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Massive Zelda, Kirby, Pokemon, Chrono Trigger Downgrades + Massive Dragon Ball Upgrades.

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Yes The real cal howard, I made this thread just for you. Andytremo planned this for a long time, so it's about time this got made.

For starters, Kirby is only 8 inches tall. And a bunch of those planets or stars clearly aren't much bigger than he is. And the strongest punch he can throw was only 201 Megatons. So Kirby needs to be downgraded to Mountain level. This also downgrades a lot of characters who are clearly inferior to him. And Kirby also struggles to keep up with cars and airplanes meaning his Massively FTL feats are all outliers. And considering those planets and stars aren't big to begin with, it's probably not even FTL.

Next up is in Legend of Zelda. Everyone struggles to dodge arrows, which means Subsonic should be their peaks. Also everyone considers natural lightning a massive threat. So no one should be any higher than Building level. In fact, everyone gets torn apart by fodder chickens so 10-C legend of Zelda right there.

For Pokemon, Arceus has been injured by a meteor; so nothing more than Tier 7. In fact, he was taken out by lightning done by a bunch of fodder electric type Pokemon; he should be Tier 8. He also has no where near Immeasurable speed if he can't even react to Massively Hypersonic+ lightning. And look, a bunch of normal humans survived a blast from Arceus. Tier 9 might be his peak. And since every other Pokemon is clearly weaker, they should be downgraded as well.

For Chrono Trigger, Lavos was defeated by a mop. And Luminaire has at best 9-A levels of AoE; and is protrayed as spell that gives massive damage to everyone. So yes, Tier 9 Chrono Trigger everyone. Forgot to mention, Lavos' shell can be pierced by the Epoch.

And finally, Dragon Ball is in a desperate need for massive upgrades. Because, Outliers don't exist in Dragon Ball due to how linear it is because Ki Control is a thing and all not so destructive attacks are simply because of that. Therefore, Master Roshi's 5-B and Relativistic speed feat isn't an outlier. Thus King Piccolo, Kami, ect would all be stronger than faster than that. Kid Goku also outpaced Solar Flare during the 22nd Budokai. So everyone comparable and beyond should be FTL. Though tier jumpings would eventually make those after that even higher. Furthermore, the "Room of Time and Space" is a timeline, so Base Vegeta and everyone above should be Low 2-C. There's also a bunch of other things to mention, but that can be discussed here. Universes are also infinite in size, so Whis should have Infinite speed; consistent with Jiren "Transcending space-time". As would Beerus because 3/4 of infinity is still infinity. Super Buu should also be Tier 2 with Vice Shout as would everyone above him.

Note: This is obviously a joke thread, so joke to your hearts content
 
About time you made this, the atrocious wank that Pokèmon, Zelda, Kirby, and especially Overrated Trigger have received has gotten ridiculous at this point, neutral about the Dragon Ball stuff tbh so can't give too much input about that. This also reminds me of the massive Mario downgrades I have to do at some point.
 
I'm surprised Andy hasn't commented yet.
 
DB is still downplayed in the OP tho. Base Goku has been 2-C since BoG. And Zeno can destroy everything which includes infinite multiverses as shown in Gowasu's room containing infinite time rings.
 
Oh yeah, you're right. And Zeno is clearly Low 1-C.
 
Yup, even Bulma solos every verse listed here that isn't DB.
 
This is false, by the way?

Goku's best feat is only field level from baseball, and we can't compare him to anyone else's feats because that would be powerscaling and goku's never shown anything bigger than field level.
 
For gods sake Zeph can you not? It was blatantly stated in Dragon Ball AF that fields in the DB universe have at bare minimum Multiverse level+ durability, if you're gonna downplay at least attempt to come up with something resembling an credible argument smh.
 
Dust Collector said:
For gods sake Zeph can you not? It was blatantly stated in Dragon Ball AF that fields in the DB universe have at bare minimum Multiverse level+ durability, if you're gonna downplay at least attempt to come up with something resembling an credible argument smh.
that's just flowery language and goku can't powerscale to a field, i mean if you're gonna wank THAT badly
 
Flowery language? Araki and Oda both said that Dragon Ball AF never uses flowery language and their word >>>>> yours, and while Goku can't powerscale to a field he can powerscale to trees that are roughly on par with fields.
 
Dust Collector said:
Flowery language? Araki and Oda both said that Dragon Ball AF never uses flowery language and their word >>>>> yours, and while Goku can't powerscale to a field he can powerscale to trees that are roughly on par with fields.
oh yeah? Name one time Goku ever performed photosynthesis
 
^ what stickman said, he was shown using photosynthesis while as a fetus in the womb to kill the Emprah and soon after all of WH40K. He also used it to counter Piccolos absorption.
 
Actually the Piccolo instance might be an outlier since Piccolo has consistently been shown to be infinitely stronger then all characters in Dragon Ball and the only times he ether loses is when he falls asleep due to how boring of a fight he's having
 
The Piccolo instance is indeed an outlier since Goku shouldn't have been able to successfully counter him (Although iirc that Piccolo might have been an illusion), but he still showcased the ability to use photosynthesis.
 
Nah fam Jiren transcends time and is stronger than an omnipresent being he's immeasurable. He also shooked the nULL rEALM which is 5-D.
 
Zamasu Chan said:
Nah fam Jiren transcends time and is stronger than an omnipresent being he's immeasurable. He also shooked the nULL rEALM which is 5-D.
................I mean........your not wrong.
 
ZephyrosOmega said:
it's funny because i have to actually deal with people saying zelda is subsonic
I have to deal with people saiying Link Is Wall level, creating sun with magic doesn't make you star level and that all the magic power feats are hax
 
Lgamer099 99 said:
ZephyrosOmega said:
it's funny because i have to actually deal with people saying zelda is subsonic
I have to deal with people saiying Link Is Wall level, creating sun with magic doesn't make you star level and that all the magic power feats are hax
No but seriously ******* same
 
I agree

Also Homestuck needs to be downgraded to either

A). 10-C due tot he universes being frogs

B). 11-A cuz it's just a game
 
Ok so in conclusion

All non god tier DB characters get upgraded to Low 7-C

Piccolo gets upgraded to High 1-A

Strong Bad gets upgraded to High 0+
 
I naturally approve of any and all downgrades, my eventual goal being making every character on the site 10-A or lower.
 
Dargoo Faust said:
I naturally approve of any and all downgrades, my eventual goal being making every character on the site 10-A or lower.
That's my goal for MCU characters. Planning to downgrade base Thanos to 9-B and IG Thanos to 6-C and I'm not joking at all
 
That's my goal for MCU characters. Planning to downgrade base Thanos to 9-B and IG Thanos to 6-C and I'm not joking at all

tfw Fortnite Thanos becomes more powerful than Base MCU Thanos
 
Wait hold up, where's my Earthbound downgrade?

Today's the perfect time to remove that bull crap, Stoopid and wanked Massively NLF fate hax and finally get them to 9-B

Oh yeah I agree with the op btw, epic job
 
You really should've included Mario being barely building level and no faster than subsonic because anything else is pure wank and from people who can't grasp the fact that they're all outliers, inconsistent, and gags as well as that castle feat being smaller than an actual castle and performed with the Cape power so not Mario's base. Galaxy is also obviously non-canon and/or full of outliers and the scale nakes everything so small. Mario also doesn't beat Bowser fairly and more consistently outwits him or uses his environment which also makes Bowser super dumb.
 
Mario can barely break bricks with his hands(and with power-ups. What a cheater) so he should be less than Wall Level.
 
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