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Ikki vs Novel Kars
- Thread starter Oblivion_Of_The_Endless
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Ugh for real though.
Ok so what does Kars have against passive fear, will, paralysis and perception hax?
Besides this and type 4 immort, Ikki has fate and death hax, but i'd rather avoid listing them on the options.
Ok so what does Kars have against passive fear, will, paralysis and perception hax?
Besides this and type 4 immort, Ikki has fate and death hax, but i'd rather avoid listing them on the options.
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Can Ikki even permanently put N. Kars down? He cant physically hurt Kars due to Tier difference and if killed Kars has D4CU to bring himself back.
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Ikki stands there. Kars gets passived into incapacitation. That's all he needs. Passive stomp for Ikki.PsychoWarper said:
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Why do people love putting Jojo characters vs people with passive hax?
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Yeah. Passive stuff is basically their only weakness.
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Spite maybe.
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Honestly it's probably not knowing better
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Like for real, passives mean jack when he can't affect souls. The worst part is that MiHU is in this so if BtD resets time and gives Kars a second chance, Kars can speed up time to the point of completely blitzing Ikki. Not to mention the fact that if he survives the passives he gains a resistance to them. Also D4CU can spam more Kars from other worlds. Ikki would have to get rid of literally infinite Kars before he wins.
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Ok Kars resets.
Fight starts again.
Passives kick in. Kars gets incapped again.
Infinite tries won't do anything against passives.
Fight starts again.
Passives kick in. Kars gets incapped again.
Infinite tries won't do anything against passives.
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Wouldnt Kars eventually Understand and Adapt though?
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ProbablyPsychoWarper said:
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Not rly. He gets incapped and perception haxxed.PsychoWarper said:
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But he has passive adaptation and is constantly coming back so he'd eventually adapt.
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Yeah. Killer Queen can just act seperately of Kars because it's still technically Yoshikage Kira's stand, so it just blows Ikki to kingdom come.
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I gotta excuse myself. But why don't Kars' stand percieve Ikki as a dangerous foe and just drop the fight again? Ikki's fear hax is not mind hax. It's literally him having such an intense presence that anyone who sees him percieves him as too strong.
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At least Kars gains some cool new passives ovo.
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@Fire
Kars is too much of an arrogant prick to care
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Also Kars would adapt to resist the Fear Hax.
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Then it's as easy as:Sir Ovens said:
Automatic Stands: Percieve him as too powerful.
Normal stands: Share Kars' fear and sit in a corner with him
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I already explaind. Ikki doesn't need to affect stands. The stands need to percieve Ikki. Feeling Ikki's aura is enough to trigger the hax.Sir Ovens said:
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Hardly, he won't be able to addapt to his own emotions. As i said this is not mind hax. Ikki's aura is just so strong it makes people too scared to fight him and/or induce any of the passive effects i mentioned. Addapting to that is not as easy as addapting to time stop or other hax like that.PsychoWarper said:
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Anyway my last say here is "Ikki passively stomps cus kars and his stands will be percieving Ikki as too strong to fight, because they will all be able to feel his aura".
Im out now.
Im out now.
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Hardly, he won't be able to addapt to his own emotions. As i said this is not mind hax. Ikki's aura is just so strong it makes people too scared to fight him and/or induce any of the passive effects i mentioned. Addapting to that is not as easy as addapting to time stop or other hax like that.
I think adapting to time stop is more impressive than overcoming your emotion though.
I think adapting to time stop is more impressive than overcoming your emotion though.
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Except that he would eventually adapt to see that Ikki isnt stronger than him.
Plus his Adaptation/Understand has allowed him to copy tier 2 stuff and make it better which is more impressive.
Also Kars could probably just shut off his Mind and go from there since he can still fight and operate without his Mind.
Plus his Adaptation/Understand has allowed him to copy tier 2 stuff and make it better which is more impressive.
Also Kars could probably just shut off his Mind and go from there since he can still fight and operate without his Mind.
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What passives does Ikki have? A list please.
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Apparently he has passive fear, will, paralysis and perception manip.
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Iirc:TacticalNuke002 said:
- Willpower manip
- Fear manip
- Perception manip
- Paralysis
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Kars takes all the passives, the infinite other Kars see this and UNDERSTAND, and then they come and whack Ikki's ass. Omega stomp for Kars.
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There is no reason for D4CU to not do it.
