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Hope this is fair.

  • Speed Equalized
  • Batman knows about how King Crimson works
  • Both in character
  • Starting distance of 30 meters (Can be changed)
Batman render by HIT Il
Diavolo A
Votes:

  • Diavolo: 15 (The Arsenal, Zark, TriforcePower, ThePixelKirby, DaBigP, Paulojunior969, JohnConquest, Axll223, DALOKA, JooCipher, ABoogieYesSir, Totallynotchwbacca, TacticalNuke, Sixo Bullets)
  • Batma: 3 (Elizhaa, Inverted Tempest, Christian Higdon)
 
Hmm I'm not sure that helps him with Diavolo doughnuting him, but Bruce does have Instinctive Reactions. So I guess it comes down to whether that's enough to dodge KC and land a hit on Diavolo or not.
 
I think OP has stated that Batman has prior info.


Can KC oneshot Batman? It's Building+ AP vs. Building Dura.
 
In theory he can be aware of time erases, but he has to do something useful after that. What would he do?
 
Yobo Blue wrote
So it leaves the results, but wouldn't that mean that Diavolo would still feel the results of mindhax or poison?

The whole action needs to last for more than 10 seconds and for there to not be a way for Diavolo to avoid it.
 
While I figure this out, I'll say this.


Batman has ways to incap and ignore AP, has instinctive reactions and enough sensory abilities to dodge KC, far more experience, and a pretty solid enough mind to grasp when King Crimson's effect has occurred.
 
The whole action needs to last for more than 10 seconds and for there to not be a way for Diavolo to avoid it.

So, nerve gases should be enough to do it in? And KC has a cooldown, right?
 
If they last for more than 10 seconds and their AoE is bigger than what DIavolo can avoid, yes. And I'm pretty sure it doesn't but Diavolo spamming it instantly is not really that common.
 
Also if Batman is stronger than Katana, especially if Katana is anything over .50 tons, he doesn't get oneshot via AP. 8-C+ starts at 1 ton so...there's not a big gap
 
So, basically, if King Crimson doesn't one shot before time erasing or before Batman hides, Batman has any number of methods to incap or kill Diavolo himself. Voting Batman for those reasons. Tentatively.
 
If Batman can stop himself from being doughnuted the instant the fight starts since, Diavolo leads with KC. And he can still see the future 10 sec.
 
Yes, but Epitaph mostly is used for time erase and Batman has his own precognition and instinctive reaction. He's more then capable of dodging King Crimson, especially if he knows about its abilities before.hand
 
Eficiente said:
How is Batman going to incap? I will vote him after knowing that.
Nerve Gas, Pressure Points, Electricity, or hitting Diavolo with something that hits him and KC outside of a time skip.

Also the fact that Batman can basically slip away and pull sneak attacks pretty much undetected.
 
Ogbunabali said:
He knows how KC works, he doesn't know Diavolo doughnuts.
He knows that time will be erased and he won't know what's happened. Which is definitely a good reason to attempt a dodge, especially when paired with IR
 
Diavolo counters literally everything Batman can do honestly. All stealth or tricks are counted in erased time and if he doesn't one shot with one punch, he erases and does it over till he does. Epitaph is like the perfect counter to Batman

Voting Diavolo
 
TheArsenal1212 said:
Diavolo counters literally everything Batman can do honestly. All stealth or tricks are counted in erased time and if he doesn't one shot with one punch, he erases and does it over till he does. Epitaph is like the perfect counter to Batman

Voting Diavolo
And he won't get the chance. Batman just dodges, and stealth is definitely not countered by erased time. You have to explain how erased time counters all of Batman's arsenal, since he definitely has stuff that can bypass Time Erase.
 
Yobo Blue said:
Nerve Gas, Pressure Points, Electricity, or hitting Diavolo with something that hits him and KC outside of a time skip.
Pressure Points and Electricity wouldn't work, Diavolo shows having precog within erased time, he will see that coming. What do you mean by "hitting Diavolo with something that hits him and KC outside of a time skip"?
 
Pressure Points and Electricity wouldn't work, Diavolo shows having precog within erased time, he will see that coming. What do you mean by "hitting Diavolo with something that hits him and KC outside of a time skip"?

Even if he can see them, that doesn't mean he can avoid them.
 
@Jackythejack

Building+. He can oneshot a baseline. It's a ******* nightmare to track the exact values.
 
I've come to the conclusion that Diavolo is like, maybe two times stronger than Batman if that in terms of AP.

Not sure if that matters
 
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