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Ichigo Profile Revision

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Ichigo's current profile is going to be revised. Me and few others think his current profile is severely lacking in keys. But if we were to add the missing keys his profile would be rather large and difficult to naviage.

Me and Aerna have decided to create a draft for Ichigo's new profile which would be split between Pre-Time Skip which is everything before Fullbringer arc and Post-Time Skip which is everything after.

Pre-Time Skip

  • Added about 4 new keys such as Post-Resurrection which after his Ulquiorra fight. It illustrates everything from that point forward up until his Dangai key.
  • Beginning of Arrancar Arc which is his 1st encounter with Grimjoww where Ichigo was utterly destroyed.
  • A key after his training was completed with the Visoreds and he gained better control of Zangetsu (Hollow) and was able to fight Grimjoww on an even footing.
  • Post-Grimjoww which is essentially everything up until he is killed.
Besides these new key's I've taken liberty of fixing up his profile and adding much needed justifications. Although his profile looks longer, it is for the better since were going to be revising the lackluster Pre-Time Skip profiles.

Post-Time Skip

This Part will virtually be untouched from what it is now, just some wording being changed and etc outside of being split up.

Let me know what you all think about these suggested changes.

Note : The Drafts are essentially based on what the profiles are as of now, since he haven't added some of the new calculations yet.

Credits to Aernasilver, IMade, and Mach2 for helping.
 
Nice job lads, was disgustingly cluttered and lacking in details.

The split and update will make it so much easier to navigate and understand.
 
If I may add BoAA Ichigo should get a higher with Black Getsuga Tensho, as it's portrayed as stronger than his normal Getsugas pre-visored training.
 
While the profile split is good, that justification for his Pre-Timeskip speed rating looks very questionable:

> Massively Hypersonic+ (Blitzed three Lieutenants at once, one who is a member of the Onmitsukido were stated to be lightning speed, able to keep up with Byakuya), higher with Bankai (Can blitz Byakuya) and Hollow Mask (Even with Senkei reducing his speed, he was still faster than Byakuya)

Was there a thread to get this accepted? Because characters in light novels being described as "lightning speed" is one of the most common hyperboles out there unless there is something actually supporting that statement.
 
Pretty sure there is a quote that says an attack is "lightning speed in the literal sense" which is a really weird way to say something is the speed of lightning but you can't really say it's not at that point.
 
So should this be applied then?
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
I'll just assume you haven't read the novel yourself. It's riddled with lightning feats, they're pretty much nothing.
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Got any examples?
 
Pre-Timeskip Ichigo's profile keys should've been

Substitute Shinigami | Soul Society Arc (Pre-Bankai Training) | Soul Society Arc (Post-Bankai Training) | Arrancar Arc (Pre-Resurrection) | Arrancar Arc (Post-Resurrection) | Full Hollow | Arrancar Arc (Post-2nd Resurrection) | Post-Dangai Training

Beginning of Arrancar Arc is literally just Soul Society Arc (Post-Bankai Training) Ichigo as he never got any training. Post-Vizard Training should be Arrancar Arc (Pre-Resurrection). Post-Grimmjow Fight should just be Arrancar Arc (Post-Resurrection) As he got massively stronger after reviving. And the Post-Resurrection key is actually his 2nd resurrection so it should be Arrancar Arc (Post-2nd Ressurection.

Post-Timeskip should just be

Fullbring | True Shikai | True Bankai

Power restored is literally just his Fullbring Shikai and Fullbring Bankai
 
  • The one linked in the OP
  • Tsukishima growing a tree with his past manipulation to block a bolt from candice before it hit him.
  • Ginjo dodging one mid nap from Candice I think.
  • Shinji dodging a barrage of lightning attack, at a hair's breath distance. They even go out of their way to say it's literally the speed of lightning.
  • Or just the rest of the novel, since they're everywhere where there is a fight usually.
 
Peter1129 said:
Pre-Timeskip Ichigo's profile keys should've been
Substitute Shinigami | Soul Society Arc (Pre-Bankai Training) | Soul Society Arc (Post-Bankai Training) | Arrancar Arc (Pre-Resurrection) | Arrancar Arc (Post-Resurrection) | Full Hollow | Arrancar Arc (Post-2nd Resurrection) | Post-Dangai Training

Beginning of Arrancar Arc is literally just Soul Society Arc (Post-Bankai Training) Ichigo as he never got any training. Post-Vizard Training should be Arrancar Arc (Pre-Resurrection). Post-Grimmjow Fight should just be Arrancar Arc (Post-Resurrection) As he got massively stronger after reviving. And the Post-Resurrection key is actually his 2nd resurrection so it should be Arrancar Arc (Post-2nd Ressurection.

Post-Timeskip should just be

Fullbring | True Shikai | True Bankai

Power restored is literally just his Fullbring Shikai and Fullbring Bankai
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BoAA is similar to Soul Society Arc (Post-Bankai Training), so removing it wouldn't be an issue.

However, there is no reason to remove Post-Visored Training and combine Post-Grimmjow Fight with Post-Resurrection. That would be completely ignoring the fact that Post-Grimmjow Fight Ichigo was weaker than Post-Resurrection Ichigo but stronger than Post-Visored Training Ichigo.

Also, your edit for Post-Timeskip forgets Fullbring Shikai and Bankai, they don't fall under his Fullbring Key.
 
I'm not saying to remove Post-Visored Training. I'm saying just change the name to Pre-Resurrection so it looks a bit more consistent with the other proposed keys and leave the AP description and whatever alone. This is what I'm talking about

Arrancar Arc (Pre-Resurrection) Ichigo = Ichigo after his training with the vizards and all the way up to his first fight against Ulquiorra.

Arrancar Arc (Post-Resurrection) Ichigo = Ichigo during his rematch against Grimmjow and all the way up to his second fight with Ulquiorra.

Arrancar Arc (Post-2nd Resurrection) Ichigo = Ichigo after killing Ulquiorra all the way up to his fight with Gin.

I just put Fullbring Shikai and Fullbring Bankai all under his Fullbring key. They are all part of his new Fullbring power so there really isn't any point to separating them. Basically just have Base Fullbring, Fullbring Shikai, and Fullbring Bankai under the key Fullbring.
 
There isn't a 2nd Resurrection. Ichigo didn't die in his first fight with Ulquiorra.

I would compromise on keys like:

Arrancar Arc (Post-Visored Training) - Ichigo after his training with the Visoreds.

Arrancar Arc (Post-Final Grimmjow Fight) - Ichigo after his final fight with Grimmjow.

Arrancar Arc (Post-Resurrection) - Ichigo after reviving from being killed by Ulquiorra.

>I just put Fullbring Shikai and Fullbring Bankai all under his Fullbring key. They are all part of his new Fullbring power so there really isn't any point to separating them. Basically just have Base Fullbring, Fullbring Shikai, and Fullbring Bankai under the key Fullbring.

It's called Fullbring Shikai and Bankai due to the influence his Fullbring had on them, but they aren't Fullbring. Those remain separate.
 
Huh could've sworn he died in his first fight against Ulquiorra. Guess I remembered it wrong. Than yeah just call the first key Post-Vizard Training. Though I don't really agree with his second Arrancar Arc key being called Post-Final Grimmjow Fight. After all the current AP description is Ichigo during his fight with Grimmjow not after. We should probably come up with another name for that key.

So

Fullbring | Fullbring Zanpakuto | True Shikai | True Bankai
 
Peter1129 said:
Huh could've sworn he died in his first fight against Ulquiorra. Guess I remembered it wrong. Than yeah just call the first key Post-Vizard Training. Though I don't really agree with his second Arrancar Arc key being called Post-Final Grimmjow Fight. After all the current AP description is Ichigo during his fight with Grimmjow not after. We should probably come up with another name for that key.

So

Fullbring | Fullbring Zanpakuto | True Shikai | True Bankai
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If Ichigo died in the first fight with Ulquiorra then Zangetsu would've came out right there, he was still alive and Orihime was able to heal him.

His second Arrancar Arc Key essentially has to be Post-Grimmjow because after that fight and before dying to Ulquiorra Ichigo with just Bankai is shown to be greater than Ichigo with Hollowfication when they first fought Ulquiorra.

The AP description could be changed, we can discuss that as well.
 
Got any examples?

It's better to leave it mhs+ with the same reasoning and ignore it if it's wrong,after the revisions all MHS+ ratings will be replaced with sub-rel
 
What is left to do here?
 
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