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Get Backers Q&A!

Firephoenixearl

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So Get Backers is a relatively new verse and it hasn't yet been "laid out", the tiers are a bit wonky, some stuff has to be corrected, and due to this i've seen people having questions related to the GetBackers as a whole or certian characters in vs threads, though since i can't participate or comment in any vs thread i made this. This thread is just to answer any questions ppl may have.

Feel free to ask your question down below regarding anything about the GetBackers verse.

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Lol i got a client xD.

Summary: Well their logic hax is as simple as it gets:

"This can/can't happen because i say so"

Who has it and why: The transcendentials (and even Ban for some reason because why not he's the fam), have a will that's capable of shaping all of reality. This gives them the ability to manipulate the logic of the world (besides millions of other powers it gives).

Explanation: Logic is something nothing can escape from, not even magic. If logic says no then by no means can it ever happen unless it's using a logic of a higher tier. So it's just the ability to put restrictions or to remove them simply because you can change the logic.

What this Logic does is anything but logical xD. Akabane used logic to physically slice appart a completely non existant being. To null immortalities etc.

It can be any power you want, but it's most similar to a baby born from Reality Warping, Law Manipulation, Physics Manipulation and Power Nullification (likely Mathematics Manipulation but we don't know for sure whether they are manipulating the algoritms of reality, the true mechanics were never explained, just what they do and how they work).

Also any higher logic >>>> lower logic. Ban and Akabane possess the highest logic in the verse (i can explain what higher logic and lower logic means aswell if you want).
 
I'd imagine that higher and lower logic means logic from stronger or weaker beings, but sure
 
Idk how ban does it, but it's from where they stand in the Infinty Fortress (composed of Lower Town, Beltline and Babylon City)

Ppl from Babylon city (like akabake) can just own any type of logic in the series.
 
Okay I'm here like you asked,

What makes Divine Design cards unbeatable as you claim? You have a lot of abilities under it but barely any sources to them. Can you start by explaining this higher reality shenanigans?
 
Let me explain.

First of all, Divine Design Cards are not at all unbeatable. They are just cards which grants the user a variety of superpowers. However, one needs to have strong willpower and faith in themselves to use the cards and their effects. You can check it here in the First Discussion Thread where I documented their feats as per the Arc and the chapter number for context in the threads.

The entire Higher Reality shenanigans/statements are nothing but hyperboles and what it does is that it only creates a pocket reality the size of the city most likely. Lucifer, who created the pocket reality for the first time, stated about how they are in a higher reality and shit but in context it only meant that they were in a separate pocket reality. For more info check LordGriffin1000's Blog
 
What Lancer is saying and what has been shown in the revision makes a lot more sense than what Fire has been writing. Did you see the Divine Design card page?


Why does it say they're unbeatable and imply that they can warp reality to the highest degree when in reality, they grant specific unique buffs and status effects via the mechanic of reality warping?
 
What the page means that when a wielder of a Divine Design Card fights a being in the pocket realities, the wielder who has the strongest card is unbeatable in that reality due to the reality law manip of the cards against the enemy in the territory even if the enemy is stronger than the wielder comparatively.

They aren't unbeatable in the literal sense and didn't find the statement in the page that they can warp reality to the highest degree but I'll change the description so that it won't mislead people
 
What's with the part on The Voodoo King's profile where it says "Existence Erasure (Was able to completely annihalate Raitei)"?

Why is the justification for EE "annihilation" (which isn't EE)?
 
Agnaa said:
What's with the part on The Voodoo King's profile where it says "Existence Erasure (Was able to completely annihalate Raitei)"?
Why is the justification for EE "annihilation" (which isn't EE)?
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Well yeah he brought about absolute destruction and annihalated Raitei. As in he ceased to exist. And would only come back if he was needed again. He and Raitei erased each-other out of existence in their clash so yeah.

@Setsuna...welp don't ask me. xD Though he should get resistance to info manip and it's aplications for trashing Der Kaiser. And he should also be a Hojutsu user (logic manip) for beating beltline monsters and possessing 3 stigma.
 
It should probably say "Erased" since "Annihilated" more implies atomization.
 
Agnaa said:
It should probably say "Erased" since "Annihilated" more implies atomization.
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Wot?


Definition of annihilate
1a: to cause to cease to exist :


annihilate



to destroy something completely so that nothing is left:


annihilate

  1. to reduce to utter ruin or nonexistence
 
Oh, looks like I was wrong about that.
 
SenhoraA said:
Hey, Akabane, Ban and King should not win a tier 2C?
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It's at best Low 2-C which i am quite a bit sceptical on, but since 1 admin, 1 content mod and ant approves of the low 2-C tiering am gonna have to include it.
 
So the ginji should not be with tier 2-A, even though he has the power to rewrite the file this was due to access to Babylon city. And in terms of deeds within the ginji universe this is basically at the same level as the Ban midou, King voodoo, Masaki Kurusu and maybe at the akabane level.
 
SenhoraA said:
So the ginji should not be with tier 2-A, even though he has the power to rewrite the file this was due to access to Babylon city. And in terms of deeds within the ginji universe this is basically at the same level as the Ban midou, King voodoo, Masaki Kurusu and maybe at the akabane level.
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Voodoo King and masaki are weaker than Ginji, while Ban and Akabane absolutely stomp him. Ginji got his 2-A key due to popular demand.
 
the one that has tier 2-A is the file as it was decided after a series of discussion, the Ginji only managed to have access to the file after obtaining the keys of the gate of Babylon and thus he had access to the real world, allowing him to control the File (but any other character could ascend to the real world as long as they got the keys to access). So I reaffirm that Akabane, Masaki, Ban, Vudu, Kagami should be well analyzed.
 
Yes he gains control of the file, control no member of the real world had. Which is why he was the last resort of the scientists. So only he can do that, no one else, if the scientists could manipulate the archiver then they wouldn't need to do all that work to implement the reformating program, they could just do it themselves.

Him gaining access to a 2-A system and being capable of controling him makes him 2-A.

Akabane and Ban are otherwise the god tiers of the verse (besides The Witch Queen). They may be getting a low 2-C tier soon, they have 2-A hax via remodeling a 2-A multiverse through their own logic, but they don't have a 2-A key, neither of them can control the archvier.
 
Well, the masaki must be on the same level as the kagami, in other words at the universal level 3-A down 2-C, the voodoo king is considered more powerful than these two so much that they do not dare to face the King, so his level would be low 2-C to 2-C against the Raitei lord of creation.
 
kagami and akabane are avatars created by the real-world originals, so much so that akabane never tried to face him he had to wait for the ban to weaken the kagami and then kill him.
 
Amigodavizinhaça said:
kagami and akabane are avatars created by the real-world originals, so much so that akabane never tried to face him he had to wait for the ban to weaken the kagami and then kill him.
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Not even close. Akabane casually stomps Kagami.
 
I also thought the same since akabane can not be affected by hakai, and in melee combat the beerua would have big problems...
 
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