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Base Key Steve Question

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So shouldn't base steve have heat resistence ?

He can survive quick dips in lava albeit barely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDAbOop_Z2c

Near the end of the video the dude stepped into lava, now he didn't have any protection like potions on and regular armor does jack against lava so base Steve should get limited heat resistence unless regular people can step into hot lava and still be alive
 
Well, yeah, but so can snow blocks. Minecraft lava doesn't really share the same properties as real lava.

EDIT: No, wait. I'm a moron. Lava emits light, so it melts snow. Ignore the snow block bit.

I'm fine with giving him heat resistance based on him being able to survive being lit on fire, though.
 
Lava is clearly hot tho, also how hot would said fire even be?
 
Yeah, it's clearly hot. Hotter than fire, since it deals way more burning damage. Don't know if we treat it the same as real lava though, since it has a lot of properties real lava doesn't (it never cools, it flows faster, snowballs whizzing above the top of it don't melt, etc). I know magma blocks are funkier than real magma because they don't actually melt snow or ice blocks on top of them (since they have a light level of 3).

I think we treat fire the same as real fire unless there's sufficient evidence to prove otherwise, too, and I don't know of any ATM, so it should be fine. This link also might be helpful for burning damage, since the wiki is no help.
 
Well even we just scale off regular fire Steve should get heat resisatnce albeit pretty low end
 
Steve can only survive lava when naked for 2.5 seconds, and I think he can survive for no longer than 15 seconds with best armor possible and without a potion of fire resistance. That can simply be explained as due to Steve's durability, so heat resistance is not needed.
 
Steve can only survive lava when naked for 2.5 seconds, and I think he can survive for no longer than 15 seconds with best armor possible and without a potion of fire resistance. That can simply be explained as due to Steve's durability, so heat resistance is not needed.
 
Okay but regular humans can't do that at all, this should warrent heat resistance due to that fact
 
Minecraft lava's definitely cooler than regular lava, though. It doesn't instantly melt everything inside it (thrown items, yes, but the blocks themselves no). Like if I put a wood block in there? It'll take much longer to burn up than if I threw a cubic meter of real wood into a real volcano.

And for thrown items, it seems like a game mechanic as well. Iron has a much higher melting point than lava's temperature, yet if I throw an iron ingot in? Incinerated. If I throw a bucket of lava in, which contains a cubic meter of lava? Gone. Incinerated. The lava inside is nowhere to be found.

Maybe you could have a case for heat resistance with the fact that Steve can hold a buckets of lava in his hands indefinitely without them burning to a crisp?
 
Humans could survive in lava for a few seconds before dying, actually.

It's a painful agonizing death, but lava doesn't vaporize us in a millisecond.

It's a no from me.
 
Well Steve doesn't seem to have any notable burns after dipping in lava, also he can walk in the nether where if you try placing water it'll disappear instantly which likely means it gets vaped soooo
 
But Steve only starts regenrating from fire after it has been put out
 
You know, because they don't have blood. So someone with Blood Manip can't use a Minecraft character's blood against them since they don't have any.
 
Yes. Dr Mario is best example. That's about being a doctor and even that doesn't them having any blood. So they obviously don't
 
Tbh though. I think he deserves natural resistance to heat and fire. He can literally be set on fire for several seconds and stay fine, and can carry buckets of lava which would be super hot to carry one, and he can carry several. The Magma resistance has more debate to it. He would hardly have it if at all. He can have it if in armor, but naturally is iffy at best. But Heat and Fire resistance I argue is fine
 
Oh, wait. Never mind. They do have blood. Observe the official cross-section of a creeper: it has a heart.

Creeper cross section
 
Yeah, backing up what Buttersamuri said. Now I guess we just need to wait for somebody who's not a bluename to come by and approve it?
 
If he can only survive it for a few seconds then I don't see how that's a resistance.
 
He doesn't suffer any permanent damage from it, while a human would. He can also hold buckets of lava with his bare hands indefinitely with no damage.
 
That's just regen. Also, that's him holding a bucket, not the lava itself. We might as well give every fictional character heat resistance for being near fire/lava.
 
You touch a bucket filled with label and your hands are gonna burn black. The heat of it would conduct into the bucket and it will burn your hands and likely cause permanent damage. Like if you turned a stove on at the highest setting, placed a pan on it and put your hand on it. It's going to burn, and destroy your hand if you don't let it go. Steve can carry around a bucket of lava no problem. That's some good heat resistance
 
Base Steve has Small Building level durability, while we humans are in the range of Human level to at most Street level. So him being resistant to holding a lava bucket is simply because of his durability. Steve can be killed by fire, but it just takes a while due to his durability. Him not having permanent injuries after getting set on fire for a few seconds is Regenerationn.
 
Burning someone's body is different to physically attacking them. Being unfazed by holding buckets of pure lava and being able to be entirely set on fire for several seconds and continue to survive is resistance. Fire can easily kill animals much higher than any human due to the burn effect.
 
Humans can survive in fire for several seconds. Steve has much better Regenerationn than humans, so he isn't permanently injured.
 
And no living thing can survive holding a bucket filled with lava without their skin instantly seering black and growing permanently damage. Where steve is literally not damaged at all.

As well. This lava is strong enough that it can kill people in his tier in seconds. Minecraft lava >>>>> Real life lava
 
Holding a bucket is a poor argument since it has already been pointed out that he can survive being in lava for a few seconds. The real question is whether he dies after a few seconds or not?
 
Do you mean to say if he doesn't get out of the lava soon, he'll die?
 
Yes, tho I wanna mention Steve is just fine in the nether where if you try placing any water blocks they vanish instantly which implies they got vaped due to the heat of the place
 
Being able to survive it for just a few moments before ultimately dying because of it is still not resistance though. Especially for a person as durable as him.
 
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