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Yhwach vs Medaka 5th battle

Medaka start with cqc right ? So Yhwach pretty much get the first action no matter what .

Anything that isn't minus abilities get nulled , but then again , minus abilities is all she need to win .

Yhwach would see how dangerous she can be with precog and would try to Absorb

If passive All Fiction/Encounter can get around blitz from the future + complete absorbtion , then it's a stomp for medaka , otherwise it's a stomp for Yhwach.
 
Even if Medaka has stuff The Almighty can't null, The Almighty still has Fate Manipulation.
 
Still does nothing to Fate hax, no matter lucky she is when Yhwach decides what happens out of every single timeline.
 
Can't Encounter also reflect hax ?

The hero is just luck manip ( unfortunalty) dunno how it can square up against Almighty fate manip.
 
Technically nothing , but as far as i remember , she have to either see it being used or hear about the technique to copy it right ?

This match will be a very quick one , it's either Yhwach one shot with his win con from fate manip/blitz from the future or Medaka just start using her hax/copying Yhwach's hax and it's over .

What need to be determined is does Yhwach can end the match in any way with his first action and bypass all of medaka's passives .
 
The Almighty is always on in this key and allows him to instantly change Fate as soon as the match starts.
 
Who knows, Yhwach has literally Infinite Timelines to choose from, and even if a Timeline where he defeats her doesn't exist he one just make one where he does.
 
Luck has no chance against the power of Fate The Almighty possesses, he can simply create a timeline where her Luck doesn't cause that to happen, Luck may change a 0.01% chance of winning to 100% but The Almighty makes it so that chance doesn't even exist.

As soon as the fight begins Yhwach has seen everything that Medaka can do and has created a Timeline where none of it is used and she permanently dies, and before you bring up All Fiction The Almighty has in verse stopped the healing powers of a similar power in Orihime's.
 
Her luck can actually pull a chance that looks like 10^-360 so i wouldn't be so sure, about that. About that. Yhwach just sees a girl and closes his Almighty cus he deems her weak, why? Cus luck.

Tell me when Orihime can affect concepts, time, laws and powers with her ability.

Also you'd be using Almighty on a girl who copies abilities if she experiences them so im not so sure you wanna do that.
 
The very instant the match begins Yhwach will know everything that Medaka can ever do and all her powers, and in that same instant he can make a Timeline where none of those powers works, a Timeline where the chance of her winning is absolutely zero with not even the possibility of anything else happening, because thats what Fate is, its a absolutely certainty that completely rejects Luck and Probability.

And yes Orihime's can effect such things with her Rejection, but Yhwach's power still prevented her from healing damage he caused.
 
All his timelines would be affected by the luck doe. There is no possibility he can choose where Medaka is suddenly unlucky.

Huh? Feats? Cus they're not on the profiles. So orihime erasing laws, concepts from the universe, time etc.
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
Can she even see Yhwach?
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Parasite Seeing should do the work.
Parasite Seeing (µ¼▓ÞªûÕèø, Parasaito Sh─½ingu): During his near death, Zenkichi's eyesight was restored (after Kumagawa blinded him with All Fiction) by Ajimu, who passed on her ability Parasite Seeing to him. Zenkichi's now enhanced vision grants him the ability to see what others see through their own eyes. This also allows him to see how others view the world and understand how they think. When he activates Parasite Seeing, Zenkichi's eyes turn red, with glowing pupils.

How does this allow her to see someone made of a form of matter that can only be detected via some form of spiritual awareness?
 
He could see from his eyes (though that would also allow her to see the futures he's seeing and copy the almighty, i forgot about that).

Well Medaka did see the ghost of her mother either way.
 
The Causality said:
It was in the Dream world tho.
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Yeah but she was still a ghost there no? And the dream world still has people having the same capabilities as in the real world as seen with Zenkichi.
 
1. As explained above, most of her arsenal is nulled once combat starts. I'm not even sure what she'd see since it all happens in an instant and he simply understands all the things he's seen.

2. Ghost doesn't tell me anything here.
 
Everything12 said:
The very instant the match begins Yhwach will know everything that Medaka can ever do and all her powers, and in that same instant he can make a Timeline where none of those powers works, a Timeline where the chance of her winning is absolutely zero with not even the possibility of anything else happening, because thats what Fate is, its a absolutely certainty that completely rejects Luck and Probability.

And yes Orihime's can effect such things with her Rejection, but Yhwach's power still prevented her from healing damage he caused.
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Yhwach doesn't create timelines, he chooses a future from countless futures. Yhwach cannot create possibilities or timelines where "chances of winning is absolutely zero" either.

Orihime's causality hax and all fiction are two entirely different abilities and all fiction is more potent.
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
1. As explained above, most of her arsenal is nulled once combat starts. I'm not even sure what she'd see since it all happens in an instant and he simply understands all the things he's seen.
2. Ghost doesn't tell me anything here.
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1. Well if he uses the almighty on her it gets copied similarly. Not to mention that some abilities can't really be seen.

2. Why? They're spiritual
 
@Fire

1. It's not physical sight so it doesn't matter if it's a physical ability.

2. Ghost don't work the same throughout fiction. What is the evidence that suggest these beings are invisible naturally? And above someone also states it was in some form of a dream world.
 
1. What kind of sight then? If he can't notice anything then what would he null?

2. Actually wait, she went to the dream world after she died may not work. nvm. But it would balance out with Unknown Hero.
 
All Fiction could probably end the match instantanously, but she doesn't use it in character, and go H2H most of the time.

Yhwach could passively overpower Medaka with The Almighty but couldn't kill her with it due to AF's rez. his other hax could be used but not in character for him either.

Medaka could copy The Almighty stronger than the original (at a scale of 120%) and just nope Yhwach with his own stuff, and at this point Yhwach can't do much to defeat her

The scenario where i can see yhwach win is to immediatly use another of his own hax to defeat her (since he can see the futures) and bypass AF's rez (so an incap), but Medaka could also copy (if possible) this and everything Yhwach throw at her.

I want to say Medaka has more chance to win than yhwach.
 
The Causality said:
The scenario where i can see yhwach win is to immediatly use another of his own hax to defeat her (since he can see the futures) and bypass AF's rez (so an incap), but Medaka could also copy (if possible) this and everything Yhwach throw at her.
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Medaka's luck should work wonders here.
 
It's just magic. There are several powers not visibile that he can intervene with such as The Balance which is just passive probability manipulation field.

He looks at everything within the future and he understands what he is looking at and makes said abilities his ally.
 
He didn't nullify it actually, he nullified his existence erasure but that was visible. It would be pretty dumb if it couldn't nullify non-visible powers though since it is the ultimate schrift.
 
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