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I did a similar thread in the past, i propose two versions without the powerlevels scaling or only Kaioken Boosts.
Note 1: The first version was rejected because it abused powerlevels scaling.
2] Without Powerlevels Scaling:
Saiyan Saga:
- Remains the same.
Vegeta Saga:
- Full Power Nappa and Base Goku speed would be Relativistic+ [57,4 SoL], due being twice as fast than Raditz, who easily blitzed both BoZ Goku and Piccolo. Nappa easily kept with the Z-Fighterz that are faster than Raditz while being suppressed.
- Kaioken Goku speed x2 = FTL [1,148 SoL], x3 = FTL [1,722 SoL], x4 = FTL [2,296 SoL]
- A full powered Great Ape Vegeta could be Planet level+ [Over 2,1 Yottatons].
Namek and Ginyu Saga:
- Everything remains the same sans the FTL speed.
- Ginyu remains at least Planet level.
- Goku KKx2 = Great Ape Vegeta and reaches into Large Planet level with Kaiokenx3-10.
- Goku easily blitzed the Ginyu Force, who are faster than Kkx4 Goku, so he should be 6 FTL Sol in base, so his Kaioken states are FTL+.
Frieza Saga:
- Base Frieza remains FTL+, Dwarf Star level [1.7 Tenatons] but becomes twice as fast/strong since his statement and that he made Post Zenkai Vegeta worthless, so Dwarf Star level [3,4 Tenatons], MFTL [106 SoL].
- Third Form is slightly over x1,481, so Dwarf Star level+ [5 Tenatons], MFTL [156,986 SoL].
- Base Goku is much stronger than Third Form Frieza and Post Zenkai Vegeta, so x1.5 = At least Dwarf Star level+ [7,5 Tenatons], MFTL [235,479 SoL].
- Kaiokenx20 brings him at Small Star level [150 Tenatons], MFTL+ [4709,58 SoL] and only bruised Frieza.
- Due to Frieza being half of his power both him and Goku reach Star level.
Android Saga and Onwards:
- Small Star level for the Base Saiyans starts with Base Trunks.
- Large Star level starts with Semi-Perfect Cell. The at least on Large Star level char. could be removed.
- Post Spirit Room Base Trunks and Vegeta remains Small Star level, while Base Goku, Gohan and later Vegeta in the Buu Saga would be Star level.
- Everything else remains the same.
3] Only Kaioken Boosts [Suggested by Kep]:
Speed:
Goku = 0.14c.
KKx4 Goku = 0.56c.
Ginyu Goku = KKx4 Goku = 0.56c.
Ginyu Goku KKx10 = 5.6c.
2nd Form Freeza and Piccolo = 5.6c.
Goku Post-Zenkai = 5.6c.
Goku Post Zenkai Kaiokenx10 and Kaiokenx20 = 56c and 112c.
100% Freeza = Either at least 112c or 224c via him stating he was at half of his speed and strength.
AP [My version]:
Goku = 69,69 Zettatons.
Kkx4 Goku = 278 Zettatons.
Ginyu Goku = 278 Zettatons.
Ginyu Goku KKx10 = 2,780 Yottatons.
First Form Frieza = 1.7 Tenatons.
Second Form Frieza = 3,4 Tenatons.
Third Form = 5 Tenatons.
Base Goku = 7,5 Tenatons.
Kkx20 Goku = 150 Tenatons.
100% Frieza = 300 Tenatons.
Android 18 = 600 Tenatons.
Semi-Perfect Cell = 1200 Tenatons.
Users can chose the version that is more fitting.
Note 2: This could be highlighted. I'm personally neutral on the outcome. This is manga continuity, but if this is accepted i will make also revisions to the Anime Toei characters based on this.
Note 1: The first version was rejected because it abused powerlevels scaling.
2] Without Powerlevels Scaling:
Saiyan Saga:
- Remains the same.
Vegeta Saga:
- Full Power Nappa and Base Goku speed would be Relativistic+ [57,4 SoL], due being twice as fast than Raditz, who easily blitzed both BoZ Goku and Piccolo. Nappa easily kept with the Z-Fighterz that are faster than Raditz while being suppressed.
- Kaioken Goku speed x2 = FTL [1,148 SoL], x3 = FTL [1,722 SoL], x4 = FTL [2,296 SoL]
- A full powered Great Ape Vegeta could be Planet level+ [Over 2,1 Yottatons].
Namek and Ginyu Saga:
- Everything remains the same sans the FTL speed.
- Ginyu remains at least Planet level.
- Goku KKx2 = Great Ape Vegeta and reaches into Large Planet level with Kaiokenx3-10.
- Goku easily blitzed the Ginyu Force, who are faster than Kkx4 Goku, so he should be 6 FTL Sol in base, so his Kaioken states are FTL+.
Frieza Saga:
- Base Frieza remains FTL+, Dwarf Star level [1.7 Tenatons] but becomes twice as fast/strong since his statement and that he made Post Zenkai Vegeta worthless, so Dwarf Star level [3,4 Tenatons], MFTL [106 SoL].
- Third Form is slightly over x1,481, so Dwarf Star level+ [5 Tenatons], MFTL [156,986 SoL].
- Base Goku is much stronger than Third Form Frieza and Post Zenkai Vegeta, so x1.5 = At least Dwarf Star level+ [7,5 Tenatons], MFTL [235,479 SoL].
- Kaiokenx20 brings him at Small Star level [150 Tenatons], MFTL+ [4709,58 SoL] and only bruised Frieza.
- Due to Frieza being half of his power both him and Goku reach Star level.
Android Saga and Onwards:
- Small Star level for the Base Saiyans starts with Base Trunks.
- Large Star level starts with Semi-Perfect Cell. The at least on Large Star level char. could be removed.
- Post Spirit Room Base Trunks and Vegeta remains Small Star level, while Base Goku, Gohan and later Vegeta in the Buu Saga would be Star level.
- Everything else remains the same.
3] Only Kaioken Boosts [Suggested by Kep]:
Speed:
Goku = 0.14c.
KKx4 Goku = 0.56c.
Ginyu Goku = KKx4 Goku = 0.56c.
Ginyu Goku KKx10 = 5.6c.
2nd Form Freeza and Piccolo = 5.6c.
Goku Post-Zenkai = 5.6c.
Goku Post Zenkai Kaiokenx10 and Kaiokenx20 = 56c and 112c.
100% Freeza = Either at least 112c or 224c via him stating he was at half of his speed and strength.
AP [My version]:
Goku = 69,69 Zettatons.
Kkx4 Goku = 278 Zettatons.
Ginyu Goku = 278 Zettatons.
Ginyu Goku KKx10 = 2,780 Yottatons.
First Form Frieza = 1.7 Tenatons.
Second Form Frieza = 3,4 Tenatons.
Third Form = 5 Tenatons.
Base Goku = 7,5 Tenatons.
Kkx20 Goku = 150 Tenatons.
100% Frieza = 300 Tenatons.
Android 18 = 600 Tenatons.
Semi-Perfect Cell = 1200 Tenatons.
Users can chose the version that is more fitting.
Note 2: This could be highlighted. I'm personally neutral on the outcome. This is manga continuity, but if this is accepted i will make also revisions to the Anime Toei characters based on this.
