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Ikki gets some snail mail

This works like Edelweiss except Ikki is less OP and more susceptible to getting snailed.
 
Im gonna say Ikki's mind can actually counter this. Weather Report is just trying to make you believe you're a snail. Trying to make Ikki believe something isn't easy. The whole verse was trying to change his mind about talent beating hard work, he still didn't change his mind even in the face of Edelweiss.

Also he countered Edelweiss' mind hax in a similar way, by literally convincing himself to stay. Also omega info analysis.
 
Ok but Heavy's ability isn't mind hax, it's literally the visible light equivalent of Jake Paul convincing his 8 year old fans to buy his merch.

You are just compelled to turn to a snail.

Even if he manages to resist the mind hax, there's still the very non-corporeal entity capable of asphyxiating Ikki by increasing the oxygen content of the air to poisonous levels. Let's also not forget that Heavy can fill Ikki up with water like a balloon and freeze his blood solid and Ikki will be helpless because he can neither see nor affect Stands.
 
Neither is Edelweiss' mind hax actual mind hax. It's just her standing there with such a strong presence that you believe you are F-ed if you mess with her. It's not directly affecting your mind. Ikki resisted that and didn't care about other people's opinion on anything at all and still pushed through with skill.

The non corporeal Entity, wait before i continue "last keys used"...that mean Desperado Ikki? If yes, it's just easy. If no, poisoning is not gonna insta kill Ikki, he'll notice it and hold his breath which will give him a TON of time either way, around 1 minute if he fights at full power (ittou forms), or 10 minutes if he fights normally. Fill up ikki with water...how? And how likely is he to go for that before Ikki 1 shots?
 
Turn to snail is social influencing iirc. Once Ikki become snail, then he is done for.
 
Yes fair enough. But Social Influencing can be resisted depending on the personality. Ikki not ever changing his mind about anything to a point where he could stand in front of a guy who is so scary people forget to breathe and not mind it.
 
Oxygen poisoning quite literally destroys your body on a cellular level. As explained by Emporio, oxygen poisoning can corrode iron (Metallica flashbacks) within seconds, break the capillary veins in your eyes, and make your body numb almost instantly. Plus, holding your breath does nothing, air will still enter your nostrils even if you're holding your breath.

Plus, the filling your body up with water is instant, as seen here:

Heavy Weather Water
And good luck trying to reach Weather physically, he's protected by atmospheric shields that set you on fire if you approach him at high velocities.
 
Considering his body could deal with Stella's 15 million degrees heat, pretty sure none of that will work. Also he's touching the guy to fill him with water.

Worst case scenario, Ikki precogs his death and blitzes
 
Again, can't blitz when you are literally slowing down due to friction. Plus, Weather doesn't need body contact to affect someone. Heavy literally has town level range and passively protects Weather.
 
>Friction

>Ikki

The dude negates friction which is why he is completely silent. No energy is used on contact with the air.

And quite cheeky of you to assume Weather is gonna stop a High 6-B dude from going through (even if we forget about the friction neg thing).
 
Dude, what I've listed is just a fraction of all the possible weather phenomena Heavy is capable of pulling off. He can quite literally just freeze Ikki's blood, or electrocute his brainwaves to mind control him.

Also being High 6-B in AP isn't going to stop friction slowing as physics literally makes it harder for you to move faster the more force you apply against air.
 
Freeze Ikki's blood : Gets negged by precog blitz.

Mind Control : Gets both negged by precog blitz and instincts, meaning that Ikki will literally keep fighting even if he gets mind controlled cus of instinctive reactions and unconscious fighting.

High 6-B AP is gonna take care of 6-C air being put in front of him. Example, Heavy Weather is not gonna stop 3-B dudes from pushing through that level of air. But then again, friction negation.
 
Yeah, I fail to see how an omnipresent force such as air can be blitzed when it is literally everywhere.

Also yes, because a speed blitz by the usually slower character isn't illegal at all in the slightest.
 
Ikki gets snailed. He doesn't know that snailing works by making his subconscious believe he's a snail, but he will instead believe it's some sort of passive transmutation.
 
Doesn't Ikki have self mind manipulation meaning he could potentially convince himself he's not a snail
 
If he knows the mechanics of snailing, possibly.
 
I don't think Ikki can avoid being snailed. Pucci only managed to do it because of prior knowledge of the mechanism of the snailing (removed his own eyesight), something Ikki doesn't have. He won't know what exactly is happening and assume transmutation.

Also, WR's various attacks aren't even dodgeable, so Ikki neither dodges or blitzes before spontaneously combusting from enhanced air friction, electrocution, getting his innards filled with water, ozone poisoning etc.
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Ikki literally sees the future though with his senses though.
Also ikki negates friction with air.
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How can he see Heavy Weather though? Like he can't interact with Stands, on top of the fact that Heavy is quite literally everwhere.
 
Oh yeah, and he can't harm Stands. Unless there's somewhere Non-Physical Interaction somewhere on his wall-of-text profile
 
Firephoenixearl said:
Ikki literally sees the future though with his senses though.

Also ikki negates friction with air.
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If you are talking about Ouma's wind, it and WR's aerial friction are completely different.

Also, Ikki won't exactly see anything because nothing is happening to him technically and he would logically assume mindhax. During the experience, he'll think its illusions. The snailing being neither still works. Seeing the future doesn't automatically tell you what is happening, especially if it is as hard to tell as WR's snailing.

Prediction also doesn't stop WR from doing anything since its not a Stand that needs to aim. It can mess with pressure causing Ikki's blood to freeze or boil, electrocute and destroy Ikki's innards, straight up make him swell and explode like a balloon (Pennywise style) etc.

The sheer amount of dura ignoring stuff Ikki's getting hit with totally crushes anything he can do via "lol skill" and there's almost nothing Ikki can do here.

Voting Weather with low difficulty.
 
Ikki negs air friction due to Edelweiss' style. Not ouma.

He won't get convinced. I've stated it like 5 times. Unless you can prove me that the snailing will work against someone who literally couldn't be convinced when literally everyone he met was trying to prove it. Info Analysis strong enough to realize the nature of people, senses good enough to tell the activation mechanics of abilities and Ikki has never dealt with mind hax. The only thing he has dealt with was Edel's fear hax which is social influencing, cus she doesn't affect your mind, just stands there and allows you to understand how dangerous she is, he still didn't mind. And a resolve strong enough to inflicit fear into thousands of people just by standing there just by seeing how "unwavered" he was.

It doesn't stop WR, it just tells ikki to speed amp blitz.

Ikki can do a lot with lol skill.

Argument against blitz?
 
I almost used an argument with Weather having MFTL reactions but realized that speed is equalized. Leaving rest to you Oven, I don't remember P6 that well
 
Firephoenixearl said:
So we just gonna forget that Ikki blitzes?
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You aren't allowed to blitz faster opponents.

Edelweiss' fear hax appeals to Ikki's consciousness, WR's snailing targets the sub-consciousness. Ikki won't know what hit him. Your example of info analysis isn't proof that he would know what snailing does.
 
Does that require seeing the thing to get info on it? Because he cant see the stand and the stand is semi-automatic, it protects and takes action even if weather doesnt want it too if it's to his benefit, except that one time with the frozen blood. idk what that was about.
 
Weather actually reacted to sped up MIH. Not physically but he was perceiving him and retaliated with a air pressure move. Not sure what you'd call that but time was sped up at least a few weeks/months per second against an already presumably fast as hell character. Unsure if he could actually blitz Heavy Weather, physically yeah, weather wouldnt be able to throw a punch or anything but not his powers themselves im sure.
 
Not that it matters, speed equal.
 
He did react? He looked at him, activated oxygen poisoning and slammed him down with air pressure. He just wasnt fast enough to physically move a whole lot other then maybe turning his head and raising his arms to block but he was fast enough to activate some powers while MIH was throwing a punch.
 
Lasts 1 second and cripples Ikki after use. Although I don't know if that still applies to the last key.

Ikki speeding up is also bad news. Ozone poisoning is essentially Aki Jakago's oxidation ability but with a scientific basis. Speeding up while under its effect would just disintegrate Ikki even faster
 
It does apply, for some reason. It's really weird. Even though it shouldn't, it does.

Yeah, why would that apply? Ikki doesn't make contact with the air...via skill i guess.
 
Doesn't make contact with an omnipresent thing. Seems legit. I doubt Ikki can even run through a heavy rain without getting wet.

Stop this, otherwise I turn S K I L L into a meme
 
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