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All Stone vs All Might

KobsterHope07

KobsterHope07

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Pica vs Prime All Might

  • Speed Equalized
  • In-character
  • Location: Musutafu, Japan
  • SBA everything else
Story: Doflamingo and his crew has arrived in Misutafu, Japan. The reason being is that the land here seem to have harness ability that doesn't seem related to that of Devil Fruits known as Quirks. Doflamingo sent out his trusted top Executive Officers to acquire several of them to test on in order to see if they can replicate their powers and further develop on Smile. Along the way, Pica was eventually spotted by several heroes and engaged in battle. It was a short-quick one, with Pica stating that they won't be able to stop Doflamingo's reign. However, at that moment, chuckles begins to fill the entire area as the beaten heroes took notice of Pica's squeaky voice. Enraged that they dare laughed at his voice, he utilized his DF for the first time arriving and assume a massive Stone Golem that dwarf the whole city. Just as Pica was about to crush those that dare laugh at him, someone came and rescue the fallen heroes before Pica could step on them.

"It's fine now. Why? Because I am he-prrf hahahahaha!" All Might had arrived. With his signature smile, he was ready to save his city from this towering villain. Though even he couldn't help but laugh at the voice this villain had, enraging the villain even more.

Angry Pica
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VOTES:

All Stone:

All Might:
 
Schnee One said:
.....Why is this weakened All Might?
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Because why not? It's fits better into the narrative of story as I was thinking of Weakened All Might more than Prime. And there won't be such a big difference in power.

All Stone: 838MT

All Might: 867MT
 
I don't get it

Don't see why it fits narratively, Prime and Weakened are basically the same
 
It's actually better with Prime. We all know that All Might has severe disadvantages here in the wiki, so giving the AP advantage against Pica will make this more interesting.
 
For the story, let's just say it took place before the battle against One for All.

> Prime and Weakened is basically the same.

Well, the only difference is that Prime is much stronger than Weakened version.

But very well, I shall change it to Prime All Might I guess
 
@Schnee It's a big difference all right, just not clear cut enough for a tier jump.
 
So do we agree that Toshinori holds the AP here, right?

If Pica is starting as a golem then he'll have many advantages. All Might will not know where he must attack to spot Pica, and as long as Pica remains in contact with stone he'll be able to reform the golem, trying to take Toshinori down or win a battle of attrition.

Voting for All Stone.
 
Pica is a tricky opponent to fight as I come to realize. Destroying Pica's Stone Golem won't work, as long as he maintain contact with stone, he will constantly reform it over and over. The only way to defeat him like this is to attack his main body hidden within the Stone Golem. So Toshinori only options is to somehow force Pica out like Zoro did by removing his contact from stone, sending him airborne or push him into the sea, but given SBA, he shouldn't know about a Devil Fruit User's weakness.

Even if Toshinori figured out the best way to counter his Regenerationn through sending him airborne like Zoro did, I feel like it would harder for someone like Toshinori to pull it off. This is my opinion but Zoro was able to limit Pica's retreat by cleanly slicing up the Stone Golem to reveal Pica's locatio. However, I feel like brute force won't work very well against Pica unless they can sense his conscious which All Might can't do. Basically, when All Might do his smash attack, it would shatter the stone into dozen, if not hundreds of pieces, in which All Might won't be able to figure out which one is hosting the conscious of Pica before it touch the ground, after which Pica would reform his Stone Golem again. Basically, this would turn out to be a battle of attrition. Prime All Might was a much better choice for this kind of battle, cause the Weakened All Might would have run out on his time limit and be easily defeated. Anyway, besides that, I believe I will vote for All Stone for now.
 
Hello, I would like to take part in this discussion, hope we have a good time.

Pica would have been easily been angered by All Might due to not liking someone laughing at his high pitched voice, and considering All Might standard way of making an appearance and personality, the former is going to hear a lot of that regardless. Which would make Pica be angered greatly and cause him to go on a rampage. Pica would stay in his giant form and try to squash All Might. I think All Might is far more mobile due to his size and have fast travel speed to move around. The advantage I see is that All Might has superior AP and mobility and Pica has the ability to merge with stone and could move around it.

From the start of the battle where he saved the heroes, he would have seen Pica assimilating the stone and become the stone giant, All Might would most likely deduce that Pica is inside the giant golem, sooner or later or even in that moment he would have tried to the same tactic of Zoro or at least something similar. All Might have fought hundreds of criminal with a variety of Quirks, and there are Quirk that could alter the environment, he even know a hero that could manipulate the landscape of rock(minus the merging, and admittedly, since this is his prime he may or may not met Cementoss before fighting All For One). So it isn't that far off of the assumption that he would know how to deal with an ability similar to Pica. I think All Might had the strength rip the stone golem off the ground and throw it into the air similar to Zoro.

In fact, there is similar Quirk at least in the application, Mimicry(coincidentally, the user is also prone to anger from insults). Although, All Might have not fought said Quirk user, though since there is a character with similar ability should not be discounted.

All Might have the AP advantage. Of course, the question is whether or not he could find Pica's real body before the stone golem could reach the ground, and with the latter Haki, it will prove hard to find Pica since he could move around the giant Golem. Although I think he could pull off since has shown to do 300 punch in a short timeframe and would be able to shave off the stone into small pieces and found Pica. and unlike Zoro, his range is far more wider and longer range and could shear stone and metal even in his weakened state.

All Might has shown to have great reflex and multitask before including in midair crisis where he had punched a tower, collect its rubbles, save a bunch of animals, clear out the area, took a selfie, and put down the dome safely and did a pose, all before CC and Koichi could fall to the ground and also save them after that. Gravity would still remain the same and he had done a lot under those limitations. All Might has shown to have great control in his smash as he had a create a tornado to trap an explosion.

In my opinion I think he could find Pica sooner or later and could punch him out of his stone shell(though this is just a thought and a probability of me being hyperbole as they would say, but what is really stopping All Might from just keeping the Pica stone giant in midair by just juggling it or punching until he searches each and every rock? He has shown to have that much control.)

And so due to having a greater AP, could punch in a quick rate, long range and wide attacks, high reflex, could multitask, have the experience to think of a way to beat Pica and just being a type of guy that would anger Pica a lot, my vote would be All Might.
 
He's not wrong tho there are some holes in his reasoning.

>Toshinori has fast travel speed

This is the same for Pica. Speed is equalized in this match so the speed he moves Pica has as well.

>He can toss around the stone

Yes, he can do it, but the problem is that as long as he isn't doing something like pulverizing the rock, Pica could just add it to the golem once again. Rinse and repeat, making Toshinori's efforts pointless.

I'm not going to say a thing about him knowing about similar Quirks since it's entirely possible, it's not an unfair assumption, but still an assumption.

Who's this Mimicry user? The name makes me think on Monoma little shit.

>300 attacks in a short timeframe

Speed equalized. Pica can do that too even with his giant golem.

>AP advantage

Yes, he holds the advantage, but considering the difference is minimal and Pica can use Haki to amp himself, this is probably not a thing the moment Pica uses it, turning the tides of the battle into his favor even without his DF powers.

Even if his prime wasn't show tired in any moment, he has a limit while Pica scales from people who can fight for several hours, getting bad injuries, to the point of two fodders fighting for 12 hours in even conditions so he surely holds the stamina advantage.
 
Current Votes:-

All Stone: 6 (Calaca Vs, PlumCrayfish376, ZackMoon1234, Schnee One, Rei Rubro, Johunser)

All Might: 2 (1v1 Debater, Dannysayan)
 

I will try to respond on most of your criticism, by fast travel speed, I meant All Might could maintain that speed, for what I remember, Zoro can't really maintain his combat speed over a long distance only in short burst. All Might would most likely reach Pica if he was in his situation since he could mantain it.

Also on the tossing, Pica can't really form more stones if he were in the air, that's why Zoro flung him in the first place.

Same with the 300 punch, it's more on All Might being able to shatter the stones fast enough to find Pica. And again, considering how he was able to multitask while saving a falling dome full of thousands of people not in his prime, it is not unreasonable that he couldn't force Pica to come out.

I don't know how much of an AP difference, but it does not seem to me that Pica in his normal form has more power considering the Likely in his Tier on his human form.

Is the opponent in question Zoro? Also, did Pica fought 12 hours or just scales from said person, did he fought leisurely or he has to fight with all his might(pun unintended), did he fought in his Haki during those time, if not wouldn't that deplete it faster. I don't really have much to say on the stamina between since I don't think that would be much of a factor and I have not much information since the only thing it says in the profiles is Pica stamina is High while All Might is Very High.


Also, slightly off track, but would All For One vs Pica be viable, the post version with Ragdolls quirk of the Former or maybe a composite version if you will.
 
That'd apply to Zoro's travel speed. Oda stated something like that when he was asked who'd win a race between the Strawhats, when he said that Zoro has the energy but couldn't maintain it. But for combat and reaction speed Zoro has never showed such a flaw.

That's assuming All Might manages to leave Pica in the air and beats him before it lands.

Forcing Pica isn't the problem. Defeating Pica is the problem, actually.

Pica still clashed with Zoro before getting one-shoted the moment the latter went serious, and again, the difference must be minimal if it exists considering Haki would cover the gap if Pica is weaker.

His Durability is also Mountain+, without likely. He can further enhance it with Haki, giving more problems to Toshinori to actually land a fatal hit.

Like I said, two fodders from BoS fought for 12 hours straight, punch by punch. Pica's way above that.

Toshinori's stamina is listed as such because he has shown feats on that level. We're just using "High" for the characters even when they're clearly far stronger than the Pre-TS versions that can take lots of punishment and fight for extended periods of time. And stamina's "tier" is subjective. It's not tied to some rule nor strict classification.

I'd rather use another character to fight All for One. Pica's boring tbh.
 
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