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So I've been watching the anime, and I've noticed a couple interesting things that could lead to a potential upgrade in the verse (or at least Kirby's) speed

https://youtu.be/ALufPyN4I80?t=706

https://youtu.be/peEn-49TFoc?t=646

https://youtu.be/THNtjE0aDlE?t=1169

Two of those involve Kirby dodging shots from Destroya that are classified as plasma, which I've been told travels at MHS speed, and he did this on a damaged Warp Star. They are plasma balls, which could hinder their speed, but Kirby dodges a bunch of these in a row. More significant is the last one, which has Kirby fly to the sun in order to throw the monster Red Viper into it. The distance between Popstar and the sun must be pretty far, considering that the planet's ozone functions in a similar way to Earth, so it wouldn't make sense if the sun was ridiculously close to the planet, and Kirby did get there quick.

Idk, I just think it's interesting.
 
The distance between Popstar and the sun must be pretty far, considering that the planet's ozone functions in a similar way to Earth, so it wouldn't make sense if the sun was ridiculously close to the planet, and Kirby did get there quick.

This argument assumes that sun is as big as ours, but a planet can get the same sunlight level -as Earth does- from a much smaller sun if it's close enough.

In fact, the scene clearly shows how big that sun is compared to Kirby, the Warp Star and Red Viper, like certain other scene clearly shows how big it is compared to the frying pan and Popon.
 
That does remind me of how, even though its probably non-scaleable, Nightmare's planet-sized fortress exploding must be a pretty decent yield.

As for the sun, well...it should still be a pretty big distance away. It's not like, right next to the planet or anything, there is clearly a sizeable gap and one that should yield speeds greater than what is given.
 
I'm referring to Nightmare creating Kirby who has a 4-A dimension in his stomach and having a 4-A dimension under his coat, too.

Can someone link Kirby throwing Popopo to the sun? The feat in the OP is hard to calculate.
 
Okay, this is just a rough calculation but it should give us an idea. Sun is 8 light minutes from Earth, so Popopo travels at least 16 light minutes of distance. It's probably more as he seems to be quite distant from the sun, but I don't think it changes all that much.

Feat starts at :25 and ends at :43, so 18 seconds. 16 minutes light are 960 light seconds, so Kirby threw Popopo at around x53 times the speed of light.
 
The real cal howard said:
Goddammit not this again...
What's wrong? Aren't there methods to depict objects as planet-sized or sun-sized along with bird-sized or human-sized characters/objects, and not smaller like in those two scenes?
 
Can we use the average distance of a black hole to Earth?

That would get somewhere close to 1 billion c.
 
Well, that's V616 Monocerotis, 3000 light years from Earth.

Of course, Popstar is not Earth, but...it's something.
 
Somelatinguy said:
However, that sun lacks mountains, oceans, towns... So, it can be smaller.
What does this even mean?

It's a sun.

Suns aren't inhabitable, of course there's not going to be mountains or towns or...oceans. You know, the things that evaporate into steam at the mere presence of too much heat.

Anyway...

equating Popstar to Earth, the nearest black hole would be 3000 light years away.

Feat starts at 19:11 and ends at 19:30

so 2.8382e+19 m/19 s/299792458 m/s means that Kirby threw Whippy at 498274886.896 times lightspeed.

Apparently.
 
Maverick Zero X said:
Somelatinguy downplays Kirby to an absurd degree which Eficiente (and Cal) find incredibly annoying.
Who can forget room-sized planets? </div>
Add me on that, im out, bye.
 
Kirby71, don't you remember when it was clarifired that the argument is actually that the planets are TARDIS-like and Antvasima was the first person understanding it?

Of course it's impossible for a star to have oceans; the point is that stars can be smaller and, therefore, nearer to planets recieving similar sunlight as Earth.
 
Yes, but.

Unless the star was literally right next to the planet (which it isn't), it's still way faster than HHS.
 
Which it isn't... The time frame in space is similar to that in the atmosphere in both scenes. - And how many meteoroids does Kirby dodge in the second one?
 
Why does he need to dodge meteorites exactly.

Realistically meteorites are thousands of miles apart in the asteroid belt anyway.
 
Because combat speed equals travel speed if the character dodges obstacles while traveling.

And children-oriented works are unrealistic, so plasma balls are just as fast as the scene shows, which is more consistent with the rest of the series.
 
Lots of episodes show Kirby can react to tons of obstacles on his warp star, such as Air Ride in Style/Cappy Town Down.

And if shows are unrealistic, then there doesn't need to be asteroids in order for a sun to be far away by that logic.
 
It's not about how fast he flies, it's how fast the projectiles fly. Plasma travels at Mach 140-ish, and Kirby dodged many plasma shots coming at him in quick succession.

Dodging Kirisakin being the fastest Kirby has gone is blatantly untrue given how he threw monsters like Whippy into faraway black holes, Popon into the sun, and flying to a star to throw Red Viper in.

And again, you're just assuming it's a small sun. Occam's Razor makes it far more likely it's a normal sun and Kirby flew faster than light to get to it given that there's other technology in the series that travels FTL, like Battleship Halberd or Kirby's starship he got to Dreamland with.
 
Real plasma travels that fast, but are little children aware of how fast plasma scientifically travels?

Again, there's a transitio in Throw Kirby's scene, so the time frame is uncertain.

It's not an assumption, as Cook Kirby's and the Pomp Up D's scenes clearly show how big the sun is compared to the pan, Popon, Kirby, the Warp Star and Red Viper.

- It's depicted bigger than the scree , so the "objects are depicted smaller so they fit in the screen" argument doesn't apply here.

And in the three cases... https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConvenientlyClosePlanet

Last but not least, the Warp Star's speed has nothing to do with the Halberd's or the starship's.
 
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