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Kirby (Nintendo) VS Luke Skywalker (Legends)

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Does the equal speed mean that Luke will not have precognition as an advantage?
 
Of course, but since we have his reaction time augmented by precognition it seemed appropriate to ask.
 
Kirby has also Time Stop, Holy Manipulation and Possession!There is no way Luke can surpass all of these powers!
 
Noahkaismith said:
Kirby's shown risistance to mind control though.
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When? Also I doubt that resistance is strong enough to beat someone who's telepathy is stronger than that of someone who mind wiped most the population of Coruscant.
 
The Wright Way said:
Noahkaismith said:
Kirby's shown risistance to mind control though.
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When? Also I doubt that resistance is strong enough to beat someone who's telepathy is stronger than that of someone who mind wiped most the population of Coruscant.
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Kirby ESP has resistance to Mind attacks!Even if this isn't enough,he has Intangibility and Resurrection!Kirby can stop Time and hit Luke to death!
 
I'm just going to copy and paste my reasoning in the other thread:

Luke might actually have a really solid chance here. His psychic powers trump that of Kirby's immensely, with his Clairvoyance, ability to hide his psychic presence from Kirby (Which would counter his precognition), Psychometry (allowing him to analyze Kirby and figure him out, and he can use Ionize to disable Kirby's weapon-based abilities.

He should also have far more experience and skill, allowing him to easily play around anything Kirby can do. He doesn't have anything that could easily off Kirby right off the bat, but he should still be able to wear Kirby down.

Unless an ability like Crash could work here, as it's an omni-directional attack.
 
@ZeroTwo64 Kirby's Time Stop isn't so useful in this situation; Luke could just reflect the initial beams and avoid the time stop. Holy Manipulation doesn't do anything particularly special in this situation.

@Noahkaismith Kirby has resistance to possession, not mind hax (unless we consider Taranza's powers that).

@The Wright Way One might argue that Kirby is smart enough to get through that(?).

I changed my vote to Luke.
 
I wonder, if Kirby absorbed and copied Luke, would he gain Force skills, lightsaber skills, or both?

But either way, for right now I'm leaning more toward Luke, but only like 60/40. I think Kirby's got a physical edge, both offensively and defensively, but he's also simple-minded enough to be suceptible to most of the Force's psychic uses, which I'm sure Luke can live long enough to figure out.
 
Eficiente said:
@ZeroTwo64 Kirby's Time Stop isn't so useful in this situation; Luke could just reflect the initial beams and avoid the time stop. Holy Manipulation doesn't do anything particularly special in this situation.
@Noahkaismith Kirby has resistance to possession, not mind hax (unless we consider Taranza's powers that).

@The Wright Way One might argue that Kirby is smart enough to get through that(?).

I changed my vote to Luke.
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Can Luke surpass Kirby's Intagibility and Resurrection?
 
The Wright Way said:
@ZeroTwo that didn't answer my question and Kirby can't do that if Luke mind controls him.
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Kirby can't be possessed by beings far stronger than Luke, such as Zero Two and Dark Nebula,so he can't be possessed by Luke
 
Kirby can't be possessed by beings far stronger than Luke, such as Zero Two and Dark Nebula,so he can't be possessed by Luke

I never said anything about possession. I said mind control which is a completely different power that Kirby has no resistance to. Also I highly doubt that Zero Two and Nebula are all that stronger than Luke.
 
Luke's range with telepathy is obscene, has Force precognition, and easily bypassed any resistance Kirby might have.

Luke wins
 
Kirby can't be possessed by beings far stronger than Luke, such as Zero Two and Dark Nebula,so he can't be possessed by Luke

I never said anything about possession. I said mind control which is a completely different power that Kirby has no resistance to. Also I highly doubt that Zero Two and Nebula are all that stronger than Luke.

They can only be defeated by Holy Weapons,like the Crystal Shards and the Triple Star! Luke can also be killed by normal attacks
 
In character, Kirby, due to the fact that iirc, Luke doesn't like to mindhax like that (he's not Sidious). Bloodlust, Luke handily via mindhax.
 
The real cal howard said:
In character, Kirby, due to the fact that iirc, Luke doesn't like to mindhax like that (he's not Sidious). Bloodlust, Luke handily via mindhax.
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Force Precognition, Luke has no problem using it if it spares his life.
 
Er...don't think that's how Force Precog works, bud. According to Wookiepedia, it tells you you're in danger. Not how, or how to solve it. It's not SNI.

Also, it's very situational and rare.
 
"HEY LUKE! YOU'RE IN DANGER OF DYING"

"OH CRAP! HAVE AT YOU"

Also, if that's all it does, why does it 1. Increase Speed and 2. Specifically show where the attacks your opponent uses are coming from?

Gonna have to ask that you look at it again, probably referring to the one in the main canon
 
The real cal howard said:
Er...don't think that's how Force Precog works, bud. According to Wookiepedia, it tells you you're in danger. Not how, or how to solve it. It's not SNI.

Also, it's very situational and rare.
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And this is why I wanted that revision. I have to agree. Besides a minor few, Precog tends to work in instances and seconds. Not so much how, just what will happen. There is examples of Jedi Meditation and seeing days into the future, but that is with prep time. Combat precognition is star wars isnt that great tbh.

As for possession. It isnt mind control, it never was. And kirby is not resistant to that. Theoritically, Luke could 'suggest' to kirby to kill himself and he could.

Hmm. Inconclusive FOR NOW. Until someone can provide me evidence of kirby resisting mind hax, we have to make the assumption that he cannot. And if bloodlusted, one mind control hax => the many, many other hax kirby has.
 
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