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High 8-C Brackets Round 23

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Twenty-third round of the High 8-C Brackets Begins! The winner of the last round was the Hiei.

Current Standings (A "-1" indicates the fighter was disqualified or was stomped)

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The contenders for this round are Chelsea Mamonarge, submitted by DontTalkDT, and Genji (Overwatch), submitted by SBBXeno573.

Speed is equalized, Battle takes place in Volskaya Industries, 20m away.

Chelsea is 2.63 Tons, Genji scales to 4.7 Tons.

Chelsea Mamonarge - 3 (Drite, Donttalk, Ciruno)

Genji (Overwatch) -

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To start off, Genji have the AP advantage, and can make the difference even greater with his sword. He can also prob reflect Chelsea's Danmaku with his sword. In long range, Chelsea clearly have the advangtage, but Genji can clear this with his teleportion, and, since Genji is prob the most skilled fighter in CQC, he would prob easy defeat Chelsea with his sword. But the thing is that Chelsea can carry 20 Elixirs that will instantly recover her health even when they hit 0, granted that Genji will have no problem in take out Chelsea, but she can prob gain range with her air jumps, than she would prob just spam range attacks, now, Genji could reflect most of it, but i think that the amount of projectiles would, overtime, hit him and prob Knock out him after some time.

I think i will give this to Chelsea because of the 20 Elixirs thing
 
Can Genji reflect things that would usually explode on contact?


That aside, I think Genji has problems with flying enemies, due to neither being able to fly nor being a good ranged fighter.

I think Genji has a bad matchup against Pharah for that very reason? Considering that I would give it for Chelsea.
 
@DT Yes, he can, such as Pharah's missiles, 76's pulse rockets, and junkrat's grenades

He is a good ranged fighter though? His main form of attack is spamming ranged shurikens with pinpoint accuracy
 
I just think that, based on profiles, Chelsea have more ways of engaging Genji in Long range
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@DT Yes, he can, such as Pharah's missiles, 76's pulse rockets, and junkrat's grenades
He is a good ranged fighter though? His main form of attack is spamming ranged shurikens with pinpoint accuracy
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In all fairness there isn't much he can do about them exploding next to him once Chelsea sees that shooting directly at him isn't working.

That's like, Genji's only ranged ability though, past deflecting projectiles.
 
And? Genji regularly fights and beats people who use far better and more varied ranged options than himself

Plus if theyre only starting 20 m away he can easily close the gap
 
I also noticed that Genji could easily defeat Chelsea in the first moment, then i remembered that Chelsea have like, 20 lifes or something
 
@Drite He can also reflect non-physical projectiles such as moira's biotic orbs, symmetra's energy pulses, lucios normal sound attacks, and reinhards's fire strike
 
WeeklyBattles said:
And? Genji regularly fights and beats people who use far better and more varied ranged options than himself
Plus if theyre only starting 20 m away he can easily close the gap
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I mean, if your point is the gameplay he also regularly fights and loses to more varied ranged opponents.

If your point is the lore all we have is his missions w/Blackwatch and his fight with Hanzo, the former we don't know that much about.

Chelsea has flight, so she would just repopen the gap. Genji can dash a pretty large distance and can use buildings as leverage, yeah, but there'll be a point where she just flies out of his range.
 
@Dargoo Not caught up on the lore? He regularly spars with tracer and briggite and he fought doomfist alongside tracer and winston
 
Genji could easily close the gap between them, and proceed to eliminate Chelsea, the thing is that he need to do this 20 times or so
 
WeeklyBattles said:
@Dargoo Not caught up on the lore? He regularly spars with tracer and briggite and he fought doomfist alongside tracer and winsto
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Doomfist kicked the shit out of him, though. Nor does he or Baguette abuse range like Chelsea.

He was in a closed space fighting Tracer in that comic, and Tracer can't exactly fly. That and Tracer's pistols lose effectiveness with more range.
 
Wait whats stopping him from just killing her a bunch of times with dragonblade?

Also his dash resets every time he kills an opponent, seeing as he can potentially oneshot her he can spam it very easily
 
I would give this to Genji if Chelsea don't have those, but he doing that 20 times is too much, and Chelsea would likely use air jumps to gain range
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Wait whats stopping him from just killing her a bunch of times with dragonblade?
Also his dash resets every time he kills an opponent, seeing as he can potentially oneshot her he can spam it very easily
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Her flying out of Dragonblade's range.

IDK if Chelsea is "killed" when she uses a potion, although I may be wrong.

Genji also doesn't start with Dragonblade in like any of his battles from what I remember.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
Wait whats stopping him from just killing her a bunch of times with dragonblade?
Also his dash resets every time he kills an opponent, seeing as he can potentially oneshot her he can spam it very easily
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Chelsea heve unlimited air jumps to get away from him
 
Chelsea doesn't just have air jumps, she can actually also fly freely.

Ultimately Genji will just be limited to shuriken spam, since all his sword techniques won't reach a flying opponent, and Chelsea is a character that deals with danmaku, meaning she can deal with that (especially if she uses the vermillion rod).

Beyond that one of Chelsea's common moves is to cover the entire floor with fire, which Genji shouldn't be able to reflect and, as some that can't fly, also doesn't have a tool to avoid.

Beyond that is Wrath of God, which should also not be reflectable on ground of being a large explosion.


Chelsea's giant swords flying in a ring around her additionally make close combat difficult, even if flight wouldn't already.
 
TBH, i think that Genji would be able to close his distance and prob finish her in the first moments, but due to Elixirs and the fact that Chelsea can just maintain range, Genji will have a hard time
 
How would he in speed equal close the gap that quickly? Does he instantly start spamming teleportation in character or something?

Edit: The Ap gap is also less than 2x...
 
This almost feels unfair tbh. With the 20 respawns and the flight. Genji specializes in melee. I think the disadvantage is really on him. That said take away those same abilities and Genji kinda pwns her. I'll have to cast my vote for Chelsea.
 
IDK, i just think that the teleportation would likely close the gap in the first moments, but Chelsea would take this eventually, if Teleportation is not IC, than Genji would likely loose from the begining, with no real reason to use the Elixirs
 
If we could use Chelsea without the res, this could be more fair, but hey, nothing is perfect
 
Ciruno Fortes said:
This almost feels unfair tbh. With the 20 respawns and the flight.
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*flashbacks to False Berserker*
 
Drite77 said:
  • don't understand due to being new*
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Fate servant in the 7-A brackets who cheesed his way through a couple of fights through 200x duplication.
 
DontTalkDT said:
How would he in speed equal close the gap that quickly? Does he instantly start spamming teleportation in character or something?

Edit: The Ap gap is also less than 2x...
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Yes

His damage boost allows him to oneshot people ad durable as himself
 
That is something i guess, remember me of another fighter here that could do 100 clones, that each one could do 100 clones and have Low-Godly applicable in combat regen, good times
 
i thought that the boost is only for his ult, or we consider the teleport to have the same stats as the ult?
 
My bad, but i remember that his dash have a cooldown, and i don't think that it can cover 20 meters with only one
 
His damage boost is something temporary though, isn't it? And also essentially his ult. meaning he doesn't just instantly use it in battle, right?

Chelsea could also counteract it through the invulnerability (read here: increased durability) and time manipulation of the vermillion rod.


I should also bring up that in speed equal it should be more difficult than usual for genji to hit multiple simultanously fired projectiles with his sword.
 
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