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Naruto speed upgrade

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Hello. My calc was approved, and it is time for scaling. Tata said if the Toneri calc stays (the 0.34c one) then my calc is fine. As we dont know if the Toneri's calc will stay, I am gonna make two scalings.

With Toneri calc

All Kage level ninjas and above will be sub rela+

For Onoki, as he flew side by side with the meteors

Speed: At least Sub-Relativistic+ (Flew side by side with some meteors, wich can go at this speed)

And the others ninjas just need to change the rating and add "Can react to this meteors" for both Gaara and Mei.

If the Toneri's calc gets removed, then the characters would be at least Mach 6088, a higher scale of MHS+.

Also, I have problems with this Nagato's calc, it seems wrong, just for the timeframe. We can see that the RS crossed the entire crater before Pain reaches the ground, with that, we should use half of the timeframe. And also, the timeframe itself is wrong, a calculated timeframe gave a 0.6 seconds results while Kep's calc use 0.8 with no base.

EDIT: Seems to agree with 0.5 seconds, so here is the new speed calc
 
we already had this talk before, but whom does kage level include exactly? i agree with sub rel reaction time, like i said, but movement speed is something i completly disagree with.
 
There is no reason to consider only reaction speed when Onomi can easly fly side by aide with one meteor and after, complains with back pain
 
Gaara's sand and Mei's attack can reach the meteors and react to them. They should scale to attack speed and reaction I think
 
gaara's sand is far faster then gaara himself. consistenly proven as such. and as for mei, all she did was launch a water dragon that went after it and destroyed it. her seeing it doesnt really mean much, since other fodder ninjas could do so as well. her jutsu are what scale
 
other calc or not, other showings have them as being much slower. and the higher the result, the further away it will be from what they show wants to represent, which will then make it an outlier or hyperbole
 
I was going to ask for your opinion. Good to see you again.

I mean, the thread was droped after some one said that there is arguments in favor of the calc wich was not debunked (two threads in favor of the calc) and the majority of the OP's arguments were debunked. But yeah, still have the Nagato's speed inssue. Whats your opinion about?
 
ah yes, M3, good that u said that. i have seen that most people who vote in favour of approving these calcs and threads never give reasons, and only want the show to increase in power or speed with whatever it takes. so why dont we change that, and inteads of listening to the "yeah, i agree"s, why dont we make a real, fact based vote on this?
 
All of the Kage scale to Madara in someway when it comes to speed anyway. We don't need statements when we obviously got feats
 
I'm with BFF. If the calc is approved by a few more people, I'll have no problem accepting it.
 
Has somebody asked Kepekley23 yet?
 
Okay. I will ask him as well.
 
Also, I think we should upgrade Obito's lifting strength of Superhuman to At least Class 1. He can snap necks.

Would also apply to any Naruto character who has feats of snapping necks. Naruto's kid form in base is Superhuman, so why his Teen and Adult self in base aren't is a mystery to me.
 
I suppose that seems to make sense.
 
I would contact Kep but it takes on deaf ears so really we should ask someone who's closer to him to ask him
 
I have already asked.
 
Since this is based off of the Toneri calc, then my opinion is the same as it is on that thread
 
It's not as if we depended on that calculation, this was just a suggestion/opinion given by Tata. However this is not the only thread's subject, we still have the problem that I brought with the timeframe of your calculation
 
Using the timeframe of Nagato's free-fall (which that guy calc'ed at 0.6s) is incorrect and has been rejected in the past, since Nagato jumped after the Rasenshuriken had already crossed the crater and thus there's no comparison to be made.

I chose 0.8s because it is lower than 1s, which is all we can discern from the panel. Maybe it's arbitrary, but 0.6s is even more arbitrary considering it is an unrelated scene.
 
Well, if Kepekley rejects this, it probably cannot be used.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, if Kepekley rejects this, it probably cannot be used.
I dont get why Kep is the sole decider on everything Naruto... Like I dont care too much on the Nagato thing but seriously we have multiple knowlegable members.
 
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