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Good thing he has the 1st move and could do a pletora of things to win before she does anythingFirephoenixearl said:
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Yhwach vs Medaka 5th battle
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No because when she copies Almighty she just nulls the effect on her as well.
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I feel as if you're not reading the quote properly. He see's the powers in the future nowhere does it state powers "DIRECTLY" used on him. Copying his Power is literally something being used on him.EmperorRorepme said:
@Fire He can already see every future as it's actively changing, saying she'd be 20% better at it doesn't exactly help here in a quantifiably meaninfgul way.
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The Almighty and all it's affects are instant, the instant the fight starts everything The Almighty can do has been done. The very instant the match begins Yhwach will know everything that Medaka can ever do and all her powers and he could also Just win via AP and one shoting her or he could also just absorb herEmperorRorepme said:
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By the way does Medaka have feats that suggest she can still function after having her soul obliterated?
And how does her res work?
And how does her res work?
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Nop she does not have ressistance to soul hax for all i can seeSigurd Snake in The Eye said:
Edit: also i saw this Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3. All Fiction could erase the concept of colors from the entire universe) so if the max of all fiction is type 3 Yhwach has resisted type 3 with just the A
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Nope.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
Makes everything "never happen".
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All Fiction is pretty much just Orihime's Rejection, with the bonus of automatically resurrecting upon death.
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If all fiction is type 3 he can just neg
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It's not.TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
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A more on crack version of it, but yeah, same idea in concept.
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Is still type 3 on her profile so it remans type 3 just stronger than the original so he can still neg itFirephoenixearl said:
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No....her type 3 is a different thing entirely. Her AF is not regen.TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
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......i never said that AF is regen.... also when i come to the AF part on her prof is still says type 3Firephoenixearl said:
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We were talking about AF and you said "Type 3", which is Immortality via regen.
About AF part, i think you're confusing "Conceptual manipulation type 3" with "immortality type 3".
About AF part, i think you're confusing "Conceptual manipulation type 3" with "immortality type 3".
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eeeeehhh....no? i was talking about conceptual manipulation the whole timeFirephoenixearl said:
"also i saw this Conceptual Manipulation (Type 3. All Fiction could erase the concept of colors from the entire universe) so if the max of all fiction is type 3 Yhwach has resisted type 3 with just the A"
This is what i said
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You might have wanted to clear that up with the "type 3". Considering we were talking about resurrection.
Also that's not a good point for several reasons:
Also that's not a good point for several reasons:
- There is nothing to resist when used for resurrection.
- He resisted type 3 "power null" not "type 3 erasure from the entire timeline".
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He nulled his EE as well that completely erases you in the context of Bleach. As in you're removed from the cycle of reincarnation thus you'd never be reincarnated.
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Not causality manipulation EE. Stuff like this matters.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
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Huh? Is there something that makes this quantifiably better? Or is it just "it's different"?
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Depending on the type. But there is a difference between erasing you body and soul and making it so that you were never born or existed in the first place.
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Body, Soul, everything is erased by him so you can't ever come back according to him. From what I can see in the description of her it's only a physical erasure.
Besides that I see no unique mechanic that would prevent him from nulling her erasure. Slapping causality in front of it doesn't really mean much here. Orihime implies she can do that if I recall.
Besides that I see no unique mechanic that would prevent him from nulling her erasure. Slapping causality in front of it doesn't really mean much here. Orihime implies she can do that if I recall.
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If you were never born you don't have soul so no, it's not just physical erasure.
Can he sees futures where he doesn't exist?
Can he sees futures where he doesn't exist?
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Oh btw, Medaka's luck is equal or superior to Iihiko's who managed to kill Ajimu Najimi with a rubberband. Yes killing a girl who can be anywhere she wants with a rubberband.
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I don't know. Doesn't exist in what way?
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Where he's EE'd.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
All Fiction erases things in a way so that they never happened. So if yhwach wants to see the future where all fiction is being used on him he'd have to see a future where he does not exist anymore. If all fiction is used he won't exist, can he see such futures?
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He'd see a future where she is using the technique. It can be from the present to the distant future of at least 1,000 years. He's never been erased but he can use Almighty in death.
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Yhwach has type 8 immortality now that i remember
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Yeah but he would not exist in a future where AF is used.Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
And in death is not the same as not existing. Also AF can erase abilities.
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Medaka does not use AF in character
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She does, just not instantly. She uses it if she sees that the opponent is very strong (like against Iihiko).TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
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By that time she might as well be deadFirephoenixearl said:
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All Fiction can keep her alive long enough and it's not that long, if she sees just how massively more powerful he is physically things will start going south. So if she notices he's stronger of if he proves he is. Hax will kick in.
Luck will help a TON in this departament.
Luck will help a TON in this departament.
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A single hit from Yhwach is a win for him
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It will not kill due to all fiction.
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he can also just absorb her
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He "can" doesn't always mean he will. But even then, is absorption not something that can be undone?
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No it's because if all fiction is used, Yhwach cases to exist, so "Can yhwach see a future where he does not exist?"YungManzi said:
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he can just see the timeline were she uses it and become inmune to it or like i said absorb her (he has all types of absorbsion as in 1,2,3,4 etc.)Firephoenixearl said:
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