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So in Silverio, there's a thing called "Holy War"

Not going to details about it but it is about two Slaves of Light, Kagutsuchi and Christopher whom Takahama wrote a battle if Zephyr Coleraine didn't interfere between the two

First of all, as Slaves of Light, they have an infinite rise in power.

This is mainly seen in canon where Kagutsuchi goes from destroying complete islands to reaching solar system busting level.

The japanede quote basically describe their fight, which both of them does not surrender and keep on fighting, rising in their power infinitely.

They go from country level attacks to reaching solar system to finally destroying current universe and recreating it with new laws.

Christopher also awakens Sphere like Helios. But due to his nature as a human and not Asterism given an ego, he focuses on causality destruction moreso than Helios

TL;DR

Kagutsuchi and Christopher gets a rating like this: "Country level at start, Universe level at end"
 
I suppose that this seems to make sense, but we need more community input, and I am not able to update the pages myself.

You can ask Sera Loveheart and ALRF to verify the translation, and also ask some other staff members to comment here. Just avoid Kavpeny, Azathoth, Ryukama, DarkLK, DontTalkDT, Matthew and Promestein, as they are either inactive (Kavpeny), specialised in specific areas or asked frequently about other issues.
 
You should also ask the following staff member to give input here: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:TISSG7Redgrave
 
I agree with this,btw Uroboros,should Christopher get more abilities? And does Chitose country stuff legit?

EDIT: Already invite Sora-san (Sera) and ALFYN (ALRF) to come here.
 
Was told that this was something that used to be included in the page in the past but was removed coz it was a detailed hypothetical scenario given by the author rather than being an actual content within the game
 
it was smth of a hypothetical scenario so yes we didn't give the 4-A rating to scale to kagutsuchi. But given the context alrfy mentioned once that chirstopher is a slave of light and given what alrfy said about how they work then this could be fine really. Iirc Alrfy also mentioned that christopher could scale to helios and has his powers but is more on causality destruction instead of immortality BS. I'll see what Alrfy would say but this seems fine afaik
 
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kagutsuchi_(Silverio_Vendetta)?diff=1130741&oldid=1130694

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kagutsuchi_(Silverio_Vendetta)?diff=1179791&oldid=1170979

Thread where this was discussed

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/689583

Unless antvasima being forgetful is reason enough for this to be valid, i don't see how this can be accepted. Dunno what the hell even is this series so most of what i say after this is mostly paraphrasing or copy pasting someone else words

Only ***** that get so stay is the light attribute and those two headasses' guts, because it's in the game. Everything else (universe getting busted, Chris having Sphere similar to Helios, Chris abilities scaling to Helios, etc) are going into the trash can unless the site/Ant wants to be incosistent
 
Hell even in the cited source it says this

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Which imply that this holy war something didn't actually happened. Just that if it happened then some ***** will follow as the consequences which is explained by this takahama dude
 
Well, if this has been rejected in previous discussions, we obviously cannot accept it.
 
So should we proceed here, in lack of better options?

Also, can you provide a reminder summary?
 
What we got here:

-Infinite power rise for Slave of Light

-"Country Level first to Universe Level at the end" for Kagutsuchi and Christopher

That's all. Red can summarising it better than me,so better wait for him, also Silverio-verse need to be revised as i see.
 
I doubt it'll change anything considering this has been rejected before coz it's not compliant to the site's rule on citation and there weren't any change in it as far as i'm concerned that would let this pass
 
And just like i said literally a post above yours that it's doubtful for a change to even happen considering this has been blatantly rejected before coz this doesn't comply to the site's rule. If you want to use this as an actual argument then try somewhere else
 
Have you actually read the thread? I suggest you to do just that

And i've already said that twice so i won't rly bother saying it again for the 3rd time
 
Yes i have,and none of it's concluded,you just throw "it's rejected before" but no one listening you.

Just sit and wait for more input.
 
One thing. This has been rejected by that antvasima dude for a blatant rule breaking about citation which was discussed here

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/689583

To which antvasima also ******* listen and voiced his opinion literally 2 post below my post where that thread was linked here the first time, so you can go to the garbage bin with your "no one listened" bullcrap

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2108942#9

And two. Even in the same ******* cited source in the op it blatantly says that this is just a hypothetical event which mean this doesn't even happened in the story. Where i've also said here, in case you've "read" the thread but somehow miss it

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2108942#8

So yeah i'd suggest you to actually read the thread again. Properly this time

And here are some pastas from an ex-user that supposedly actually know the series that even your alrf dude (who ultimately never actually came here) would listen with almost no objection that were given to me in case some headasses still wanna try to push this through

It contradict what was shown within series. Because neither ever reached their peak within canon. Holy War was not smth that actually happened within canon, it's p much the author's fanfic.
As i said through Phantom. Only ***** that can be added is just the light attribute as it's smth that actually shown within the work. And at most Takahama's WoG outside the game would just give more details on it and how it works and what benefit it gave any given char, but the max limit shown (universe level) for it cannot be applied as it's not smth that canonically happened within the game.
Unless there's a new Silverio game wherein Kagu or Chris or any other hero for that matter that possesses the attribute of light show the same level of performance as advertised within Takahama's Holy War WoG. Hypothesis stays as hypothesis.

I can as easily ask for universal busting Chris/Kagutsuchi evidences. But you cannot give any because there aren't actually any in the game, in Vendetta at least, and if there was one then it wouldn't really end up being applicable to either Chris or Kagutsuchi coz it's not them doing it. Only some part of that WoG have solid ground as smth that can be added as per VSB's standard. The limit of light attribute boost (or with another wording, how far it can boost you) isn't one of it
This Holy War is p much
"You got this XYZ game where A happened. And coz A happened, B and C followed as the consequences. But lol here's some hypothesis wherein A didn't happen coz some other ***** happened therefore what would happened was J, and what would follow were K and L"

If you want to use this as an argument, VSB is not the place. Do notify me though if Ant have actually gone senile and accept the exact same thing he rejected for no reason other than he forgot that he rejected it. Would be funny to watch
 
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