this though,when in Heroes, they never mention the Time Nest at all being the cause of such levels of power... Only Demigra honestly. This scales to XV God Tiers
 
The way you said it Ant [ "Demigra again" ] ... I honestly believe this is way more solid than what we said earlier. For the following reasons :

- Ultimate Mission X doesn't ever mention the Time Nest being the reason he was capable of such power . If it did... Forget everything.

- Even Tokitoki isn't a part of this, Demigra was dead after XV1 and had Tokitoki removed as a part of his death. He didn't have it at all in Ultimate Mission X .

- Someone with Demigra's energy [ He was near exhausted at that time ] was literally destroying everything, with just his presence [ That's casual ] .

- XV1 has him amped with Tokitoki , so he clearly would be far stronger than he was in Ultimate Mission X ( He had no time ot train , and even if, had no implications in story this was the result of training. ) .

- Goku needed to go SSJ3 on an opponent he only needed Base for originally .

- They straight up stated he lost his memory ( Goku ) , meaning he is as powerful as he was during Ultimate Mission X .
 
Not really. I think that was in Shin Budokai but not in heroes. Also countless could either be 2-B or at best 2-A which isn't the case here.
 
Countless means 2-B. Infinite means 2-A.
 
Countless goes in line with "Immeasurable","incalculable",and "inconceivable" which mostly is treated as 2-B
 
In DBH , any little bitty mess up can result in a timeline. Also, it was stated that anything that messes with history caused a timeline to be born as a result. In XV, Mira caused an countless amount of time damage , making countless numbers of timelines. It's since been added unto many fold since XV1, by at least a million, and that is how many timelines Demigra can destroy in base form ( without Tokitoki ) , AND even in the missions, Goku only used his base form for Ultimate Mission X , even when fighting Final Form & Mahryoku.

. in Xenoverse 1 & 2however , he was forced to use SSJ3 against Demigra.
 
As for timelines Cell said it was "endless worlds"/timelines, and that was in SB, but it is implied infinite in X2 as well. As for the upgrade I am in favor, it further supports what I already believe was sufficient proof even strogner than before. Honestly I have no doubt he is high 2-A with this added to what was already said, but super low ball would be At least 2-B. I won't hold my breathe but i'm interested to see where this goes.
 
If there's no implication of the real world being an actual higher world, then it'd just be 2-B. No at least necessary.
 
There may be Prom , but it is honestly uncertain . Most of it is in Japanesse, with only a few translated scans , some we used here for scaling purposes. I'll check myself later to see if there are any implications of higher-dimentional levels. The only thing i can think of is how surprised Trunks is that it actually reached Beat ( The MC's ) reality, as it seemed to be off an "differing placement" than the others . I am uncertain if THAT leads into anything particular.

Anyways, i am happy to see your return Ryu. BTW, 2-B is endless to any scale sans infinte, so... i agree. At least 2-B is redundant. Your ... previous arguments for infinite can be countered... relatively easily honestly . Anyways, as for the progress Ryu, two mods agree with 2-B [ One Unite, who was one of the main ones who disagreed with the previous attempt, so that in a nutshell makes me hopeful ] . If Azzy agrees, so will Ant, and the adjustments can be made. I'm actually wondering what he will bring to the table here .
 
That doesn't mean anything, just a difference in range.
 
Hmm ...? It kinda would Prom. Considering Trunks & Chronoa stated well into the story that Chamel's energies [ Who was empowered by Demigra ] would destroy everything, and Goku stated something like this in the blog " We need to protecting your world and mine " to the main character, that implies even more so it was going to flat out destroy both the world beat is from, and the one they were on.

So... IF we consider it to be something similar to a higher-dimension, it works. If it doesn't... Yeah, just the ability to have range higher than a 2-B to an Unknown extent.
 
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