Kirby revisions: Everything coming full circle

[Eficiente]

Well, that would mean that the reborn Chaos Elfilis was evil after having been born and Kirby cured him from that, but he was already born good. Or that Kirby cured Chaos Elfilis from being evil right before he died, but Kirby just killed him. We only know that Kirby caused him to be reborn, from there, we don't know if the fact that he was reborn good was pure luck. If Kirby was the cause of that then that's already covered as something Kirby used the Power of Miracles for.

Aside from what the name implies (Power over miracles), the logic is that what the name implies doesn't tie to any direct control over being able to reborn overs, turn them into light, or make them small, thereby implying that the means in which that happened aren't due to "Resurrection of others, Transmutation, and Size Manip", regardless of using those powers.

Well, it could also be that the Power of Miracles triggered itself better due to Kirby facing its source. It's vague, but even then, calling it "passive" is kind of misleading, that would imply it's always active whereas it would actually rarely do things on its own, we would say it's always active but only because we don't know if the times in which it does nothing counts as it not being "on".

 

[Eseseso]

Well, that would mean that the reborn Chaos Elfilis was evil after having been born and Kirby cured him from that, but he was already born good. Or that Kirby cured Chaos Elfilis from being evil right before he died, but Kirby just killed him. We only know that Kirby caused him to be reborn, from there, we don't know if the fact that he was reborn good was pure luck. If Kirby was the cause of that then that's already covered as something Kirby used the Power of Miracles for.

Aside from what the name implies (Power over miracles), the logic is that what the name implies doesn't tie to any direct control over being able to reborn overs, turn them into light, or make them small, thereby implying that the means in which that happened aren't due to "Resurrection of others, Transmutation, and Size Manip", regardless of using those powers.

Ok, this makes more sense.

Well, it could also be that the Power of Miracles triggered itself better due to Kirby facing its source. It's vague, but even then, calling it "passive" is kind of misleading, that would imply it's always active whereas it would actually rarely do things on its own, we would say it's always active but only because we don't know if the times in which it does nothing counts as it not being "on".

This makes sense.

 

[Winter]

Honestly this thread is going too slow. It’s been practically a year since the 2-C revisions were being applied and they were never finished. I remember being on here for those 2-C revisions but the thread basically halted. What happened

 

[Eficiente]

I'm doing it from time to time but I don't have as much time as I used to. I already tried this before, but, can I show you how I add things to the lesser Star Allies & enemy characters so that any of you may give me a hand?

 

[Antvasima]

What currently needs to be evaluated here?

 

[Eficiente]

Nothing right now, I need to finish editing way too many profiles (It's like a baby version of Pokémon in that regard) with things already accepted. After that I will make new revisions, and the first thing in that list will be making some profiles shorter as pointed out to me in another thread. The issue is that I have little time and motivation to keep on editing, but it's a trivial issue as I will do so eventually.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I hope that you will feel better soon then.

 

[Eseseso]

Btw, I think that Magolor should be Extraordinary Genius, mainly due to him understanding Halcandran technology such as the Lor Starcutter and the Energy Spheres, which President Haltmann and Susie (both EG's themselves) had a lot of trouble understanding.

 

[Hypertornado099]

How much of it did he understand?

 

[NegaNote]

Enough of it to nigh-perfectly make use of the things.

 

[Eficiente]

That's more or less right for the wrong reasons. There is a solid argument to be made there, but we don't know it for sure, it would be something like likely or possibly. It will be in my next thread.

We have more info on another Kirby manga; it's called Kirby of the Stars: The Story of Dedede Who Lives In Pupupu

• AP and speed: Throw Kirby grabs & throws Planet Popstar (Kirby Manga Mania Volume 2, Chapter 2), called a planet here & here. Notes: The sizes of the spaces inside Popstar are often shown to be bigger than how Planet Popstar is next to Kirby in that panel. Every other character (like the ones saying "oh noo") are inside of Popstar, which most likely means that the sizes shown aren't literal, rather than having Kirby growing in size.

No other feat comes even close to this.

 

[Antvasima]

Btw, I think that Magolor should be Extraordinary Genius, mainly due to him understanding Halcandran technology such as the Lor Starcutter and the Energy Spheres, which President Haltmann and Susie (both EG's themselves) had a lot of trouble understanding.

@Eseseso

This seems reasonable to me.

 

[Eficiente]

Well, Magolor understood that technology enough to reactivate the Lor Starcutter, which we don't know how broken & in misuse it was. Say, one can repair a car w/o knowing how to built one. And of course, Magolor knows how to use the Lor, but knowing how to use anything isn't the same as knowing the ins and outs of how it's made.

Team Haltmann does have a hard time understanding ancient technology, however the one text we have about it could be interpreted as them straight up not understanding it, or that the type of technology they use is different from what they are used to see, therefore being special, but not they can't necessarily understand it if they put their minds to it.

 

[Eseseso]

Well, Magolor understood that technology enough to reactivate the Lor Starcutter, which we don't know how broken & in misuse it was. Say, one can repair a car w/o knowing how to built one. And of course, Magolor knows how to use the Lor, but knowing how to use anything isn't the same as knowing the ins and outs of how it's made.

Team Haltmann does have a hard time understanding ancient technology, however the one text we have about it could be interpreted as them straight up not understanding it, or that the type of technology they use is different from what they are used to see, therefore being special, but not they can't necessarily understand it if they put their minds to it.

So that's a no, then? I can understand your reasoning.

It will be in my next thread.

Oh? There is going to be a 2nd Kirby thread?

 

[Eficiente]

I agree with it as a Possibly.

Yes. As soon as I finish to apply everything accepted here.

 

[Eficiente]

Would you guys like an update of what's to come in the future and how everything's going so far?

 

[Spinoirr]

Would you guys like an update of what's to come in the future and how everything's going so far?

Necro but sure

 

[Eseseso]

Would you guys like an update of what's to come in the future and how everything's going so far?

Absolutely.

 

[Eficiente]

I haven't finish adding the stuff from this thread, but I'm slowly getting back into that work.

In the future:

• Before, not-worthy side content was stated to show what Kirby & others could do, but it wasn't always canon. Turns out, most of it happens in parallels worlds, of which they're many. The only things this doesn't 100% affect are some mini-games and the Story Mode in Return to Dream Land & remake, but even then, Magolor claimed similar mini-games to happen across other dimensions. And that can lead one to believe "At least those too happen across other dimensions. Do all of them happen across other dimensions?"
• In the last world of Triple Deluxe, you can see planet-like things in the space background. And that would be meaningless, but then, if you look closely, they have something behind them to show they're inside Planet Popstar, not outside of it. Even that moon seen at the final fight has this. Most crazy of all, in lower islands of Floralia the same space background could be seen, but not those planets, as if Kirby was going up more than a few thousands of meters. I plan to upgrade Popstar's size to "possibly [Whatever the hell this gives]." Possibly being bc the standard assumption should be that the spaces inside Popstar are bigger in the inside than how they are on the outside. There is a lot that could be said about it.
• Mid-bosses and bosses have a more solid hierarchy among regular enemies, being able to take no damage from weak attacks Kirby & co. use that, in turn, cause no harm to comparable, Kirby-level characters. In turn, I need to download an emulator or something to see if Waddle Dees and such can survive those attacks, which can harm the likes of Knuckles Joe, the guy who can crack part of Popstar.
• There is some neat stuff from other continuities.
  • In the last chapter of Crazy Pupupu Hour!, Dark Matter appears, claiming he could conquer the galaxy in 3 days. So I kinda need go back to start and pick up every mention of how inhabited that galaxy is.
  • In Daily Round Diary!, Another Dimension is used like hyperspace in Star Wars, so the Lor doesn't scale its regular speeds in its interstellar travel in it. ...And then a Doomer tags the ship mid-flight across Another Dimension and the cast keeps up with it.
  • In the same manga, Magolor with the crown is believed by Landia to be able to end the world, and he easily warps reality to create Merry Magoland with its power, 1 of its areas having a sun in the background. It's stated that the crown amps his durability, Dedede is able to harm him, and Landia is impressed that he can do so regardless of the crown's power. I don't think the sun thing scales to attacks & durability yet (the translations aren't over), but the "ending the world" thing does.

Expect things to go slooowly from my part, that's all I can say.

 

[Eseseso]

I haven't finish adding the stuff from this thread, but I'm slowly getting back into that work.

In the future:

• Before, not-worthy side content was stated to show what Kirby & others could do, but it wasn't always canon. Turns out, most of it happens in parallels worlds, of which they're many. The only things this doesn't 100% affect are some mini-games and the Story Mode in Return to Dream Land & remake, but even then, Magolor claimed similar mini-games to happen across other dimensions. And that can lead one to believe "At least those too happen across other dimensions. Do all of them happen across other dimensions?"
• In the last world of Triple Deluxe, you can see planet-like things in the space background. And that would be meaningless, but then, if you look closely, they have something behind them to show they're inside Planet Popstar, not outside of it. Even that moon seen at the final fight has this. Most crazy of all, in lower islands of Floralia the same space background could be seen, but not those planets, as if Kirby was going up more than a few thousands of meters. I plan to upgrade Popstar's size to "possibly [Whatever the hell this gives]." Possibly being bc the standard assumption should be that the spaces inside Popstar are bigger in the inside than how they are on the outside. There is a lot that could be said about it.
• Mid-bosses and bosses have a more solid hierarchy among regular enemies, being able to take no damage from weak attacks Kirby & co. use that, in turn, cause no harm to comparable, Kirby-level characters. In turn, I need to download an emulator or something to see if Waddle Dees and such can survive those attacks, which can harm the likes of Knuckles Joe, the guy who can crack part of Popstar.
• There is some neat stuff from other continuities.
  • In the last chapter of Crazy Pupupu Hour!, Dark Matter appears, claiming he could conquer the galaxy in 3 days. So I kinda need go back to start and pick up every mention of how inhabited that galaxy is.
  • In Daily Round Diary!, Another Dimension is used like hyperspace in Star Wars, so the Lor doesn't scale its regular speeds in its interstellar travel in it. ...And then a Doomer tags the ship mid-flight across Another Dimension and the cast keeps up with it.
  • In the same manga, Magolor with the crown is believed by Landia to be able to end the world, and he easily warps reality to create Merry Magoland with its power, 1 of its areas having a sun in the background. It's stated that the crown amps his durability, Dedede is able to harm him, and Landia is impressed that he can do so regardless of the crown's power. I don't think the sun thing scales to attacks & durability yet (the translations aren't over), but the "ending the world" thing does.

Expect things to go slooowly from my part, that's all I can say.

Looks like a great amount of stuff!

 

[Antvasima]

Eficiente's suggestions seem good to me.

 

[Eseseso]

Btw I was thinking, but did Magolor actually destroy Another Dimension?

If he made it collapse, how come it is later shown to be perfectly fine in stuff like Star Allies and Deluxe: Magolor's Journey that takes place after RttD?

Also:

• Before, not-worthy side content was stated to show what Kirby & others could do, but it wasn't always canon. Turns out, most of it happens in parallels worlds, of which they're many. The only things this doesn't 100% affect are some mini-games and the Story Mode in Return to Dream Land & remake, but even then, Magolor claimed similar mini-games to happen across other dimensions. And that can lead one to believe "At least those too happen across other dimensions. Do all of them happen across other dimensions?"

Does this increase the size of the Kirby cosmology? If so, then to what extent?

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

[…] In turn, I need to download an emulator or something to see if Waddle Dees and such can survive those attacks, which can harm the likes of Knuckles Joe, the guy who can crack part of Popstar.

Do you mean you want to test stuff like whether or not Kirby would one-shot an enemy Waddle Dee using weak attacks such as Slide Kick? I can tell you right now from experience that it takes two or three hits for Kirby to defeat a Waddle Dee that way, as someone who has plenty of the games. However, any playable character from Kirby Fighters 2 can harm each other using these kinds of attacks, meaning Kirby, Bandana Waddle Dee, King Dedede, Meta Knight, Gooey and Magolor can all harm each other using Slide Kick. I haven't tested whether or not Slide Kick works against boss characters in that game.

Also, here is a Google Sheets spreadsheet of data mined stats of all the playable characters and boss characters from Kirby Star Allies: Link. Credit: Link. This is the source the Fandom Kirby Wiki uses, by the way.

 

[Eficiente]

Btw I was thinking, but did Magolor actually destroy Another Dimension?

If he made it collapse, how come it is later shown to be perfectly fine in stuff like Star Allies and Deluxe: Magolor's Journey that takes place after RttD?

He was only affecting some (15 or 15) dimensions there, and even it was all fixed when this happened 15 times over.

Does this increase the size of the Kirby cosmology? If so, then to what extent?

Yes. Every parallel story has parallel versions of the realities shown in said story.

• So a story may show Main Universe 1 & Mirror Wolrld 1, and then a parallel story may have Main Universe 2 & Mirror Wolrld 2.
  • Then a future game may have Main Universe 1 & Alt. Universe 1, and then a parallel story may have Main Universe 2 & Alt. Universe 2.
• And that could actually change in the future. I need to see when and if it is prudent to assume the existence of parallel versions of alt. realities when not stated. For example, does Main Universe 2 & Alt. Universe 2 have its own Mirror Wolrld? Maybe. When is it the same as before and when are new realities forced to exist? It takes patience and it's super nerdy but there are answers to those questions.

Also, the multiverse and Another Dimensio have have "possibly" infinite universes each:

We know that Return to Dream Land Deluxe is a parallel to Return to Dream Land, given the former's new content, particularly Merry Magoland appearing during the story, which has a Magolor (Magolor 1) from another timeline. Return to Dream Land Deluxe would then have its Magolor (Magolor 2) do the same in the future, creating another Merry Magoland so that a new set of Kirby & co. from a new universe would come there. And that Kirby & co. would have their Magolor (Magolor 3) create a new Merry Magoland in the future, being visited by Kirby & co. from yet another new universe, and so on. An infinite set of events that happens concurrently with each other, as the events are all in the past where where the series is right now.

The isssue with this is that, just because Return to Dream Land Deluxe is a parallel to Return to Dream Land, that doesn't mean the Magolor from Return to Dream Land Deluxe will embark in the same actions as the Magolor from Return to Dream Land after the events of the main story. So either right off the bat, or at some point during the loop, it stops. And even if that wasn't the case, maybe at some point he runs out of dimensions where to put his park and where it gets announced to new Kirbys & co.

This is absolutely not intended by the director of the series, just a crazy result of playing with time travel and the multiverse.

Do you mean you want to test stuff like whether or not Kirby would one-shot an enemy Waddle Dee using weak attacks such as Slide Kick? I can tell you right now from experience that it takes two or three hits for Kirby to defeat a Waddle Dee that way, as someone who has plenty of the games.

Also, here is a Google Sheets spreadsheet of data mined stats of all the playable characters and boss characters from Kirby Star Allies: Link. Credit: Link. This is the source the Fandom Kirby Wiki uses, by the way.

Thanks. I would need to show visual evidence of those, at least for Waddle Dees, or whoever is seen as the weakest.

However, any playable character from Kirby Fighters 2 can harm each other using these kinds of attacks, meaning Kirby, Bandana Waddle Dee, King Dedede, Meta Knight, Gooey and Magolor can all harm each other using Slide Kick. I haven't tested whether or not Slide Kick works against boss characters in that game.

This leads to me to think they're putting more power on those moves when using them against such opponents.

Can they harm each other with a Headbutt Attack?

 

[Eseseso]

Yes. Every parallel story has parallel versions of the realities shown in said story.

• So a story may show Main Universe 1 & Mirror Wolrld 1, and then a parallel story may have Main Universe 2 & Mirror Wolrld 2.
  • Then a future game may have Main Universe 1 & Alt. Universe 1, and then a parallel story may have Main Universe 2 & Alt. Universe 2.
• And that could actually change in the future. I need to see when and if it is prudent to assume the existence of parallel versions of alt. realities when not stated. For example, does Main Universe 2 & Alt. Universe 2 have its own Mirror Wolrld? Maybe. When is it the same as before and when are new realities forced to exist? It takes patience and it's super nerdy but there are answers to those questions.

Also, the multiverse and Another Dimensio have have "possibly" infinite universes each:

We know that Return to Dream Land Deluxe is a parallel to Return to Dream Land, given the former's new content, particularly Merry Magoland appearing during the story, which has a Magolor (Magolor 1) from another timeline. Return to Dream Land Deluxe would then have its Magolor (Magolor 2) do the same in the future, creating another Merry Magoland so that a new set of Kirby & co. from a new universe would come there. And that Kirby & co. would have their Magolor (Magolor 3) create a new Merry Magoland in the future, being visited by Kirby & co. from yet another new universe, and so on. An infinite set of events that happens concurrently with each other, as the events are all in the past where where the series is right now.

The isssue with this is that, just because Return to Dream Land Deluxe is a parallel to Return to Dream Land, that doesn't mean the Magolor from Return to Dream Land Deluxe will embark in the same actions as the Magolor from Return to Dream Land after the events of the main story. So either right off the bat, or at some point during the loop, it stops. And even if that wasn't the case, maybe at some point he runs out of dimensions where to put his park and where it gets announced to new Kirbys & co.

This is absolutely not intended by the director of the series, just a crazy result of playing with time travel and the multiverse.

So the complete cosmology is "2-C, possibly 2-A", but no one scales to the 2-A.

 

[James_Plays_4_Games]

Thanks. I would need to show visual evidence of those, at least for Waddle Dees, or whoever is seen as the weakest.

I double checked in Kirby Star Allies and discovered that my claim had a slight error. Slide Kick seems to be slightly stronger than Air Bullet, and the former one-shots more enemies than the latter. A Waddle Dee gets one-shot by Slide Kick, but can survive one Air Bullet. I took this opportunity to record footage of examples, and transfer footage from my Switch to my smartphone for the first time, so I can provide footage now. Here you go:

This leads to me to think they're putting more power on those moves when using them against such opponents.

Can they harm each other with a Headbutt Attack?

I tried making Kirby bonk other Kirbys with his head from both above and below, and no damage was done, so I believe the Headbutt attack doesn't work against other playable characters in Kirby Fighters 2. I recorded and uploaded footage from this game as well, and it includes testing Slide Kick on the non-playable bosses. Here you go:

 

[Eseseso]

So the complete cosmology is "2-C, possibly 2-A", but no one scales to the 2-A.

Or would Void/Void Termina scale to this "possibly 2-A"?

 

[Eficiente]

So the complete cosmology is "2-C, possibly 2-A", but no one scales to the 2-A.

Small personal ramble; as common as it is, I always found it awkward to call the size of a cosmology the name of the tier used to destroy it. We don't have a page saying we do that. The page that gives those terms uses them for AP, whereas we may use them to talk about the size & range of those structures alone.

Yes, the cosmology would be exactly like that.

@James_Plays_4_Games That is great, thanks.

Or would Void/Void Termina scale to this "possibly 2-A"?

Well, no. You asked that more than once already. And granted, a lot of new info always pops up, however, by Void's nature, any Void being able to one-shot the multiverse doesn't make sense:

Void reincarnates good or evil, if you assume the evil ones aim to one-shot the multiverse, you would think there would be no multiverse already. In the main universe, Void got sealed for a long time, and remarkable heroes defeated him twice when born evil. Other dimensions with different events playing out are on their own. In them, and since the beginning of all life, all it takes is 1 evil Void to one-shot the multiverse for the multiverse to be gone already. We can assume heroes stop him just in time sometimes, but always being able to stop him, and all his evil reincarnations across time, across all alt. Voids in all dimensions?

Void Termina being able to "destroy everything" will never be recontextualized as a multiversal feat by later information.

 

[Eseseso]

Void reincarnates good or evil, if you assume the evil ones aim to one-shot the multiverse, you would think there would be no multiverse already. In the main universe, Void got sealed for a long time, and remarkable heroes defeated him twice when born evil. Other dimensions with different events playing out are on their own. In them, and since the beginning of all life, all it takes is 1 evil Void to one-shot the multiverse for the multiverse to be gone already.

Tbf, you could make that argument about a lot of media regarding sealed evils that scale to the cosmology.

We can assume heroes stop him just in time sometimes, but always being able to stop him, and all his evil reincarnations across time, across all alt. Voids in all dimensions?

I mean the Friend Hearts IIRC allow one to "change destiny" in large enough numbers according to the JP translations, and the Heart Spears (which are made from Friend Hearts) were used by the heroes to defeat Void when he became evil.

Void Termina being able to "destroy everything" will never be recontextualized as a multiversal feat by later information.

At the very least, I think the original Void (who TBF doesn't have a profile) should scale via being the origin of everything, including "all possibilities".

I still think Void Termina should scale via but we can argue that in a separate thread.

 

[CloverDragon03]

What even is the current objective of the revision rn, I feel like we got turbo sidetracked

 

[Eficiente]

Tbf, you could make that argument about a lot of media regarding sealed evils that scale to the cosmology.

Well, I don't make much out of it, since I don't just believe stuff like that if it's not a verse I'm familiar with. Maybe you're right, but that doesn't really change anything in this case.

I mean the Friend Hearts IIRC allow one to "change destiny" in large enough numbers according to the JP translations, and the Heart Spears (which are made from Friend Hearts) were used by the heroes to defeat Void when he became evil.

They don't actually. I had statements ready if they did, which it seems like they could for a moment, but the story-telling there was so bad it was all just vague wording in the end. Speculation wise, I'm sure they would say they were aiming for that if asked.

At the very least, I think the original Void (who TBF doesn't have a profile) should scale via being the origin of everything, including "all possibilities".

I still think Void Termina should scale via but we can argue that in a separate thread.

Well, that's out of context:

• All Voids in the multiverse have that, not just 1.
• It refers to all the ways in which "life forms" may develop; their morality, their nature, and their abilities. And by "life forms" I include beings born as souls, born in dreams, and most likely in the painting world. Essentially, the Voids have a bit of the DNI of all the beings borned after themselves, which is everyone in the series, except maybe the people of the real world.
  • In turn, the Voids don't have all their powers & abilities (in case you wonder); they have some at random, and the potential to branch into any of all of them when borned & developed by a few minutes.

You can understand all of this by reading the same pause description that mentions "all possibilities," it says he's the origen of all that, yes, and their ancestor. You can't be the ancestor of things you create. Other valid translations fuse him being the "origin" and "ancestor" as "ancestor of the origin" or the like, which is the same. You can also see that the description refers to all forms of "life" in Kirby, not the cosmology itself, and that in turn Void has gimmicks around other forms of "life" in terms of his nature & abilities.

(Void, as a character, is not inspired by, say, a creator God, but a lot of tales of things being the origin of all other things & sharing substance with all other things that came after them [Less popular in the west]. It has nothing to do with the cosmology, aside from how all the cosmology has "life" in it.)

As such, the Void you mention is not really special. The Void who could have a profile is the one that came right before Void Termina, the one the 4 ancient heroes beat. Btw, that one was stated to be the originator of darkness, which could very well mean that there was no "darkness" (Vague evil energy stuff in Kirby) in that universe before that.

(Also even if Void did create the multiverse it would be a Creation feat, not AP his regular attacks scale to.)

(And even if 1 Void did create the multiverse, it would follow that we would need to say he then split himself into as many Voids as there are dimensions, each Void going into each dimension for whatever reasons [Void's not very smart when born]. He can create duplitates, sure, but they share health & you know that would be 1 crazy, unsubstantiated assumption.)

What even is the current objective of the revision rn, I feel like we got turbo sidetracked

I need to add the following: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Eficiente/SandboxK#Star_Allies_changes

Among other things accepted before in this thread. I asked for help to add those things in profiles, and I'll do so a 3º time.

Also, I just finished making a Magolor blog that will make his profile shorter, which was needed for this thread. However, I also added new stuff here & there, so I would need that evaluated before adding it:

Kirby: Magolor character analysis

vsbattles.fandom.com

Also, the last part of that blog covers something I tried to go over in profiles, occupying took too much space; the top-tiers' use of Absolute Zero cold & resistance to it. In turn, it adds something new, overpowered & dumb, Kirby-style; the top-tiers' use of temperatures high enough to turn off Absolute Zero cold. Don't forget to check that out.

I was going to leave it to the next CRT, but I had to bring it up now as it came along related to the rest of what I was doing.

 

[Eficiente]

Between the pocket spaces Magolor can create, the creatures in it, and the items he can sell, it's going to be a nightmare adding everything he can do with prep time in his profile. I will add skip that unless someone else wants to do it.

On that topic, one of the potions he sells for Doctor Healmore Kirby claims that it makes you fall in love with anyone, and Doctor Healmore has a move where he drinks his potion. Team Kirby should have "Possibly Resistance to Empathic Manip." due to this, possibly because the description may be lying (Some descriptions lie, most don't lie, and most say different levels of insane sh*t).

 

[Eseseso]

I need to add the following: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Eficiente/SandboxK#Star_Allies_changes

Among other things accepted before in this thread. I asked for help to add those things in profiles, and I'll do so a 3º time.

Also, I just finished making a Magolor blog that will make his profile shorter, which was needed for this thread. However, I also added new stuff here & there, so I would need that evaluated before adding it:

Kirby: Magolor character analysis

vsbattles.fandom.com

Looks good

Also, the last part of that blog covers something I tried to go over in profiles, occupying took too much space; the top-tiers' use of Absolute Zero cold & resistance to it. In turn, it adds something new, overpowered & dumb, Kirby-style; the top-tiers' use of temperatures high enough to turn off Absolute Zero cold. Don't forget to check that out.

I was going to leave it to the next CRT, but I had to bring it up now as it came along related to the rest of what I was doing.

Looks okay

 

[Antvasima]

I also think that what I have seen of Eficiente's suggestions here seems fine.

 

[Eficiente]

Should I add that blog?