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I'm...actually quite interested to see how this match goes. The lizard starts at his weakest. Emphasis on starts. Rick has 3 days of prep, and is fully dedicated to his goal, as it gets him the best booze in the multiverse. Speed equalized. Rick has access to anything and everything he's ever had. Which one wins?

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Scp 682
 
Does Rick know BFRing with the portal gun won't do jack? Would the Anti Matter gun even work? How would Rick survive the Universe dying upon 682's death?
 
I'd say Rick could have a chance on this. Rick is literally the smartest man within the universe, he can create devices within seconds, dome devices that can commence into a threatening state. Now, if Rick finds a way to kill SCP-682, the universe would pretty much demolish with him in it, though, keep in mind, this is the man who can travel through other dimensions and universes, Rick can just flee from the demolishing universe straight into another dimension.

And it should be stated that Rick literally has the power to do anything, if and when he only feels like it.
 
EMagoIorSouI said:
And it should be stated that Rick literally has the power to do anything, if and when he only feels like it.
lol no
 
JohnConquest1 said:
EMagoIorSouI said:
And it should be stated that Rick literally has the power to do anything, if and when he only feels like it.
lol no
Well, you have to keep in mind, that he literally is the smartest being in the universe, and yes, he's stated that he has the might to do anything he wants. Even if he didn't, it's close to that position, the man has the power to destroy and create universes.
 
EMagoIorSouI said:
And it should be stated that Rick literally has the power to do anything, if and when he only feels like it.
EMagoIorSouI said:
Well, you have to keep in mind, that he literally is the smartest being in the universe, and yes, he's stated that he has the might to do anything he wants. Even if he didn't, it's close to that position, the man has the power to destroy and create universes.
I'm sorry, but that is just a massive hyperbole and No Limits Fallacy. We don't assume anyone to be able to do things vastly beyond what they have ever shown or been reliably stated to do. If Rick hasn't shown the ability to have means to put 682 down, we're not going to assume he can just over this one vague, hyperbolic statement. Also do you sincerely believe he could do "literally anything" he wants? You think that if Rick was determined enough he could create technology that kills Azathoth and The-One-Above-All?
 
Well he is peerless in Rick and Morty. A lot like Saitama is peerless in one punch man, Zeno is peerless in dragon ball, or Eru illuvatar is peerless in lord of the rings.
 
Ryukama said:
EMagoIorSouI said:
And it should be stated that Rick literally has the power to do anything, if and when he only feels like it.
EMagoIorSouI said:
Well, you have to keep in mind, that he literally is the smartest being in the universe, and yes, he's stated that he has the might to do anything he wants. Even if he didn't, it's close to that position, the man has the power to destroy and create universes.
I'm sorry, but that is just a massive hyperbole and No Limits Fallacy. We don't assume anyone to be able to do thing vastly beyond what they have ever shown or been reliably stated to do. If Rick hasn't shown the ability to have means to put 682 down, we're not going to assume he can just over this one vague, hyperbolic statement. Also do you sincerely believe he could do "literally anything" he wants? You think that if Rick was determined enough he could create technology that kills Azathoth and The-One-Above-All?
You've made a valid point, however, I'd like to say that comparing Azathoth and The-One-Above-All is quite dubious point, it's quite clear they're infinite. I break up the point that Rick states he can do anything he please is used to his brim. Sure, he may not be able to do ANYTHING he pleases, though still, Rick has and can succeed in completing unremarkable but achievable deeds.
 
You're the one who claimed he can do "literally anything" at first. So I simply asked how far you're willing to take this massive NLF. Even if you don't believe that though, the point is still that we can't assume Rick can do something he has never shown capable. And if you admit that "literally anything" isn't actually literal, and that Rick can't really do whatever he wants, then this statement can't be taken too seriously.

TLDR: If Rick does something in the series that indicates he can defeat 682 then use that. Don't use a vague, hyperbolic "he can do literally anything he wants" statement to extrapolate abilities with no evidence.
 
Ryukama said:
You're the one who claimed he can do "literally anything" at first. So I simply asked how far you're willing to take this massive NLF. Even if you don't believe that though, the point is still that we can't assume Rick can do something he has never shown capable. And if you admit that "literally anything" isn't actually literal, and that Rick can't really do whatever he wants, then this statement can't be taken too seriously.
TLDR: If Rick does something in the series that indicates he can defeat 682 then use that. Don't use a vague, hyperbolic "he can do literally anything he wants" statement to extrapolate abilities with no evidence.
Well... What do you think will happen exactly?
 
I'm uncertain if Rick has a way to kill 682 for good. Rick's low durability and lack of physical hax resistance could let 682 kill him. And Rick would die from 682's Low 2-C death anyways. So I think 682 is more likely to win for now. I can change my mind if other information is given though.
 
And how does this range help him kill SCP? Or help him avoid getting killed by Low 2-C death?
 
Considering Rick can access infinite universes as the thing most associated with him, if he does kill 682, and I'm not saying he will, he can easily escape in time.
 
Rick isn't fast enough to react to a universe blowing up. Be able to process what is happening. Or think to/physically perform any actions before he's hit with it.
 
Speed equalized. Also, kinda overestimating how fast a Big Crunch, or whatever reality warping situation is going on, happens to the current universe. It's not a fraction of a second like it'd need to be.
 
@Loyal Rick can't perform any attack that could kill 682 from another universe. His range comes from being able to teleport to different universes.

@Cal Even equalizing Rick's speed to 682's doesn't make him fast enough to react to or escape an exploding universe. And these types of feats are treated in the same way as the universe busting in DB or universe destroying wave in Kirby is. Instantly exploding the universe.
 
@Ever

The real cal howard said:
Speed equalized. Also, kinda overestimating how fast a Big Crunch, or whatever reality warping situation is going on, happens to the current universe. It's not a fraction of a second like it'd need to be.
@Ryu. Kirby and Goku had like, 3 seconds to do something.

For once, I'm not claiming something that would potentially condemn 682. I'm stating that if Rick potentially has an equal chance of killing 682 as 682 has of killing Rick (I know, not the odds, but my point remains), he could get out of it alive.
 
I'm not talking about any speed feat for Goku and Kirby. I'm talking about how such universe busting feats are typically portrayed as a universe getting immediately destroyed. Which Rick is not at all fast enough to escape.

Also didn't a freaking tree get a victory over The Authority just for outliving him? Why can't 682 do the same thing? I mean Rick really isn't killing him, despite the hypotheticals of him doing so that we keep arguing.
 
Thing is, would Rick know that killing 682 would destroy the universe? If he didn't, why would he have a means of escaping? And even if he did, how could he escape fast enough?
 
He's not fast enough to pull a trigger pointing down? Also, look how big the universe is. I'm not sure it starts from 682's position. If it did, sure. If it was all at once, sure. If it started from the edge, my point stands.
 
He's not fast enough to pull down a trigger before a MFTL+ explosion unexpectedly and unknowing hits him. No.
 
@Ryu. Because Rick has Type 6 immortality with prep, as he can create younger clones of himself and transfer his consciousness from body to body. With prep, of course.
 
@Ever. Prep.

I'm just trying to say that this match is fair. Not that Rick has an advantage at all
 
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